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Old 01-29-2008, 10:00 AM
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Which still begs the question: why? She has had more than two years to get used to being there and working there and doing it and she still doesn't feel comfortable? If that's the case, she'd better do some soulsearching quick smart. That's what the rest of your life is going to be like girl! Get used to it or get out of the fire!

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And I agree with you: why is she still there. If you want to become a princess you must adapt to any situation, you like it or not. She should be aware of that two years after. There are thousands of people who do a job they don't like and for a pitiful pay every day. She should consider herself extremely lucky and make an effort to take the resposibility that being a princess requires. She's an athlete after all...
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:02 PM
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But, one thing you fail to consider, Charlene is not a princess of Monaco. She is simply Albert's companion. And btw, I've seen princes and princesses hardly smiling at public events and even frowning, yelling and screaming at photographers. Are you telling me that scowling at public events is reserved for royalty?
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:42 AM
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Well, I just think that wearing a bored face at an official event, or even when you are among your partner's friends is a bit unrespectul, no matter if you are a royal or not. JMO
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Well, I just think that wearing a bored face at an official event, or even when you are among your partner's friends is a bit unrespectul, no matter if you are a royal or not. JMO
Very disrespectful and if you don't feel up to smiling for whatever reason then stay home.
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:01 PM
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Very disrespectful and if you don't feel up to smiling for whatever reason then stay home.
So does that mean that Charlotte and Tatiana should stay home most of the time instead of sporting a pout at public events or is your comment just reserved for Charlene.
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So does that mean that Charlotte and Tatiana should stay home most of the time instead of sporting a pout at public events or is your comment just reserved for Charlene.
No, that isn't restricted to Charlene. The more I see and hear the more I don't like her and I was all for this relationship to start with if it made him happy.
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Old 01-31-2008, 10:57 AM
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No, that isn't restricted to Charlene. The more I see and hear the more I don't like her and I was all for this relationship to start with if it made him happy.
I agree with you: at first I was a "possibilist", so to speak. I thought she would have learned how to behave at public events. But from the last birthday pictures, there's something in her that sounds sort of fake to me...
Tatiana and Charlotte are still young, and at that age many tend to look peevish, as if they were at war with the rest of the world.
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I agree with you: at first I was a "possibilist", so to speak. I thought she would have learned how to behave at public events. But from the last birthday pictures, there's something in her that sounds sort of fake to me...
Tatiana and Charlotte are still young, and at that age many tend to look peevish, as if they were at war with the rest of the world.
Thanks I was agreeing with your post before mine. When you are giving your bf dirty looks or pouting behind his back and they are caught on tape there is definitely a problem as allowing your gf to stick around in the public eye after insulting a Prime Minister. Then this its against Royal Protocol for her to talk to the press when a magazine shoots a photo layout, but come to find out she is the mouth piece behind all the Bunte articles of their great love, I'm doing this and that. I don't know where the relationship is going because he hasn't said. After two years my advice to you honey is if he hasn't said "I love you" and he wants to commit throw him out of bed, pack your things and go back to SA. If he is in love with you he'll come running and beg you to come back. If he doesn't then he didn't. And don't listen to a messenger either it has to come directly from him or he is still playing you.

Let me add the problem with Albert in relationships is woman are to easy to let him bed them and scared of loosing him they put up with the bull of other woman. He needs one he has actually fallen madly in love with and her show him she won't put up with it before he will ever change.
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:34 PM
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Thanks I was agreeing with your post before mine. When you are giving your bf dirty looks or pouting behind his back and they are caught on tape there is definitely a problem as allowing your gf to stick around in the public eye after insulting a Prime Minister. Then this its against Royal Protocol for her to talk to the press when a magazine shoots a photo layout, but come to find out she is the mouth piece behind all the Bunte articles of their great love, I'm doing this and that. I don't know where the relationship is going because he hasn't said. After two years my advice to you honey is if he hasn't said "I love you" and he wants to commit throw him out of bed, pack your things and go back to SA. If he is in love with you he'll come running and beg you to come back. If he doesn't then he didn't. And don't listen to a messenger either it has to come directly from him or he is still playing you.

Let me add the problem with Albert in relationships is woman are to easy to let him bed them and scared of loosing him they put up with the bull of other woman. He needs one he has actually fallen madly in love with and her show him she won't put up with it before he will ever change.



I'm just trying to see what you folks are seeing. I just saw the gallery of birthday pics on the current events thread. And OMG I have never seen such displays of fun, fun, happy people, big cake, a very sweet hug to hug, a most prominent sweet sweet gallant hand kiss by the Prince. Its as if HE was really doing a "I"ll show you people how gallant and wonderful and proud (?) I am of this lovely woman. ??

I guess I don't know him at all, just for three years now but my lord. Re what you people think about her pouty looks is perhaps real-perhaps she, although as you say above--she is uncomfortable not having a public commitment.

So on to the March birthday and to a put your commited lips where your showiness is. We shall see.
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:42 PM
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And the real truth is that since we haven't seen a word of this relationship--maybe they have a private understanding or intent between them.

And my thinking then if he likes a certain imo gutsy, adventurous, outgoing or whatever brings him happiness then--that's who he'll pick, and imo ,should now and whenever. He is in charge of his own happiness. And I think these people who have known him forever, his parents, etc--just might not know this prince deep inside. Just my thoughts on the matter.

But I should think whatever he desires, that it might be prudent to 'get cuttin'.
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I'm just trying to see what you folks are seeing. I just saw the gallery of birthday pics on the current events thread. And OMG I have never seen such displays of fun, fun, happy people, big cake, a very sweet hug to hug, a most prominent sweet sweet gallant hand kiss by the Prince. Its as if HE was really doing a "I"ll show you people how gallant and wonderful and proud (?) I am of this lovely woman. ??

I guess I don't know him at all, just for three years now but my lord. Re what you people think about her pouty looks is perhaps real-perhaps she, although as you say above--she is uncomfortable not having a public commitment.

So on to the March birthday and to a put your commited lips where your showiness is. We shall see.
It took me a while to see what others did but I always wasn't voicing what I was picking up until now. I'll say it, it looks more like a couple who have had to much to drink.

I have always been a supporter of Albert and liked him very much, etc., however, I'm sorry to say this is how he acted with woman before Charlene only it was rare that any photo's showed up. When Rainier was alive he had to stay within the boundaries to keep him off his back. I've been told many inside stories about Albert and etc. that I wouldn't repeat even in a private messages what we are seeing now is normal.
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Old 01-31-2008, 05:59 PM
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There is an Olga101 post that does not show on the front page. One was not acceptable and got the boot-but the above one I think is lovely???
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What is she suppose to do? She is Albert's friend - to behave like a princess would be very presumptious of her. I think she is carrying out her girlfriend role very well. To be any more "official" would probably look very arrogant. She may very well be the person Albert will marry. She is blond, tall and does not appear to be too independent. She will produce goodlooking children following in grandma Grace's steps. She does not have her own titles or money or influencial friends or family so she will not be able to throw her weight around. Should be perfect for Albert.
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What is she suppose to do? She is Albert's friend - to behave like a princess would be very presumptious of her. I think she is carrying out her girlfriend role very well. To be any more "official" would probably look very arrogant. She may very well be the person Albert will marry. She is blond, tall and does not appear to be too independent. She will produce goodlooking children following in grandma Grace's steps. She does not have her own titles or money or influencial friends or family so she will not be able to throw her weight around. Should be perfect for Albert.
it doesn not mean because she is tall, and blonde that all there kids are going to look like the world best, not all kids carry their parent look gene, have you seeing albert other kids the look pretty good, only time will tell what hers will look like, but i will not bet on look yet?
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Old 01-31-2008, 07:45 PM
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She does have family they are in SA. But everybody keep saying she THE ONE but no commit. She need that independant for Monaco. Will she accept Albert other children as her own if she and Albert have children.
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Reading this thread I was struck by how much the past resembles the present. Wasn't Rainier involved with an 'unsuitable' woman for a long time before he 'did his duty' and married Grace?
There was also a lot of snarking when Grace and Rainier married, and there was a lot of whispers that she was not good enough to be a Princess of Monaco. I don't think that any woman Prince Albert picks out will be good enough. Tradition is a hard habit to break. :)

I don't think that Albert means to marry. I think he's had it in his mind that Andrea will succeed him, and I think that he and Caroline might have an agreement that if Albert dies before she does, that she will step aside for her son.
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What is she suppose to do? She is Albert's friend - to behave like a princess would be very presumptious of her. I think she is carrying out her girlfriend role very well. To be any more "official" would probably look very arrogant. She may very well be the person Albert will marry. She is blond, tall and does not appear to be too independent. She will produce goodlooking children following in grandma Grace's steps. She does not have her own titles or money or influencial friends or family so she will not be able to throw her weight around. Should be perfect for Albert.
Sorry, and this is my own personal opinion so don't shoot me and don't take it as critiscism directed at you as a person, but what would she have to do to be any more "official"? She is as official as she can get, bar having the ring and the title. IMO, if they got married tomorrow, she'd get the ring and the title and absolutely no one would notice the difference. They would still be joined at the hip, she would still get the flowers, the front pages, the same treatment, the bowing lackeys, the people sucking up to her, the interviews with the tabloids, the seat next to Albert, the encounters with celebs and royals, you name it. If, and again IMO, if she was carrying out the girlfriend role very well, she'd stay out of the media and out of the public eye. Then she would be playing her role very well. Now she looks, IMO, like an attention seeker.

So again my question to you: what would she have to do to be any more official than she already is and how would we notice the difference?
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Reading this thread I was struck by how much the past resembles the present. Wasn't Rainier involved with an 'unsuitable' woman for a long time before he 'did his duty' and married Grace?
There was also a lot of snarking when Grace and Rainier married, and there was a lot of whispers that she was not good enough to be a Princess of Monaco. I don't think that any woman Prince Albert picks out will be good enough. Tradition is a hard habit to break. :)
Yes, but Rainier was twenty years younger than Albert is now. The way it is now, the question of a regent becomes a real reality. Life expectancy for a European male is somewhere in the late seventies, I believe. So considering that Albert isn't married yet and that his son might not be the first-born, but maybe second- or third-born, when Albert dies, his son might be barely old enough to be allowed to reign. And at 21, I would expect the son to be studying, not ruling. What would you think of a 21 year old sovereign who hasn't even finished his studies, is just old enough to be allowed to vote and hasn't had much life experience yet? And this is the favourable scenario, what if the son is underage and not allowed to govern? This is not so extremely unlikely as it might look at first glance....

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Although I see a lot of this couple in all these german magazines (first of all BUNTE with their sugary articles) I usually don't post in their threads. I do not really have an opionion of Charlene but I have to say that those two really do annoy me, especially Albert. I am sure other posters have said it a million times before me but here we go: he's almost 50 but comes across as incredibly immature and what kind of attitude is this to keep up this strange status for Charlene for months now: girlfriend? yes? no? but she does attend events with the family therefore is she more? financee? yes? no? What kind of image does a head of state or whatever Albert's title is send out who isn't even able to make a committment in his private life at the age of 50? Sorry but for me this only adds up to the cheap and somehow second class royal image that I have of Monaco. Rainier was kind of clever and on top of things but unfortunately his all his offsprings do not have this kind of class. Even if Albert would finally decide that Charlene is the one there would remain kind of a strange aftertaste as if he chose her because he did not find another woman who looked nice and would sacrifice her life to live with such a moron.
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I agree Duke.
I think the image Albert is giving to the world right now is pathetic. He wants to show everyone hes in love when he has kept his relationships secret throughout his life. Now at 50 it is seems as his pretending, the last cover of Hola was just ridiculous for a head of state.
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