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Old 05-30-2007, 05:31 PM
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I see your points Laura Elizabeth especially on the suggestions to have already turned up at pools etc &assisted the elderly. Thse would have been excellent opportunities to give back something.You have echoed my sentiments more articultely than I.But I cannot agree that at at thirty[30] a woman needs to polish her style if she has not developed one yet.CW comes from an affluent backround& they want for nothing so why the awkwardness?I do not blame PA on this.I put the responsibility of CW's presentation fiascos& lack of potential consideration for others on the identical individuals who race to Bunte & other tabloids to give interviews.Strange they know the whereabouts of these periodicals yet seemingly perhaps care solely about the objective, the aim. Perhaps there is one focus;one aim here to attain, to achieve the goal: Princess.It appears blatant and somewhat embarrassing by how overt it is[if that is indeed the case].And that is the negativity here and not the criticism regardless of who is to blame.
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I don't compare her to Princess Grace.

Unlike others here I thought Charlene's presentation throughout the Grand Prix was dreadful. Someone needs to help her - and frankly I blame Albert that she's still awkward and, well... I don't know what. By now someone should have helped her develop her own style and presence - if for no other reason so that she doesn't embarrass herself in public. I'll grant this years photos are yards better than last years, but she's still got miles to go. If she really mattered to him, he'd help her. And it annoys me that he doesn't - at least it looks that way to me.

But the other problems I have with Charlene, her lack of education, lack of a job, living at the expense of others (her father or Albert or someone... she doesn't work.), apparently still not speaking French... this sham of "training" for the Olympics... She does nothing to indicate that she cares a fig for Monaco or his people. Maybe she does and we're not seeing it, but I think if she showed up at the pools to help kids swim, at the creche, at the old folks home, a church bring-and-buy, there'd be photographic evidence of it - and we have none. We do have pictures of Albert walking her to the doctor, of his trainer (who gives every appearence of being her babysitter) walking her around Monaco, driving her around in her new Audi, so if she was doing anything for Monaco we'd have pictures of that too. But we don't. Nothing.

She needs to get a real job and make some attempt at showing she cares about Monaco as much as she cares about partying to earn my respect. Until then I'll probably remain highly critical of both of them. At his age, with his experience, he should be able to conduct a relationship with more class, decorum and grace.
Forgive me for contradicting, but why would Charlene do anything for Monaco (now at least)? As far as I know, none of the current Crown Princesses did anything for their respective countries prior to their engagements/weddings.

I'm not defending Charlene - I know nothing about her, she's not the type of beauty I like (though she is pretty, imo), most of the times I don't find her dress sence attractive either.

However, I'm all willing to give her chance (if Prince Albert will eventually decide to marry her, that is).
I see absolutely no point in compring her to Princess Grace - there has never been and will never be another Grace. But who knows - maybe Charlene could become quite an asset to Monaco (again, given she will become Princess of Monaco)? We could have hardly imagine what any of the Current Princesses will be like prior to their marriages.

This is all only my opinion. I certianly respect the opinions of the rest of you people.
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FROM ITALiAn ON LInE MAGAZINE ALEXIS

from alexis.it concerning CHARLNE TRIP TO ROME, and photos on Novella200 gossip magazines..

"Bye Bye di Charlene Wittstock a Max Rosolino. Tra loro c’è stato un approccio quasi sentimentale, poi però è arrivato Alberto di Monaco e tutto è finito tra Charlene & Max. “Ora siamo molto amici”, dice l’Azzurro Rosolino. Ma i gossip velenosi circolano tra Roma e Montecarlo. Si conoscono da tanto tempo, si allenavano insieme in Australia (per smorzare le chiacchiere dovette intervenire ancheRoberta Capua).

They told that Charlene had an "Half love affair" ( so, not serious raletionship!) with max, but when she meet Albert she got crazy for him.

It seams that on Novella 2000 interview Max says "NOW, we are very good friends".
But there are some hot gossips between Room and Montecarlo.
They (charlene and max) are long time friend because they spent a lot of time training in the same pool in Australia.
It seems also that, at that time, the Italian Show Girl Roberta Capua, girlfriend of Rosolino (They had a love affair from 2003 until 2006), gave an interview in order to stop rumors about love story between Charlene and max.

Can Anyone post the interview that max gave to Novella2000? I'm Curious to see if he ammited that , he had a love story with Charlene.

I Live in Milan, and as I'm a Swimmer (not professional), I always followed Max Rosolino but It's the first time I heard about a relationship with Charlene.

Concerning Charlene. I don't like her way to manage this relationship, I think that sometimes she looks cheap and polish.

Maybe she is a very nice person, but she is not "princess to be" material.

but I have to say that I compared charlene photos and outfits from last year until today, and I think that she is working on her image.
Maybe she is trying to find her own style...

Charlene will never have the style and the class of Grace Kelly. Charlene is not Grace kelly ( No woman in the world can survive if compared with Grace!!!)

May I ask to moderators if we can open a Charlene Wittstock Fashion Tread? So we can compare photos from last year until now, and see how she is improving her style?

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Old 05-31-2007, 06:43 AM
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Half love affair, is that like a little pregnant?

Anyways from those pics it was pretty obvious that it wasn't just a buddy- buddy friendship. There was more emotion and complicity in those pics then I have seen in any pics of her with Albert. When you consider that shortly after the Turin pics she was talking about Albert being her soulmate and then you compare the Rome pics with all the others, then you wouldn't have guessed that she was talking about ALbert.

Thanks for the info Michelle.
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:56 AM
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Re: PACA

Ciao Paca,

Half love affair, is that like a little pregnant?

Half love affair is the translation of Italian Slang ... "Mezza Storia" ... that young people (ex. my nephew) use in order to describe a love story that is not important..

I Know, it's strange...
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So that would be a short fling or sth to the likes. A relationship that basically excludes all deeper emotions except lust Thanks for clearing that up Michelle.

Just to make sure that my post doesn't get misunderstood by other posters. I didn't interpret it as in Charlene was pregnant from Max or anyone else for that matter (at least I hope not), just playing on the expression that some young women use: I think I might be a little pregnant...
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that's right Paca!
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:24 AM
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"Tra loro c’è stato un approccio quasi sentimentale, poi però è arrivato Alberto di Monaco e tutto è finito tra Charlene & Max"

So MAX is the guy she was dating when Albert came along, this has been a piece of info that circulated right after turin. When i look at the two men I see them at two different extremes. How can a woman be genuinely attracted by MAX, which she surely was and obviously still is, and then make such a radical change and turn towards an old guy like albert. I think it is very clear why she dumped one and chose the other. This girl doesn't stay true to herself. How can someone have any respect for someone who sells herself this way? If albert will ever marry her, and give her the material stability which appears to be very important to her, there is no doubt she'll turn around and finally look for love with a man her age, and good looking, who will make her happy.
Albert should come to the realization that at this point in his life all the young women who are interested in him may have other reasons than love, and affection. The good old days are gone .
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:01 AM
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Can Anyone post the interview that max gave to Novella2000? I'm Curious to see if he ammited that , he had a love story with Charlene.
Honestly this is the very first time I read that they were sweeton each other. In the Rome pics they looked to be very close, but this doesn't necessarily mean that you have an affair with any guy/girl you feel comfortable with.
I didn't read the Novella article, but I read something about it on the Fans Club di Rosolino e Titova! website, where the poster who'd read the interview wrote he says they are just long time friends, but no love story mentioned.

Anyway how could he think of dumping a gorgeous, elegant, classy lady like Roberta Capua is (she was elected Miss Italy) for a colourless person such as Charlene is (I have nothing against her, I am just wondering...). However I can't help wondering how could an intelligent lady such as Roberta is live with Max. When you want to keep a date secret, you don't take her, although along with other friends, to dine out in Rome, that's the "realm of the razzis" since the times of Linda Christian and Tyrone Power.
Any Italian celebrities wouldn't wander around Rome, Milan - or Sardinia and the Adriatic coast in the summer- with their dates, if they don't really want to get photographed.

BTW, as for the Alexis website, well, they also wrote some not so flattering things about Rainier, Grace and Steph either... I would take it with a grain of salt. JMO, of course.
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Old 05-31-2007, 10:49 AM
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Half love affair, is that like a little pregnant?

Anyways from those pics it was pretty obvious that it wasn't just a buddy- buddy friendship. There was more emotion and complicity in those pics then I have seen in any pics of her with Albert. When you consider that shortly after the Turin pics she was talking about Albert being her soulmate and then you compare the Rome pics with all the others, then you wouldn't have guessed that she was talking about ALbert.

Thanks for the info Michelle.
Good one Paca I agree totally. She showed much more loving emotion in the Rome pictures than with Albert. Perhaps it was an attempt to make him jealous. I don't see that happening.
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Half love affair, is that like a little pregnant?

Anyways from those pics it was pretty obvious that it wasn't just a buddy- buddy friendship. There was more emotion and complicity in those pics then I have seen in any pics of her with Albert. When you consider that shortly after the Turin pics she was talking about Albert being her soulmate and then you compare the Rome pics with all the others, then you wouldn't have guessed that she was talking about ALbert.

Thanks for the info Michelle.
Yes Thanks Michelle and Yes paca you are right- much more affection there then any I have seen between Albert and Charlene!
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:06 PM
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Please LadyMac don't compare Charlene to Princess Diana. Diana was 19/20 years old girl when she stepped into limelight, and that was in the 80's. The worse era when it comes to clothing! Charlene is 30 years old woman who's been supposedly with "Prince" for a few years now and didn't learn much yet.
I guess some people on the board are starting to believe that she might end up marrying PA so they are trying to convince themselves that she is OK for the "Princess" role, so they can ohhh and ahhh later on.
I don't think so!
RoyalP. Donna Paca.... I agree with your posts... but we know that a lot of people prefer to say aaahhhh, oooohhh and dream... that's the reason why tabloids are making money and that's the reason why some topics about politics or real life in Monaco are not visited... BUT the show is going on in Monaco because people in Monaco are hardly working
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Most people are knocking the clothes she wears and it appears she is trying.
She may or she may not, I don't know. But no matter what, decency and protocol still are valid. Like being or having been a lingerie model or a porn model, is generally enough to disqualify you from ever becoming a princess. I won't mention the sickening Maldives photos as they were supposed to be "private", but for someone dating a prince, I stil think she has a poor and unappropriate, at best an unfortunate, choice of clothes. Having said that, I do have to admit that she fits right in with her future inlaws and allegedly with most of monegasque high society.
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Perhaps your's and others expectations are to high of what was and what is. No one can be Princess Grace she stood on her own. That was part of Rainier's problem with woman Albert dated they weren't meeting up to his standard which was Grace. In the end when Albert decides to marry I don't think he will care what others think of his choice just that he loves her. It's his life and he knows how he feels and what makes him happy.
Then I hope that she makes him very happy off-camera, because on-camera they both look like as happy as a balloon in a needle factory.

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Albert blames his not being married on the paparazzi, who, he claims, have unsettled his various girlfriends, especially the American swimmer Mary Wayte, a Sharon Stone-lookalike who won a gold medal the l984 Olympics. Albert was crazy about her, he says, and evidently she felt the same way about him, but “she was one of the ones who got scared.” That his bride would inevitably be compared to Grace makes this not an easy family to come into.
Easy, blame it on the media. Other people survive.
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She may or she may not, I don't know. But no matter what, decency and protocol still are valid. Like being or having been a lingerie model or a porn model, is generally enough to disqualify you from ever becoming a princess. I won't mention the sickening Maldives photos as they were supposed to be "private", but for someone dating a prince, I stil think she has a poor and unappropriate, at best an unfortunate, choice of clothes. Having said that, I do have to admit that she fits right in with her future inlaws and allegedly with most of monegasque high society.
Then I hope that she makes him very happy off-camera, because on-camera they both look like as happy as a balloon in a needle factory.

Easy, blame it on the media. Other people survive.
Especially Olympic athletes who win gold medals as they have proven they can take the pressure. What is the saying if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Dealing with the press is now part of an Olympic athletes training. Now all are successful at dealing with the press but they surely can take the pressure of it. It's not as bad as putting everything you worked for in your life down to a 2 min event. JMO
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Especially Olympic athletes who win gold medals as they have proven they can take the pressure. What is the saying if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Dealing with the press is now part of an Olympic athletes training. Now all are successful at dealing with the press but they surely can take the pressure of it. It's not as bad as putting everything you worked for in your life down to a 2 min event. JMO
You know, that's actually a very valid point. I don't know if you are talking about CW or Mary Wayte, but it goes for the both of them. And considering that I've never seen Albert dating a non-celeb (with the exception of TR and NC - and he certainly didn't want to marry either of them!) I am now wondering about the "one of the ones who got scared". Ones, as in plural. Most would be very used to the attention and media so why would they got scared so much? Charlene seems to thrive on it. Less certain whether she handles it well or not, but she uses it in a big way.
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Personally I do not care if Albert marries or not, and I'm not trying to defend Charlene since she's neither my sister nor my cousin (a little more Italian slang).

I was just commenting how silly Rosolino acted by going around Rome with a lady who - he perfectly knew - is the "official companion" of the ruling Prince of Monaco, who - he still knew - is chased by the razzis wherever she goes. Rome is full of paparazzis in search of celebrities (remember Andrea hitting one of them in Rome last year?). If Max wanted to keep their date secret, then he should have taken her to dine out elsewhere, as there's plently of little pictoresque villages in the surroundings of Rome, where the restaurant staff would have hardly recognized this lady. Besides - you may not know Italian mags, but Lady Michelle does, so she has to agree - the razzis would have followed them as far as the hotel where they would have had stayed, if they really did. That's how Christopher Lambert and Alba Parietti's love story came into the limelight.

Not long ago, I happened to read in a mag that before meeting Prince Albert, Charlene had had three boyfriends: the first one she was shacking up with was a fellow South African swimmer, the second one was another swimmer whose natinality I don't recall, but had he been Rosolino, the author would have surely mentioned him, don't you think so? And the last one must have been a journalist if I'm correct.

Finally if Max really wanted to dump Roberta Capua for Charlene, then he must be crazy indeed!!!

Roberta Capua ex Miss Italy, who come second in the Miss World beauty contest.
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Personally I do not care if Albert marries or not, and I'm not trying to defend Charlene since she's neither my sister nor my cousin (a little more Italian slang).

I was just commenting how silly Rosolino acted by going around Rome with a lady who - he perfectly knew - is the "official companion" of the ruling Prince of Monaco, who - he still knew - is chased by the razzis wherever she goes. Rome is full of paparazzis in search of celebrities (remember Andrea hitting one of them in Rome last year?). If Max wanted to keep their date secret, then he should have taken her to dine out elsewhere, as there's plently of little pictoresque villages in the surroundings of Rome, where the restaurant staff would have hardly recognized this lady. Besides - you may not know Italian mags, but Lady Michelle does, so she has to agree - the razzis would have followed them as far as the hotel where they would have had stayed, if they really did. That's how Christopher Lambert and Alba Parietti's love story came into the limelight.

Not long ago, I happened to read in a mag that before meeting Prince Albert, Charlene had had three boyfriends: the first one she was shacking up with was a fellow South African swimmer, the second one was another swimmer whose natinality I don't recall, but had he been Rosolino, the author would have surely mentioned him, don't you think so? And the last one must have been a journalist if I'm correct.

Finally if Max really wanted to dump Roberta Capua for Charlene, then he must be crazy indeed!!!

Roberta Capua ex Miss Italy, who come second in the Miss World beauty contest.
Well what a way to build one's ego Miss Italy and the known companion of a head of state. That was what he was thinking. As to Charlene well I suppose she wasn't thinking on one hand but knowing how much she likes the press, what a great way to get under Albert's male ego skin than to be photographed with a "close" friend looking very cozy indeed. One can only guess about the photos but I don't think Charlene did herself any favors with those photographs. JMO
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Our friends forgot to add this few lines that appear at the foot of the article from alexis.it she posted:

Invece, Rosolino ha progetti matrimoniali con la danzatrice russa Natalia Titova (Instead, Rosolino is planning to marry Russian dancer Natalia Titova)

However this website is the one that reads Charlotte went to the Annabel's fashion show in London in order to meet Prince William (this article is from last week). As far as we know she met Alex Dellal instead...
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Our friends forgot to add this few lines that appear at the foot of the article from alexis.it she posted:

Invece, Rosolino ha progetti matrimoniali con la danzatrice russa Natalia Titova (Instead, Rosolino is planning to marry Russian dancer Natalia Titova)

However this website is the one that reads Charlotte went to the Annabel's fashion show in London in order to meet Prince William (this article is from last week). As far as we know she met Alex Dellal instead...
Thank you for the information.
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yes Tosca,

I agree with you about Italian magazines. But, If you want your privacy, why you should have dinner in the center of Rome?

Maybe Charlene is tryng to show that she has friends on jet Set?
For me that report on novella sounds like:
"Look at me... I'm on the gotha... I'm a glamourous swimmer, I'm girlfriend of PA, and my best friend(?) is one of most important swimmer in the world..."

I would like to know why Charlene does not stops with these stupid things, come back to pool, and try to do something of good, ex. training hard... instead of drinking and smoking and declare that she is a PROFESSIONAL SWIMMER...A professional swimmer that (From wikipedia)
was a member of the Women's 4x100m MedleySouth African team at the 2000 Summer Olympics, which finished fifth.

I know that is not a good thing make comparison but look at this list:

Letizia of Spain - was a Journalist - She completed a Bachelor’s Degree as well as a Master’s Degree.
Maxima of Holland: A former investment banker, she graduated with a degree in economics
Mary of Denmark: did a combined degree in Commerce and Law
Sophie of Wessex:she worked in the Press and Promotions Department and also PR companies, she launched her own PR agency
Mette Maritt of Norway: attended Bjørknes Private School and then took the examen philosophicum (the preliminary university examination) (whit some problems but she did it!)
Mabel of Orange:She studied Economics and Political Science at the University of Amsterdam
Charlene of Monaco: Declares that she drop out high school, because she think that education is not important. Actual profession: she is mistress of PA, she like drink smoking, go to parties.

So, what I expect from a wife of head of state, is that she can be a good example for girls,children, an people in general! Can you imagine Charlene as princess, make a speach to an international meeting, and say to young people that alchool is not good, or that every children must have the right to study?

I'm not sure that people with a degree is better that people without degree, but I cannot see something of good in this girl...
I will change my opinion when I will see Charlene doing something of good, for example training hard and took an important medal...at this time she could be a good testimonial against doping, a good testimonial about sport...


I do not post the part concerning the titova-rosolino wedding, because I'm not interested in. My interest was to know something about the interview of Max on Novella2000.
I remember some years ago, one interview to Verissimo (a gossip Tv program) of Roberta Capua and Max, when they assure that they were still in love, and that the relationship" with "the blond girl from Australia" was only a friendship... But I'm not sure that the girl was the future "princess to be" CW...

Anyway: new articles @ Charlene Wittstock - Jetstreaker
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