A wife for Albert

[AquaMarine]

Originally Posted by pinklady1991

...Also re: would he be faithful...I don't know...I'd like to think that he had a solid example of a faithful marriage from his parents and follows what he had been taught. But I agree with paca sometimes habits are hard to break, vow in front of God not withstanding.

IMHO, quite the contrary , Albert is afraid to repeat his parents marriage type and tries to avoid it delaying his own experience. Faithful...it's well known they weren't...Let's be perfectly honest, Grace and Ranier had exceptional and strong personalities, as parents they were loving and careful, but at the same time we should not forget that their intimate life was far from ideal from the beginning to the end, it wasn't peaceful and happy (may be only on magazine covers). Their union was sooner a firm companionship, and so I think Albert have some fears about future family relationship, they are hiden deeply inside and probably he even does not know what&who he needs exactly so that to create happy family...In this case Albert differs from Steph. She learns by her own mistakes fearlessly doing wrong steps and repeating them time and again while Albert prefers to remain as an observer :)

[MazD]

He won't be getting married anytime soon, he's too old to not have committed to one person without a scary reason :o .

[mw7060a]

Originally Posted by AquaMarine

IMHO, quite the contrary , Albert is afraid to repeat his parents marriage type and tries to avoid it delaying his own experience. Faithful...it's well known they weren't...Let's be perfectly honest, Grace and Ranier had exceptional and strong personalities, as parents they were loving and careful, but at the same time we should not forget that their intimate life was far from ideal from the beginning to the end, it wasn't peaceful and happy (may be only on magazine covers)... :)

When you say it was well know that "they" (meaning Princess Grace and Prince Rainier) were not "faithful", was it ever really proven that Princess Grace and Prince Rainier cheated on each other ? Or is that just speculation? I remember Larry King specifically addressing that issue to Prince Albert in an interview, and Prince Albert said his parents had their arguments like most couples do, but that there had been no infidelities. I thought (maybe I'm just naive), perhaps, that had addressed all of those rumors.

[paca]

Originally Posted by mw7060a

When you say it was well know that "they" (meaning Princess Grace and Prince Rainier) were not "faithful", was it ever really proven that Princess Grace and Prince Rainier cheated on each other ? Or is that just speculation? I remember Larry King specifically addressing that issue to Prince Albert in an interview, and Prince Albert said his parents had their arguments like most couples do, but that there had been no infidelities. I thought (maybe I'm just naive), perhaps, that had addressed all of those rumors.

Whether they cheated on each other or not, I think that is not so important (and I wouldn't take their childrens word for it, because children - no matter what age - do not like to discuss their parents sexlife). Most don't even like to admit that their parents ever had one, even though they know perfectly well that at least once in their lives they must have had sex with one another (unless of course immaculate conception is the rule in human procreation, but I guess I missed that lesson in school ). What is known though is that they were seperated for a while (Grace living in Paris with her daughters) and apparently they were discussing divorce. Who knows what would have happened if she had lived. But a good indication for her thoughts of her own marriage is IMO the fact that she encouraged Caro to divorce, rather then to resolve and endure (which is would she was prepared to do, seeing that she was catholic). Mothers often encourage their daughters to go ahead, where they themselves lacked the courage or just couldn't go ahead with it due to their own upbringing and believes and the time they were living in.

But the marriage between Grace and Rainier was much less of a fairytale then most people think and the media and the family themselves would like to make the public believe. One should not forget that a lot of tourists are attracted to Monaco as the country where fairytales do come true. To say that their marriage was just as good or bad as the average marriage, would not attract millions of tourists to come here every year. You always have to remember, that once you wipe away the gloss, all you see are two human beings who got married and had children and all the problems that are involved with it.

[Horseygal]

Originally Posted by pinklady1991

Horseygal, do you think by PA's deflecting the focus away from him it may be a defensive tactic to keep his private life as private as possible? Perhaps he knows exactly what he wants but hopes to keep those criteria quiet so as to avoid women molding themselves into something they aren't? Perhaps this is a naive way of looking at things, but do you think it's a possibility? Another reason, could be he doesn't know what he wants exactly enough to verbalize it, but he'll know when he meets her?

As Lady M says in another post, marriage to a sovereign ruler isn't quite like what the average person experiences: it reminds me of a doctor or high-level politician but on a more intense level. I've heard the same thing that Rainier was in control of Albert's education, while the girls were Grace's domain. But keeping the Oedipal analysis out of the discussion (that's a thread in of itself), any spouse of a reigning monarch has to learn to juggle the needs of his/her spouse, the state, and his/her children above his/her own. Raised in that kind of environment could leave PA a pretty good judge of who is up to the job and who isn't. And in today's day and age, most people don't know how to truly put the needs of others above their own.

Almost anything is "possible" within reason -but, then, why have children out of wedlock.....that COMPLICATES things even more!!! If you're looking for "the one" you don't want to have to explain that you have a few bastards running around, or future claims by women about their children. He doesn't seem to be going about this the right way - rather, like someone creating reasons to not to commit (maybe he's thinking no one will want him at his age, with illegitimate children).

[pinklady1991]

Originally Posted by paca

Of course if you are the kind of woman who needs a lot of attention, that will be hard, but if you are independent and know how to occupy yourself in the times when he is otherwise busy...Basically it takes very low maintenance women for this.

Lots of posts tonight...busy day at the office so bear with me folks...thanks in advance for your patience. :)

Of course, anyone serving as PA's wife will have her own agenda of obligations and duties for various charities and the family. So it's not like she's at home waiting around for him.

[teense]

I noticed that Tasha de Vasconcelos is back in the picture!!! She is sitting in a prominent position (Same row-couple seats away from PA) in the new circus pictures!!!
I think they could be back together! She is beautiful...

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by teense

I noticed that Tasha de Vasconcelos is back in the picture!!! She is sitting in a prominent position (Same row-couple seats away from PA) in the new circus pictures!!!
I think they could be back together! She is beautiful...

They would make a lovely couple.

[LadyMacAlpine]

Originally Posted by Freedom

They would make a lovely couple.

She is the one I said was the prettiest he dated. She didn't say anything bad about him to the press only good things. Last I heard she lived in Monaco.

[paca]

Not permanently, but she has anppartment here. Andakea cab to go shoping.

[teense]

Originally Posted by LadyMacAlpine

She is the one I said was the prettiest he dated. She didn't say anything bad about him to the press only good things. Last I heard she lived in Monaco.

Even after they broke up ,she was kind in her comments about him.She praised him when asked to comment about his enthronement.
A few months back, she was interviewed saying she wanted children in her future, but lacked a boyfriend--- maybe he read that article.....

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by LadyMacAlpine

She didn't say anything bad about him to the press only good things.

That's true class :)

[paca]

why should she have said bad tings about him? The publicity boosted her carreer and if she wanted to continue to live here, not talk or o say nice things was her only option. Especially if she wanted to continue to attend high profile events here, which she needs to be photographed at to help her carreer. I don't call that class, I call that smart. Claudia Schiffer did exactly the same when the press spread rumours about her and PA and she still lived here.

[teense]

Paca,
Does Tasha attend these types of events frequently with PA-- is this nothing to get excited about regarding a future wife ....?
Or is this a way of publicly stating to everyone that she is back in the fold?

[pinklady1991]

Originally Posted by Horseygal

Almost anything is "possible" within reason -but, then, why have children out of wedlock.....that COMPLICATES things even more!!! If you're looking for "the one" you don't want to have to explain that you have a few bastards running around, or future claims by women about their children. He doesn't seem to be going about this the right way - rather, like someone creating reasons to not to commit (maybe he's thinking no one will want him at his age, with illegitimate children).

We all have baggage, just that some have more than most. And besides, he didn't intentionally have a child with NC. There are probably 1,001 reasons why he hasn't married that really are not that apparent to the public. Mostly I think it has a lot to do with his judgment of who can and is willing to do the job.

[pinklady1991]

Originally Posted by Horseygal

Well, you just said it - her "career" is on the slump, and she needs some publicity....expensive cab ride!!! Also, what is her supposed "career??"

I think we're all jumping to conclusions here...no one knows if they are dating again just b/c she was seen in a few photos. And remember PA was dating her, Alicia Warlick and a host of others when in the relationship wit NC. Could mean something; could mean nothing. Could be that she is posing as a "camera ready" date. Paca, I guess this means you'll have to scout around to see if she's at the St. Devote Mass on the 27th. (That is the feast day, correct?)

I have to agree with paca she does suddenly turn up when her modeling/acting career needs a boost. She'll never be starving but the behavior that paca describes does make her sound a bit self-important. Obviously the high maintenance woman that we all believe would be the worst choice for princess. It also doesn't sound like she'd be very content for very long living in someone else's shadow.

She is stunning in the photos I've seen so I can't judge her on her everyday look and if she can make him happy...hey, more power to her.

[LadyMacAlpine]

For those who mentioned Paris Hilton with Albert according to the charts
Human rating: 12.9 / 20
Emotional rating: 15.0 / 20
Physical rating: 12.2 / 20
Communication rating: 14.8 / 20
Durability rating: 12.9 / 20
[Balanced global rating: 2 925,87]

She beats out Nicole Kidman with [Balanced global rating: 2 352,68]
.
His best match is Monica Bellucci
Human rating: 17.7 / 20
Emotional rating: 18.9 / 20
Physical rating: 19.8 / 20
Communication rating: 19.3 / 20
Durability rating: 15.7 / 20
[Balanced global rating: 4 026,23]

He an Naomi Campbell didn't do to hot

Human rating: 6.5 / 20
Emotional rating: 6.1 / 20
Physical rating: 6.7 / 20
Communication rating: 7.5 / 20
Durability rating: 9.5 / 20
[Balanced global rating: 1 424,33]

[AquaMarine]

Originally Posted by pinklady1991

We all have baggage, just that some have more than most. And besides, he didn't intentionally have a child with NC. There are probably 1,001 reasons why he hasn't married that really are not that apparent to the public. Mostly I think it has a lot to do with his judgment of who can and is willing to do the job.

One of those 1001 reasons is evident...it's on the surface...Many men and women in their thirties-fortieth do not want marriage because they are so afraid of making a mistake...may be the main mistake in their life. They are confused about what kind of person they want - and the men are even more confused! :o Such doubts and uncertainy about corectness of the every more or less important step are usually absent or blurred when you are twenty...
Second reason its' a habit of living alone when you are responsible only for your own life, do what you want, spend your evenings&nights as you want, feel yourself comfy and want nothing change...unwillingness and fear of changes is a dangerous habi...I know it from my own experience :) ...and understand Albert in respect of it very well

[teense]

Tasha looks like what my husband calls a "FAB"--- Far Away Beauty
She is still very attractive---but it sure makes a difference when the photo is not airbrushed...
Her skin does seem to have more wrinkles and eye bags than a 32 yr. old should have.......
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[pinklady1991]

Well, paca...those photos were quite remarkable. I thought Tasha was still in her 20's and in the photos from the previous posts she looked wonderful. The wonders of airbrushing. I thought she was billing herself as an "actress" these days. I'm glad for my good genes and that I don't look my age. Guess we can cross her off the list.