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Old 03-14-2008, 10:34 PM
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I like the Norwegian emerald tiara on Princess Ingeborg. She wore it low on her brow and her hairstyle was short and close to the head so that her head, the hair and the tiara were visually one unit.

I think the worst it looked was when Sonja had her eighties hairdo which was short and poufy.

Actually here is Crown Princess Märtha wearing it and it is lovely. She doesn't wear it as low on her head as her mother did but she has a much simpler hairstyle than some of Queen Sonja's so the tiara appears to go with her head a bit better.

I think too much hair competes with the tiara.
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it does need help.
It would seem we are looking at two different parure's.
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:20 AM
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Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The Norwegian emerald tiara is lovely but that huge center emerald just ruins it for me. It throws of the whole balance of the piece.

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Old 03-15-2008, 12:32 AM
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You don't like the way Ingeborg wore it? I thought she made it look quite stylish. In that picture the big center emerald doesn't look that much larger than the two pear shapes beside it. I liked the curve of the pear and diamond shaped emeralds echoing the curve of her head and then the large square emerald perched a little higher in the middle.
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Old 03-15-2008, 11:19 AM
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The pic of Mette-Marit wearing it looks very nice indeed! It surprised me, maybe because I see the piece from an angle?

So, thinking of our little discussion regarding the Norwegian Emerald Tiara I got out my Bible (Munn's Tiara's book) and found the Norwegian tiara (shamefully at the back of the book, along with Sweden's Connaught tiara--shame on Munn!) and I looked at carefully, and I have to say that the workmanship of the piece is remarkable; the lower portion where the base is located is really beautiful--in fact, it is a lovely tiara and probably does not belong here on the Worst Jewels thread--I still think that the central stone is too big; it just looks a little off to me, that big square stone in the middle when there are round stones. But, I think if the square had been positioned at an angle like the other ones at the top it would look horrid.
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Old 03-16-2008, 03:00 PM
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The contraption is indeed a lovely albeit injured creation. I think that the origianal idea was to have the large central stone counterbalanced by two pear shaped stones and then a gradation down to the other emerald cut gems at the top of the tiara. It is a pity the people who removed the pear shaped emeralds simply did not go out and buy two or more goodies, or beg or borrow or even steal them (vide the the Imperial Jewels of Iran) and get a decent pair of earings that way. In any case it is a marvel, warts ??? and all. The workmanship is impeccable.

BTW, oh most Noble Lady Madame Royale, I think you description of the Poppy Horror on the magnificent MII is priceless: functional. Talk about damning with faint praise. Indeed worthy of our Most venomous, mlignant and malevolent thread. Cheeers.
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:10 AM
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Since we had such an interesting discussion regarding the Norwegian Emerald tiara, I thought it would be fun to see what the feelings are regarding the Ruby Mellerino parue of the Dutch Royal Family. I can 't remember if we've talked about it here it here or not, but I think it looks like those garlands you drape on the Christmas tree-the tiara, that is. Love the other pieces.


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Old 03-17-2008, 02:16 PM
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I just knew somebody was going to bring the subject of that gem sow up. It is hideous. All of it. Like much or most of the DRF contraptions it is muck. Pure and simple. Were it not for the marvelous Beatrix, the incredible Wilhelmina et al I would say declare Holland a republic and get rid of the garbage. Have a garage sale a la the UssR of 1927 and use it to support orphanages in Amsterdam or some such. But then they do have some lovely palaces, Het Loo is fabulous. But the jewelry. Well everybody has their little foibles and failures of good taste and behaviour, now don't they. So I suppose we must all be big hearted (gnashing my teeth in the process) and forgive them. Or accept it. Cheers.
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:36 PM
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Now, I rather like the necklace--it isn't your typical diamond and gem set necklace, and I like that huge ruby and diamond fastener. The brooches I even like--and I do like the earrings. The fan, well, I've not seen a close-up to determine if I like it or not, but for me that tiara is just not working. I really just do not think it is a good design--the stones are nice, though.

Speaking of bad Dutch jewels, when was the last time we saw somebody actually wear the ruby peacock tiara?

http://www.royaldutchjewels.nl/new_page_13.html That's another miss, in my opinion.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:06 PM
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I rather like the peacock parure actually, it does 'work' if it is worn correctly. Princess Irene wore it once more 'flat' and it looked much better.

The brooch was worn by Queen Beatrix and Princess Maxima but the tiara and the necklace hasn't been seen since the 70-ties. It probably is personal property of Princess Irene and not in the jewel foundation of the family, so she might have sold it. But to my surprise the earrings recently were worn twice by Princess Margarita of Parma (daughter of Irene), so who knows...

The tiara & necklace was given to Irene by her grandmother Wilhelmina btw, it is said that Wilhelmina wrapped it in a newspaper (or carton).

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The problem with the Dutch jewels is that almost all of the parures were made between 1880 and 1900, so the style is somewhat neo-gothic.

Anyway, dispite the ugliness I certainly hope to see this parure soon.....has been hidden away in the vaults since the state visit of Juliana to Britain in the early 70-ties.

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Old 03-17-2008, 10:29 PM
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The center stone is perfectly positioned on the Norwegian emerald tiara however I think the size is what seems too much. I thought the original tiara with the two pear shaped emeralds still in place might help the look of it but it still appears off to me. I love the craftsmanship of the tiara and, other than the center stone, it is truly lovely. As I have said before, it doesn't belong in the worst royal jewels thread but we have enjoyed some lively and entertaining posts regarding it.

The Mellerio ruby parure is another matter! Or at least the tiara is. I agree with Janet, it looks like Christmas garland. Unfortunately there is no easy fix for it. It just looks odd and not at all regal. I do love the necklace. Its gorgeous!

The link to the peacock parure isn't working so no opinions on it (for the moment)

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Old 03-17-2008, 11:16 PM
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Marengo, that is a fabulous picture you posted! The parue works so well with that gown. I agree, it needs to re-emerge. I think Beatrix does not wear it because she is prone to headaches--
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The center stone is perfectly positioned on the Norwegian emerald tiara however I think the size is what seems too much. I thought the original tiara with the two pear shaped emeralds still in place might help the look of it but it still appears off to me. I love the craftsmanship of the tiara and, other than the center stone, it is truly lovely. As I have said before, it doesn't belong in the worst royal jewels thread but we have enjoyed some lively and entertaining posts regarding it.
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I wish I had photoshop - I have an idea for how to fix the out-of-balance issue by putting the large-pear shaped emeralds back where they were, and repositioning the diamond-shaped emeralds.

But you know, if you look at the link I posted upthread, specifically at the tiny B&W photo on the left of Queen Sofia wearing it, it looks like more than just the pear-shaped emeralds were removed - it seems as if there were oval or round emeralds toward the back that have been replaced by the honeysuckle motif. The balance of the large green stones along the top (from tall to short) seems perfect.

I think this poor tiara probably began its life as a well-balanced thing of beauty, but then was discreetly fiddled with from time to time. And it suffered for it (though I don't think it belongs in the worst jewels thread, either!).
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Some people just can't leave well enough alone! Why is it the jewels that should be dismantled and recreated are still around and the lovely ones are ripped apart? Makes no sense to me. Still if the world was full of perfect jewels we wouldn't have much to talk about here.

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This is where my incomplete knowledge of European history in general (and Norwegian history in particular) is bound to get me into trouble, but my guess is that perhaps there have been times that they've needed the money, and had to sell off bits of the jewelry. (As we've seen only recently after Princess Margaret's death, even things belonging to royals aren't immune from being sold.) The link that I'd provided made reference to the original necklace as having had seven pendants, and that there is now only one left. I'm theorizing that, rather than sell off the parure altogether, they just lost the lesser bits of it as necessary, in order to keep as much of it as they could.

Just a theory!!! I'm only hazarding a guess here.

I wish we could have seen it in its original form - it looks like a beauty.
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Old 03-19-2008, 11:16 AM
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Well, maybe they had some parts/pendants removed to make earrings, which only became fashionable late in the 19th century I believe. Dutch Queen Wilhelmina refused to wear earrings for example, she found them 'too American'. So her daughter Juliana altered several pieces of jewels after she got her hands on the goodies, remoning pendants and such to create earrings. This happened to the Dutch emerald parure for example, but maybe with other parures too (in this case the Norwegian one).

Another option would be that some pendants were given/inherited by other family members. It seemsto me rather unlikely that the Norwegians had to sell some jewels (though I am not aware of Princess Ingeborgs financial situation).
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:46 PM
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The peacock tiara didn't look too bad on Princess Irene... but the rest of the Dutch Royal Family, argh. At least the ones born into the family.
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I have to say that the Dutch ladies of the older generation have a peculiar way of wearing their tiaras...sort of like the 1960s never ended...

For the most part, I don't think the Dutch jewels are visually offensive. HOWEVER, much as I try to like it, that spikey sapphire tiara just looks gross to me...
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Old 03-28-2008, 10:32 AM
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Well said, Prince of Chota! I find some of the Dutch Jewels lovely, but for the most part they seem out-dated and don't possess a timeless quality like the BRF jewels. Of course, we have Queen Mary to thank for all of that. She had a wonderful eye. Weren't most of the Dutch parues assembled during the "Age of Oppulance" and big hairstyles? The stones are beatiful and deserve to be reworked into more timeless pieces. That sapphire tiara is a good place to begin, and the Mellerino Ruby tiara should be second!
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Personally I think the British RF has some monsters too, that can compete with the Dutch ones. Luckily for Queen Elizabeth, her grandmother went shopping with the Russian relatives, which brought some nice pieces in the collection. Wilhelmina sadly was too frugal for that and tried all she could to keep her Russian relatives from visiting The Netherlands.

Most of the Dutch collection has been made or altered from 1880 to 1900, after that date very little happened except the aquired aquamarine parure of Juliana (not succesfull on Maxima, worked very well when Juliana was older, in her white hair).
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