A wife for Albert


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Its probably the first time he's seen him since the holiday break! But, yes, its interesting they're talking more and more.

Ann
 
enchantednights said:
this might be irrelevant, but i read here in boards that andrea and albert spent a lot of time talking during the rose ball and i don't know that gave me a funny feeling inside. so we really don't know.

Someone please correct me on this if I'm wrong, but can Albert adopt Andrea as his heir? Is that alllowed in the reforms done by Rainier? That would be a solution to rumors on what would happen if Albert does not produce a heir and give Albert some space to breathe.
 
Toledo said:
Someone please correct me on this if I'm wrong, but can Albert adopt Andrea as his heir? Is that alllowed in the reforms done by Rainier? That would be a solution to rumors on what would happen if Albert does not produce a heir and give Albert some space to breathe.
Albert cannot and does not need to adopt Andrea as his heir. He is in line of succession after his mother Caroline who is Albert's heir. If he does not produce legitimate children before his death, the line of succession goes through the princess and her children with Andrea first in line. End of story.

See 'Who is next in line?' thread http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f13/who-next-line-9294.html
 
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Laviollette said:
All of his women (with a few exceptions: Mary Wayte, Stevie Parker, Alicia W.) are exactly the same; dim, fawning, willing to have sexual intercourse within minutes of meeting him, poor, uneducated, indiscreet, and they get pregnant to hang on to him and his money to try to gain a title for themselves and their little bundles of joy.

Do you see the pattern here? He needs ladies like that, kind of airheads in some degree, to make sure he is always the one in control. We can even go Freudian on this, Laviollette. Albert's mother was a powerhouse, beautiful beyond belief with class like no other and very intelligent. The women in Rainier's side of the family are also like that, strong will, dominant and intelligent. Caroline, Albert's older sister, is also one of the most well educated royals around. And also very dominant.

Only Stephanie is the weak link, she is frail and maleable. Yet, she seems the one more close to Albert because she is no threat to his manliness, with her he is the strong one.

So, what do you gals and guys think? Is Albert attracted to women that are the opposite of Caroline and Grace because that makes him be in control better than with a lady friend whose personality could become a challenge to his'? :rolleyes:
 
Laviollette said:
All of his women (with a few exceptions: Mary Wayte, Stevie Parker, Alicia W.) are exactly the same; dim, fawning, willing to have sexual intercourse within minutes of meeting him, poor, uneducated, indiscreet, and they get pregnant to hang on to him and his money to try to gain a title for themselves and their little bundles of joy.
Yeah thats what I read too they must really desperate for sex........from Albert. Anyway thats what Jazmin Graces mother said that she started to have sex within minutes of meeting him.:eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :eek: :p
 
De La Cruza said:
Yeah thats what I read too they must really desperate for sex........from Albert. Anyway thats what Jazmin Graces mother said that she started to have sex within minutes of meeting him.:eek: :eek: :rolleyes: :eek: :p

And seems once the kid is in her/his teens the mother becomes a candidate for sainhood. Here in the USA news this week's target of the yellow press is a NY Yankee baseball star who had a love child that is now in her teens. He has always supported her but refused to become aquainted with this 'unwanted' kid. The mother made the kid talk to the press and expose the secret because she wanted her support payments to increase so she could get a new car...for the kid. So, the scandal has been exploited on the news all week.

The story sounds too familiar to the Jazmin Grace's mother quest for money...I mean, recognition.

What can I say, it's all about money and these kids are the ones caught in the middle.
 
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Toledo said:
And seems once the kid is in her/his teens the mother becomes a candidate for sainhood. Here in the USA news this week's target of the yellow press is a baseball star who had a love child that is now in her teens. He has always supported her but refused to become aquainted with this 'unwanted' kid. The mother made the kid talk to the press and expose the secret because she wanted her support payments to increase so she could get a new car...for the kid. So, the scandal has been exploited on the news all week.

The story sounds too familiar to the Jazmin Grace's mother quest for money...I mean, recognition.

What can I say, it's all about money and these kids are the ones caught in the middle.

it's really sad isn;tit, that the kids have to pay for their parents mistakes? (no pun intended)

and i know this is off topic, but what baseball star? it's been an off week for me so maybe i've missed it.
 
Enchantednights, hi
I just updated my post above by adding a link to the NY Yankees (this other link has the picture) baseball player's love child scandal . From what I read in other papers, she was an affair he had when he was young and not so famous, but the press is placing all the blame on him because it's better that way to sell papers rather than placing responsibility on both parents. Same thing happens with Prince Albert. Last time I've checked it takes two to have a kid, right? Not to mention that it was the mother who broke up with him while she was pregnant. Once again, the kid's life ends up being short-changed by both parents.
 
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Toledo said:
Do you see the pattern here? He needs ladies like that, kind of airheads in some degree, to make sure he is always the one in control. We can even go Freudian on this, Laviollette. Albert's mother was a powerhouse, beautiful beyond belief with class like no other and very intelligent. The women in Rainier's side of the family are also like that, strong will, dominant and intelligent. Caroline, Albert's older sister, is also one of the most well educated royals around. And also very dominant.

Only Stephanie is the weak link, she is frail and maleable. Yet, she seems the one more close to Albert because she is no threat to his manliness, with her he is the strong one.

So, what do you gals and guys think? Is Albert attracted to women that are the opposite of Caroline and Grace because that makes him be in control better than with a lady friend whose personality could become a challenge to his'? :rolleyes:

It's probably a way of protecting himself -- finding the anti-Grace, so to speak -- against his father's legacy. He has a lot to live up to: the marriage of the century, turning a sleepy, broke gambling haven into a center for the international jet set and their money, modernizing the economy, instituting organizations that benefit the Monegasques (hospitals, etc.), and creating world class charitable institutions that benefit millions in the most destitute areas (AMADE, etc.). It's a lot to live up to.

I don't think Albert has figured out what he needs is a helpmate who can help him achieve the goals he outlined in his address last July not just one who can validate his ego as an attractive man. To be quite frank, I find a drive, a desire "to be a better man" (to quote "As Good As It Gets"), the dream to leave the world a better place than what you found it is much more attractive to me than the size of someone's wallet or how many exotic vacations he can whisk me off to.
 
Toledo said:
Enchantednights, hi
I just updated my post above by adding a link to the NY Yankees (this other link has the picture) baseball player's love child scandal . From what I read in other papers, she was an affair he had when he was young and not so famous, but the press is placing all the blame on him because it's better that way to sell papers rather than placing responsibility on both parents. Same thing happens with Prince Albert. Last time I've checked it takes two to have a kid, right? Not to mention that it was the mother who broke up with him while she was pregnant. Once again, the kid's life ends up being short-changed by both parents.

I agree with you, women these days (I'm female BTW) have the power to take care of themselves as well as men do so if there's a pregnancy it's a 50/50 kind of thing and people shouldn't blame only the man or the woman for that
 
On the baseball guy scandal, from what I read around he only sued her when she treatened to expose him if he did not give her more money. This seems to be the same line of work done on Prince Albert too, scandal and embarrasment if the bank account does not open up quickly.

And then, the tabloid frenzy starts the moment these ladies of the past use the kids as a tool to get money, which is what they are after, more than recognition. The loser is always the child, whose life will be forever exposed thanks to two parents that could not deal with a solution on what was best for the child.

That brings up another case to strike a paralel with Albert's current predicament. Anyone from Belgium knows whatever happened to the love child of Belgium's King? Maybe Albert could see a glimpse of the future, his future, on that other royal family
 
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Oh for the days when women were too ladylike to openly sleep with anything famous and ashamed of when they became pregnant from it.


Ann
 
When the Monaco scandal broke there was an article comparing Albert's attitude to other royals from the past. In the past not only the royal will protect the mistress but would also openly accept the children as family and ennoble them. In the case of female rulers it was the same. From Catherine the Great in Russia to Queen Isabel II of Spain, their kids became part of the aristocracy under other names.

Makes me wonder if when the kid, Alexandre, hits the teens how many of us will be around here to discuss about it.
 
It is very expensive to host these boards as Bear found out. Andy has some help, but I don't know if TRF will be able to survive beyond the next three years.

If TRF in some form is still here in ten or fifteen years, I'm sure I'll still be checking in...unless of course I've gone insane and married Albert ;)
Hmm, those might not be mutually exclusive things :shock:

Ann
 
Suonymona said:
...If TRF in some form is still here in ten or fifteen years, I'm sure I'll still be checking in...unless of course I've gone insane and married Albert ;)
Hmm, those might not be mutually exclusive things :shock:

Ann

Your wedding would make a nice thread. :p
What Tabloid would you be registering in for the wedding gifts? :D
 
Since just the quiet civil ceremony in the throne room is out, I would have to say that OK! seems to spend the most on the most trivial connections.

With all Albert has (and the little I do) I think I would request no gifts, just donations to the Princess Grace foundation...and prayers!

Does anyone else think Albert is publicly squiring CW around to appease those who wonder why he doesn't have a girlfriend? That possibly she is eyes open in the agreement and is acting as a dating surrogate/beard so he can go into his Artic trip more peacefully?

Ann
 
I think one of the reasons Albert gets so many women is his understanding of them...sure he is a Prince and everything but he really likes women. He probably has more female friends that male and he knows how to handle them, well most of them. For all his antics and escapades regarding woman he seems like a gentleman to me. So in that sense I don't think he has a type.
 
Queen Zenobia said:
I think one of the reasons Albert gets so many women is his understanding of them...sure he is a Prince and everything but he really likes women. He probably has more female friends that male and he knows how to handle them, well most of them. For all his antics and escapades regarding woman he seems like a gentleman to me. So in that sense I don't think he has a type.
I'm sorry to disagree here, but you would find just as many women around him if he looked like quasimodo and would treat them badly. He is filthy rich, he is a prince and he is a man and that means he is attracting a lot of women just like some decaying animal attracts a lot of flies. It doesn't say anything about his qualities as a man or human being, just as the flies don't tell you what sort of animal is decaying. Or to put it in the words of Jane Austen:"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife. however little known the feelings or views of such a man may be on his first entering a neighbourhood, this truth is so well fixed in the minds of the surrounding families, that he is considered as the rightful property of some or other of their daughters." (first lines of pride and prejudice)
 
Your so right on the money Paca, I must agree. But with Albert do not forget the powerful draw of Fame. There is a book by Milan Kundara called Immortality where he discussed in long and graphic detail the desire people have to be immortal by attaching themselves to other people who are immortal, historical, for whatever reason. He also wrote The Incredable Likeness of Being. Everyone must know he has got to have great game. He can probably get a woman's cloths off with a look, especially a young woman. As long as it's two consenting adults, whatever. CW, if she's even just one of his girlfriends, got her ten minutes.
 
I really do believe Prince Albert will marry. He has consistently said in all of his recent interviews he has every intention to marry. However, after the recent media frenzy with Charlene’s public appearance, I do not think you will see him in the public with a woman until he announce his engagement. I think he will do as Prince Felipe of Spain and Prince Phillipe of Belgium. Everyone was surprised (pleasantly) when they announced their engagements. Neither was seen publicly with their future princess before the announcement. Felipe and Letizia were only dating a few months before they announced their engagements. I think once you reach a certain age, you have a better idea (hopefully Albert does now) of who you are and what you are looking for in a life-long mate and it does not take to long to know if that person is the right person for you.

I really want to see Albert with a soul mate who will help to enhance the image of Monaco. I know from the first pictures posted of Charlene, many posters noted that she was pretty and seem sweet and they expressed their desires that he marry her. Actually, someone posted an article that a local Monaco commentator wrote comparing Charlene to Grace (mainly attractiveness, blonde hair, and blue eyes), hence she was nice and Albert should marry her. Albert loves sports and the Olympics and he seems to share a certain bond with athletes, especially aspiring Olympians. However, I hope he can look behind just those interests when it comes to choosing his bride.

I doubt if any of us actually know any of these royals personally. We mainly form our opinions from pictures, and occasionally, written or spoken words. But sometimes the littlest (or not so littlest) action says a lot about a person’s true character. I read a lot of scathing critiques about Nicole’s actions, some I think were fair and some not so fair. But the one big action that Nicole performed (that we know is true) that says the most about her character is the sending of pictures of Albert with Alexandre to Ranier. That (to me) demonstrated that she is a vindictive, naïve, desperate, and not to mention stupid person. We do not know the seriousness of Charlene and Albert’s relationship. However, her behavior at the Olympics is the one little act that sticks out in my mind that demonstrates something about her character. She KNEW the photographers were taking their pictures. She wanted everyone to know that she and Albert were more than just friends sitting in a stadium. She wanted everyone to know that she and Albert were romantically involved. Look at the pictures again, have any of you ever seen a grown woman fawn over a grown man like that in a public stadium (ok, I’m a little prudish, but I still thought it was over the top behavior for an IOC member, prince, and head of state)? I know this is a little action and many of you said they were cute and just having fun, but I think Charlene knew (and still knows) what she was doing. I just hope Albert knows what he is doing.

I will wait for that surprise announcement. I just hope it is someone who is discrete (let’s not forget Charlene’s blow by blow detail of their first date) and cultivated.
 
I really liked him with Tasha Vasconcelos does anyone know why they broke up?
 
MyAdia-There's so much stuff to read-one can't possibly read all of it. But I did read an NC interview in the early months where she said she was told PR knew about the child and she wanted Alex to get to know his grfather. There was a lot of serious stuff going on and they had their reasons for telling her that. I thought in all fairness I should tell you because you felt so serious about it.
 
I've merged the thread "Albert's Taste in Women" into this thread because the two threads have been duplicating each other for a while.

As a result, this thread is now over 20 pages like part I was, so I'm closing it and starting part III, which can be found here:

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f13/wife-albert-part-iii-9332.html

Elspeth

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