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Old 03-06-2006, 10:10 PM
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I'm not so sure I'd call it scandal. I mean, they are both single consenting adults. They can pretty much do whatever they want. Except, it's not, I don't think, too repectable to admit to shacking up with an IOC official if your in training to compete. The olympics is political on some levels and it's just not smart.
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Old 03-06-2006, 10:15 PM
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Has anyone else gotten a look at her Paris Match interview? I'm a little confussed about that and I"m wondering if someone can clear it up. Didn't PA sue Paris Match? I cannot remember. If that is the case he certainly didn't send her out or give her permission to sit down for an interview with them. It would be like throwing them a great big bone, here make some more money off me. I don't know what kind of publication Paris Match is, maybe I'm off. Anyone?
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Old 03-06-2006, 10:37 PM
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I agree, but there are sooo many women who would willing just throw themselves at PA, no matter if they cheapen themselves or not. They don't care, so why should he?

And I can certainly imagine that he and his people would not be excited about the whiff of any new scandals at all on Albert.
But we still have no proof that they are no longer an item.

Re: PA's taste in women, to quote my mother: Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

What I find amazing, is that the Monegasques seem to forgive him no matter what he does... I guess that's one of the perks of absolute monarchy.
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Old 03-06-2006, 10:39 PM
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Albert must be used to getting the same type of woman: eager to be the next Princess of Monaco and who are at his beck and call. Men in general don't like women who are so easy, so the woman who calls his bluff, has a life of her own and makes him work for her will snag him. This is especially true for a man of Albert's position because he knows just what he's worth. He needs this kind of woman at his side. It is a requirement, not an option. (Especially after the NC fiasco, he is probably even more afraid to commit!) How boring must it be for Albert to get any woman he sets his sights on?

If it's really over with CW, she was dumb, plain and simple. Him taking her to such a public event was a huge test, and she proved that she couldn't handle it.

I maintain that the right woman for Albert will be as discreet as the love letters passed across the Atlantic between Ranier and Grace.

I definitely agree. Men like Albert always end up marrying (or having a long term relationship with) women who don't worship them. I remember hearing that that's what first attracted JFK jr. (a womanizer in his own right) to his wife.

Then, too, there are the men who just aren't marriage material.
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Old 03-06-2006, 10:55 PM
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Me too! For her to have disappeared so suddenly, it's a safe bet that they went their separate ways, especially after all the pawing and schmoozing for the cameras that went on. It was pretty embarrassing.
Although it could have been planned since PA was back in Monaco shortly after CW "disappeared." I just can't imagine what PA said when CW gave the "no marriage plans yet" quote. I have to wonder how long they have been a couple?

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Can't even guess how that conversation went!! LOL.
Oh, neither can I but I think it might not have been all that pretty. Do you think that maybe that's why she ran to Paris Match for an exclusive? Although there are two ways this can go: (1) she spoke to them w/ his permission with the understanding that she not mention the relationship so he would get back in PM's good graces; (2) he dumped her, she ran to PM, but they censored her.

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The press know they can get info from her...she's too easy and eager to talk because she likes attention. They probably figure they can hound her until they get further details. My guess is that she will fade away for a while because she made a fool of herself and things didn't go as she thought they would.
True...but it does smell a bit of self-promotion as well. After all, who would really care about her if she hadn't been seen with PA?

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Old 03-06-2006, 11:13 PM
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Time will tell! If they are still an item, we will se pics of them soon enough.
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:23 AM
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Regarding PM i think it should be mentioned that if celebs want to talk they usually do it there. There is also Gala in France, but somehow PM has managed to keep a fairly good rep (they also write on other things then celebs btw). The Grimaldis have had good relations with PM for a very long time (apparently it was their boss at the time who arranged the photo shoot of Grace and Rainier when they first met, so somehow PM has always considered the Grimaldis as belonging to them.) Generally I think that CW does not need PAs approval to talk to them. She might have talked to him about it, but if PM and CW wanted to do it and PA would have been against it, he couldn't have done anything about it. Also I don't think that PM would censure her interview. If she would talk about PA, it would be her responsibility not theirs (note he did not sue NC for giving the interview, but PM for printing the pics). So legally they would have been fine to print whatever she says even if it would be about PAs private life with her, because if she is part of it, she can talk about her side. But she can not speculate in public about whether or not he wants to marry her until he has actually made the proposal. I would assume that she made it a condition to not talk about it. Besides before this kind of interview goes to publish, they usually present the version they want to print for proof read to the one who has been interviewed to make sure that they do approve the article.

As I said before, when the whole thing started, I don't think it was ever anything serious. There was too much posing for cameras from both sides for my liking. they both knew what was going to happen and apparently accepted it. it is still beyond me, why he would do that, since it obviously sends out a bad message to those who would want to take him seriously. But maybe this was a message to someone totally different that we don't even know about. Maybe someone wasn't getting the message that there was no marriage in it for her (whoever she was) and this was his way of making sure she'd understand (which woman would accept the man she wants to marry to pose for pics like that with another woman. no decent one IMO). Maybe he had raised someone elses expectations and didn't know how to get out of it. ( some people have problems saying no out of fear to hurt the others feelings....) Who knows? But maybe it was just bad PR work once again. That wouldn't be a first.
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Old 03-07-2006, 09:00 AM
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PA has a wondering i hope he gets over it at some point....


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Old 03-07-2006, 10:54 AM
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PA has a wondering i hope he gets over it at some point....
That's hilarious! At least his gaze isn't lower.
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Old 03-07-2006, 01:58 PM
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That's hilarious! At least his gaze isn't lower.
That is a screech...and the look makes it priceless...
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:10 PM
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Regarding PM i think it should be mentioned that if celebs want to talk they usually do it there. There is also Gala in France, but somehow PM has managed to keep a fairly good rep (they also write on other things then celebs btw). The Grimaldis have had good relations with PM for a very long time (apparently it was their boss at the time who arranged the photo shoot of Grace and Rainier when they first met, so somehow PM has always considered the Grimaldis as belonging to them.) Generally I think that CW does not need PAs approval to talk to them. She might have talked to him about it, but if PM and CW wanted to do it and PA would have been against it, he couldn't have done anything about it. Also I don't think that PM would censure her interview. If she would talk about PA, it would be her responsibility not theirs (note he did not sue NC for giving the interview, but PM for printing the pics). So legally they would have been fine to print whatever she says even if it would be about PAs private life with her, because if she is part of it, she can talk about her side. But she can not speculate in public about whether or not he wants to marry her until he has actually made the proposal. I would assume that she made it a condition to not talk about it. Besides before this kind of interview goes to publish, they usually present the version they want to print for proof read to the one who has been interviewed to make sure that they do approve the article.
PM was practically required reading for French majors when I was an undergrad and I think they do a wonderful job covering a wide array of topics. Much more accessible than Le Monde was (at least from my point of view all those years ago). I just find that something isn't quite right with the whole situation. Maybe I was brought up wrong, but self-promotion wouldn't be my way of getting into someone's good graces.

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As I said before, when the whole thing started, I don't think it was ever anything serious. There was too much posing for cameras from both sides for my liking. they both knew what was going to happen and apparently accepted it. it is still beyond me, why he would do that, since it obviously sends out a bad message to those who would want to take him seriously. But maybe this was a message to someone totally different that we don't even know about. Maybe someone wasn't getting the message that there was no marriage in it for her (whoever she was) and this was his way of making sure she'd understand (which woman would accept the man she wants to marry to pose for pics like that with another woman. no decent one IMO). Maybe he had raised someone elses expectations and didn't know how to get out of it. ( some people have problems saying no out of fear to hurt the others feelings....) Who knows? But maybe it was just bad PR work once again. That wouldn't be a first.
There's got to be easier ways of getting rid of a woman without making a fool of yourself and raising expectations of someone else. If the whole thing was just PR gone wrong, I think the Palace needs to rethink its strategy or hire someone new...
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Old 03-07-2006, 03:32 PM
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"Maybe someone wasn't getting the message that there was no marriage in it for her (whoever she was) and this was his way of making sure she'd understand (which woman would accept the man she wants to marry to pose for pics like that with another woman. no decent one IMO). Maybe he had raised someone elses expectations and didn't know how to get out of it. ( some people have problems saying no out of fear to hurt the others feelings....)" Paca

Interesting point of view, could actually be some truth to it. Maybe she wanted some press and he just figured he could help her out.

The pic is really funny. IMO he can look at any women he wants and date as often as he likes. He's a single man, not married to anyone. I find the wide variety of women he dates to be refreshing and a reminder that it's what's on the inside that counts. I say that and I must qualify it by saying I think It is VERY important for women (and men) to at least brush their teeth, comb their hair, and try to look decent in public. I was completely unimpressed by the pictures of CW where she looked like she'd just rolled out of bed, ie: no makeup, no hairbrush, bad haircut, bad color, bed head. She would have been safe to bet on camera's being around.
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:03 PM
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The pic is really funny. IMO he can look at any women he wants and date as often as he likes. He's a single man, not married to anyone. I find the wide variety of women he dates to be refreshing and a reminder that it's what's on the inside that counts. I say that and I must qualify it by saying I think It is VERY important for women (and men) to at least brush their teeth, comb their hair, and try to look decent in public. I was completely unimpressed by the pictures of CW where she looked like she'd just rolled out of bed, ie: no makeup, no hairbrush, bad haircut, bad color, bed head. She would have been safe to bet on camera's being around.
Yes, but after a point it just becomes amusing...I wonder if he even saw that woman walking by...or he could be thinking, "Did I...or didn't I..."

I'm all for the natural look, but you're right...at least brush your hair. She looked pretty coiffed at the Opening Ceremonies...but it was downhill after that. (No pun intended.) You need to speak with my assistant as well...can't be taken seriously if you come to work looking like you just rolled out of bed.
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:57 PM
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PA has a wondering i hope he gets over it at some point....
See, this is exactly why I myself would not want to marry a man like this.

He's always running, looking, showing interest in the next woman he would see. He must be some kind of addict or something (just kidding) -- or maybe it's because he is obliged to do all these official things and cannot live a regular life with no cameras, so this constant roaming is a way for him to pass off steam or something...

That pic is hysterical (who knows what he's actually looking at -- it's his own business, but given our dear Albie's craving for women...) :p
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I guess we can't really tell what he's actually looking at.
I'm more interested in the guy walking in front of him.
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I would love to see Albert married...what about that lady friend he was seen with at the Turin Olympics?

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I would love to see Albert married...what about that lady friend he was seen with at the Turin Olympics?

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No one knows. Charlene Wittstock has disappeared and changed her phone number after her spectacular debut at the 2006 Turino Olympics where she and the prince cuddled and smooched in public. Only time will tell. I'm hoping whoever he marries is a more private person. Princess Grace brought glitz and glamour to Monaco but now it needs some peace and quiet. All the noise seems to have had a negative affect on Caro, Albert and Stephanie. I like the Liechtenstein model personally.
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Old 03-07-2006, 10:05 PM
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No one knows. Charlene Wittstock has disappeared and changed her phone number after her spectacular debut at the 2006 Turino Olympics where she and the prince cuddled and smooched in public. Only time will tell. I'm hoping whoever he marries is a more private person. Princess Grace brought glitz and glamour to Monaco but now it needs some peace and quiet. All the noise seems to have had a negative affect on Caro, Albert and Stephanie. I like the Liechtenstein model personally.
Should she not have known her actions would cause a stir? Did she not think talking to a magazine would not create some buzz around her? Could she be so naive?

Did she actually swim or do anything at the contest, or was she only there being seen w/PA?
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Old 03-07-2006, 10:20 PM
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Should she not have known her actions would cause a stir? Did she not think talking to a magazine would not create some buzz around her? Could she be so naive?

Did she actually swim or do anything at the contest, or was she only there being seen w/PA?
She could not have been so naive...she absolutely knew what she was doing. She was more than aware of the photographers around her...and I think she was craving the attention. The question that begs to be answered is what was PA thinking?????????

No swimming at the Winter Games...she wasn't even with the South African delegation (if there was one). She was there to be with him...
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She could not have been so naive...she absolutely knew what she was doing. She was more than aware of the photographers around her...and I think she was craving the attention. The question that begs to be answered is what was PA thinking?????????

No swimming at the Winter Games...she wasn't even with the South African delegation (if there was one). She was there to be with him...
So she knew what she was doing (at least had a vague idea), and he probably is so used to having the attention anyway that he couldn't have thought about anything because having the camera focused on himself is how he has learned to live his life, and he likes to be next to woman anyway...

sounds possible like she was trying to profit off his celebrity abit -- or build a fence around him (maybe)...

Wow. Do you think she would be calculating a little? Sounds crazy to me.

And the idea that Albert would be so calculating is awful, but I would not put it past him. totally inconsiderate, if true. but then, he may well have an idea that other people (women especially) are for his own use and amusement, given his station in life...

Who knows -- I'm just speculating, that's all.
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