A wife for Albert

[paca]

Originally Posted by LadyMacAlpine

What if Albert just marries a complete unknown he is in love with? What if she can't have children? What if she isn't at all pretty?

complete unknown - no problems, so were the Princesses of Holland, Norway and Denmark. And they all seem to be very popular. The king of Belgium didn't have any kids with Fabiola. They were both very popular. If she isn't pretty? Apparently that doesn't matter either (especially not at a certain age), since the Brits just show as how easy they get used to Camilla. And with new hairstyle, decent make up and clothes she does not look like someone who's making a fool out of herself. THe common denominator among all of them is/was that they are/were sincere and love/d their men.

[AustinTexas1961]

Prince Albert needs to find a woman who is utterly confident and has (or can develop) a thick skin. It would help that the woman be part of an existing royal family or that she has experience being in the limelight... maybe an actress or a diplomat? Ideally, Prince Albert needs a woman in the vein of Queen Elizabeth.. the Queen Mother. She was an absolutely invaluable helpmate to HM King George VI. Basically, it would help to find a modern day version of her... who can help him in his work... perhaps even to help him deal with his speech difficulties. May it be soon. :) from Roman in Austin, Texas

[paca]

I was quite amused today when at the mass someone said to me that the "girl in red" was probably there to romance PA. When I told her that it was CP Victoria and that I didn't expect her to give up the crown of Sweden for Monaco, she was not convinced.

[hsh1969]

Well Paca, you know in those circles they have tried to "partner" Victoria and Albert for awhile now, but they look quite friendly and comfortable with each other, so maybe it's just a frienship thing.

And let me ask a question to you or to anybody who has been in Monaco, it just me or the monegasques behave more like italians than french?

It's been my impression that the people of Monaco are very "latin" and warm blooded, not saying that the french are bad, it just that I find myself very comfy in Monaco (i'm latin descent), and i feel as a foreigner in Paris:) . Did i explain myself correctly?

thanks

[Tosca]

The Monegasques? They're French speaking Italians, as well as Argentinians are Spanish speaking Italians. He, he!
The city of Nice once was part of the Kingdom of Sardinia (North/Western Italy)

[Sancia]

On a french channel this morning a commentator said two princesses he personnally know said him their respective daughter were more than often invited to Monaco.

[hsh1969]

Thanks, Tosca, i was refering to the way the monegascues are, they do act italian. That's what i was trying to say, that's why i think that when the moment for PA to marry they will make the princess better, if she can communicate with them.:)

[paca]

Originally Posted by hsh1969

Well Paca, you know in those circles they have tried to "partner" Victoria and Albert for awhile now, but they look quite friendly and comfortable with each other, so maybe it's just a frienship thing.

And let me ask a question to you or to anybody who has been in Monaco, it just me or the monegasques behave more like italians than french?

It's been my impression that the people of Monaco are very "latin" and warm blooded, not saying that the french are bad, it just that I find myself very comfy in Monaco (i'm latin descent), and i feel as a foreigner in Paris:) . Did i explain myself correctly?

thanks

People in Monaco (I'm talking about regulars, not VIP) are mostly French born and raised in Monaco (enfants de pays), there are a lot of Italians, but I would just classify them as regular southern French (people in Paris are northern people, much more straight, whereas te southerners are more laissser faire - like I find it in most place where you have a lot of sunshine over the year) as you find them in the neighbouring communities as well (btw most people you meet on the streets of MC and who work there, live in Beausoleil, Cap d'Ail, Menton , Nice etc). I find them to be friendlier than the Italians that you find across the border. I find Italians to be very "loud" egocentric in comparison. Real Monegasques are hard to find. I know some of them. Some of them I like, some even a lot, but I often found that they can be at times rather arrogant and claim priviledges for being Monegasques (even those I know well). I have seen people behave rather badly and show a very bad side of themselves - all in the name of being Monegasques. I'm sure PA and family would not approve. We others shrug, because that's the way they are and the older ones won't change. But I think that PA in his speech on the 12th of July made it very clear that those priviledges would require sth of them as well. When he started to speak about these things, everyone went very quiet and you could have heard a needle drop (which was not the case while he was still talking about Rainier). I doubt that everyone understood what he actually demands of the Monegasques. Certainly not the journalists who don't live here and don't know anything about life here, except the glitzy bit that you can see in magazines. In order to really understand Monaco, the Monegasques, French, Italian etc. you need to live here and see for yourself what is going on. Hear people talk and see them act, know the rules and the exceptions and the reasons for the exceptions. Monaco and its people are far more complicated then most think.

As to Vic and Al, the person I spoke to was not even aware of who she was, just thought that she might look good in MC and with Al. Though she said she looks like she has hot blood. I simply think that they have met at so many occasions, weddings , funerals etc. that they just naturally get on easily. Besides they share te same fate. Apart from that , he was already dating when she was still in nappies. Not that that would be a difficulty if they fell in love, but I find it unlikely that either of them would even consider a match. But then EA ad caroline both didn't consider each other for a long time and are now married. I guess we will just have to leave it up to the future to show us.

[hsh1969]

Well, he is the Lord of the Realm now. Next big thing in Monaco: his wedding? Hope so, got a feeling it's coming now.

[jcranma]

Originally Posted by Marengo

I would like to 'select' Princess Maria-Carolina of Bourbon-Parma, daughter of HRH Duke Carlos-Hugo of Bourbon-Parma and HRH Princess Irene of The Netherlands. She is a UN advisor and has worked in refugeecamps in Palestine.

A catholic, pretty, intelligent woman, from 2 of Europe's most prestigious dynasties. Ideal to give the Monaco royals some respectebility.

Could somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't her father used to be the Carlist pretender to the Spanish throne? When Franco was in power, he used the threat of the Carlist "option" to get King Juan carlos and his dad to follow the Franco script.
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[jcranma]

What do you guys think of Dr Condolezza Rice as a possible match for Prince Albert? She has extensive experience in theoretical and applied diplomacy. Prince Albert could sit back and let her run affairs of the state in case he's not in the mood for it.

She seems like an ambitious person, and there's the question of whether she would be content as a consort when she's had powerful positions. She comes off as one who is not easily impressed by tiaras and such.

[lynda]

I admire Dr. Rice. She is intelligent, educated, street savvy, brilliant and highly respected among her peers. She is a real class act. Any man would be proud to have her as a wife. However, Dr. Rice is a no-nonsense person and would never tolerate Albert’s fickle ways towards women. She would knock Albert’s butt the hell and tell him to take his two sisters with him.

Dr. Rice is a mature woman and not a candidate for a family. Besides, Albert is not her type.

[Lillia]

Originally Posted by LadyMacAlpine

What if Albert just marries a complete unknown he is in love with? What if she can't have children? What if she isn't at all pretty?

I would guess he has no real problem any of those things -- especialy the part about the woman not being pretty (at least by what the public would consider pretty anyway...) :p

[AquaMarine]

The more I read about all those above mentioned ridiculous matches offered to Albert the more I make sure that his real choice will be much much much sensational :p than well-known political or show-business figures

[Freedom]

Aquamarine, What do you mean by sensational?

Originally Posted by AquaMarine

The more I read about all those above mentioned ridiculous matches offered to Albert the more I make sure that his real choice will be much much much sensational :p than well-known political or show-business figures

[fandesacs2003]

Originally Posted by Freedom

Aquamarine, What do you mean by sensational?

IMO, Prince Albert will either never marry, or mary a completely unknown and not "fashionable" person. I mean we have very often see him with beauties like Claudia Schiffer or Tacha de Vasconcelos, but we are not sure that he had real relationships with those girls.

The only long relationship we know is with Nicole Coste, which is not really the living example of beauty, fame and blue blood.

If he finds true love, Prince Albert, may act like many the other crownprinces, of Spain, Holland, Denmark, and of course, the first of all Haakon, who imposed their own choice, against all. Do you think that Mette Marit was the exact dreamed bride for a young Prince?? Not at all, but he married her.
Prince Albert would be able to act exactly in the same way.

[AquaMarine]

Originally Posted by fandesacs2003

IMO, Prince Albert will either never marry, or mary a completely unknown and not "fashionable" person. I mean we have very often see him with beauties like Claudia Schiffer or Tacha de Vasconcelos, but we are not sure that he had real relationships with those girls.

The only long relationship we know is with Nicole Coste, which is not really the living example of beauty, fame and blue blood.

If he finds true love, Prince Albert, may act like many the other crownprinces, of Spain, Holland, Denmark, and of course, the first of all Haakon, who imposed their own choice, against all. Do you think that Mette Marit was the exact dreamed bride for a young Prince?? Not at all, but he married her.
Prince Albert would be able to act exactly in the same way.

Yes, it is, but I would add that very likely it will be a carefully though out step. I guess he thinks like me - Everything or Nothing! and so I leave 50% for that he will prefer to stay single forever. It's evident that Albert has a more sophisticated and deep personality than all other today's princes. Saying about his possible "sensational" choice I meant namely that. If nevertheless one day Fate sends him someone special, I doubt that she will be looking&behaving like all those girls around him we saw up to now...It shall be something unexpected...That notorius story with a flight attendant was the first known "trial balloon" :)

[Australian]

Well why should Albert have to marry and have kids? He doesnt REALLY have to, after his death the throne can be passed on to Andrea or maybe Caroline. I think that if he doesnt want to get married then let that be the case, if he does marry in order to keep the public happy, then it wont be a good marriage, it will be miserable, so will his future children because their parents (Albert and ?) married out of force.

There are plenty of other Monegasque royals who can take over when Albert passes. If he doesnt marry, fine, i dont think it is a necessity. Just my opinion. Elizabeth I of England never married or had kids, and the BRF is going strong today. I dont see why this cant be the case for Albert

[AquaMarine]

Sure, Albert has the absolute right to do with his life what he thinks is right...We are just playing here...our suppositions, hopes and wishes remain just our suppositions, hopes and wishes :)

[Horseygal]

I still find it HARD to believe that Prince Albert cannot find a suitable wife and partner somewhere in the world - someone intelligent, confident, and loyal - and STOP looking toward the bimbos from the entertainment world, or those looking to trap him by getting pregnant. It seems that there are not many age-appropriate royal women out there, but was there no one he dated at college, no friend of his Levine cousins, or no professional women he comes across today in his many duties.....I just don't think he has the confidence to commit to someone - truly PUT himself in a situation where he may be rejected. If he were up against someone equally matched, intellectually, they may not find him that interesting. But, all the models and actresses who look great, but are vapid and stupid.....not much of a challenge - great photo op for them, but eventually he gets bored and moves on. NC - not exactly a match (and I don't mean her race) - in that, she had a low-level career, less education than him, she seemingly got fed up being his "secret mistress" and decided to use the only power she had....why he was careless enough to let that happen is beyond me. I don't think he has any good, valid reason for not finding someone from the time he graduated college until now....amazing