Unidentified, Mystery and Lost Royal Jewels

[Hans]

Originally Posted by Lonemor

Does anyone know what happened to this tiara of Queen Maud?

http://www.angelfire.com/la3/lone_mo...mondpearl.html

It would be a very nice tiara

[wymanda]

Originally Posted by Thomas Parkman

Dear Members,
As for the Queen Maud thing, was it the one they send over to Garrards to have cleaned a few years back and the thing was stolen???

This is definitley not the one that was stolen.

[Thomas Parkman]

Dear Wymanda,

I have checked with the issue of April 2005 in which the various Norweigan jewels are discussed. The tiara that was stolen was one given to the then princess Maud by her parents the Prince and Princess of Wales. it was of diamonds and pearls and a replacement copy was made. . I cannot tell how closely it resembles this tiara. Perhaps the version that has been pictured here is without the centro pearl setting, which appears could have been able to be removed. I saw no other reference to any other diamond and pearl tiara in that collection. This is indeed a mystery. Cheers.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by wymanda

This is definitley not the one that was stolen.

It is the diamond and pearl tiara often worn by Queen Sonja who was stolen. Garrards made a ciopy of it which was first worn by Queen Sonja on the State Visit to the Netherlands in the late 90's. And Princess Märtha Louise wore it in the simpler version on her wedding Day.

[Thomas Parkman]

The question, dear members, to which I do not have the answer, is are we talking about one tiara or two. The one pictured on somebody's neck above with an overdone pearl choker is gorgeous but I cannot tell whether it is the same one as worn quite often by Queen Sonja (or rather the original of which Queen Sophia wears a copy). these nitpicking details.
But then i am a librarian you know. In any case the thingie pictured above is a lovely thing indeed. Cheers.

[Sister Morphine]

They are talking about 2 different tiaras. The one that is featured on that website is a tiara that has supposedly been lost and never seen on a Norwegian royal since. And that somebody was Queen Maud....it appeared to be a mannequin likeness showing the dress and jewels she wore on her coronation.

The necklace that was stolen from Garrods appears to be one that Queen Sonja has worn and that Princess Martha-Louise has worn, albeit in a copy form.

[Prince of Chota]

Well, it is a shame that it was stolen, but may I just congratulate them on the copy! It is one of my favourite Norwegian pieces.

As for the issue of late Victorian and Edwardian English pieces, I might cite the example of the recently-sold Poltimore tiara owned by the late Princess Margaret. If you look at photographs of the original owner (Lady Poltimore) wearing it, it is quite spread out over a wide base to balance her large "Gibson Girl"-esque hairdo. For the wedding of Prss Margaret and Lord Snowdon, the tiara was placed on a much smaller base, which the princess appears to have used until the late 1970's or early 1980's, at which point the larger hairstyles of the 80's allowed her to use it in a wider format again. However, you can see from photographs of the time that the princess actually leaned the tiara backward on her head a bit to compensate for its incredibly large size. Even still, when I look at it I sometimes think it's a little bit too big...but it is so beautiful.

[Marengo]

I finally have the pictures I was looking for of Lilians (of Belgium) lost tiara's. They were provided by Hans on the Royal Jewels MB.

First a flower diademe, some thought it came from Queen Maria-Hendrika, others say only the flower came from her and other say that nothing at all was inhertited from the Queen.

Lilian wearing the tiara
picture of the tiara

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Princess Lilian owned a sketch of this tiara. It is unknown if she actually owned the tiara itself too.
sketch

Some say that this brooch might be a part of the above tiara.
brooch

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Here some pictures of Lilian with a tiara that she wore quite frequently, it is unknown what happened to it.
Lilian 1
Lilian 2
Lilian 3

[Marengo]

As posted by Laurent on the Royal Jewels MB: the sapphire tiara of Princess Louise of Belgium (daughter of Leopold II).

[Thomas Parkman]

Dear Members,

I love and adore sapphires, along of course with diamonds etc. so I am delighted when the noble Marengo has shown us yet another sapphire goodie. It is a superb little trinket. Do you know whatever happened too it.
the Ghastly Lilllian didn't get her money grubbing claws on it and sell it did she?? I cannot wonder but is the head on which this particular contraption is perched real or shaved or a stuffed trophy. While it certainly looks a lot better than many of the heads currently walking the streets, one wonders?

I am wondering if any of the members has a picture of the honeysuckle tiara of Queen Mary currently in the possesion of the wondrous Duchess of Glouchester. She insists on wearing it with that abminable kunzite, probably some gift from one of the Australian miners or some such who dug the thing up and didn't have a clue of what to do with the ugly thing and so gave it to the RF. It is nevertheless a magnificent indeed wonderful contraption. There is a version of it with a diamond and sapphire setting as the central jewel. I wonder does anybody have a picture of that. If so could you please post that picture to this tiara deprived lunatic. Cheers.

PS. I also adore chocolate and regret that they cannot wear that in tiaras too. As you can see my current state of chocolate deprivation has gone to the remnants of my head, ie brain. Cheers and cheers again.

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by Thomas Parkman

I love and adore sapphires, along of course with diamonds etc. so I am delighted when the noble Marengo has shown us yet another sapphire goodie. It is a superb little trinket. Do you know whatever happened too it.
the Ghastly Lilllian didn't get her money grubbing claws on it and sell it did she??

The tiara belonged to Princess Louise of Saxe-Coburg, nee Princess of Belgium, eldest daughter of King Leopold II. My guess is that her only surviving daughter (Duchess Dorothea of Schleswig-Holstein, nee Pss of Saxe-Coburg) inherited it or that Louise already sold the tiara during her lifetime, as she was usually in need of money. She and her two sisters (Archduchess Stephanie and Princess Clementine Napoleon) sold their mothers jewels in an auction when Leopold II died. This was much against Leopold II's wishes as in his last will he donated them to his nephew King Albert I. His three daughters however went to court and got their hands on most of Leopold II's money and jewels and thus leaving poor Queen Elisabeth with very little jewelry.

[GillW]

There is a great site you may have seen before with separate pages for the various stones:

Beryl Beryls
Kunzite Kunzite

They seem to be different classifications of stones.

[laduchesse]

I was just doing some web surfing and was looking at jeweller Fred Leighton's site when I came across pics of the Archduchess Isabelle of Austria's peridot parure.

Fred Leighton - Rare and Collectible Jewels

(Choose "Fred Leighton Collection", then "Antique Grandeur" - pics are on #10 and #11.)

Notice how the tiara is worn as a belt.

[jcbcode99]

All of those pieces were just breathtaking! I really loved that splendid three strand ruby necklace and that RIVIERE! OH MY. What a piece--what was it, 145 carats of diamonds? Amazing. Worthy of Queen Mary herself.
On the last page, the lady dressed in white with the teased out hair who was wearing the white ballgown with the peridot tiara as a belt--she reminded me of Princess Gloria of Thurn und Taxis--I wonder if she was the inspiration for the look?

[iowabelle]

Leighton has a beautiful tiara on page 3. It's just leaves. Very pretty! If anyone wants to buy me an August birthday present, give me the leaves instead of the peridots.

And I'm wondering why Leighton didn't show the peridot tiara?

[kennybob]

Originally Posted by felicia

Which tiara is Queen Marie of Romania wearing here?



I like this tiara a lot but I have not seen it in any other pictures. Does anyone know what it is called, where it comes from, where it is now, and does anyone have any other pictures of it (being worn or by itself)?

This romanian tiara might be part of the jewels taht queen Marie sent in Russia durng the first world war. She thought her jewels would be safe in St Petersbourg. Unfortunatelly all of them disapered during the 1917 Revolution

[Thomas Parkman]

Along dear people with tons of other fabulous goodies, along with an entire civilization. I refer, among other things to the Youssapov (don't believe my spelling here) treasure trove. Part of it was gotten out of the country and sold but a part was found by the Soviets and there is a famous photograph of the barbarians surrounding a table full of something live 250 brooches, thirteen tiaras no less and various loose gems. Two of the animals are on the left side with pliars and screwdrivers taking apart what look like drop dead gorgeous diamond brooches. And the tiaras are out of this world.

Then there are the Russian Crown jewels which they got rid of and which are now lost to the world. I think there is a magnificent aquamarine parure that has gone missing and its whereabouts are now unknown. Then there is the monstrosity of Imelda Marcos destroying the magnificent diamond and pearl tiara that first belonged to the wife of Nicholas I. I can never keep the names of these Russian tsarinas straight. Besides I would have to spell it too.

then of course there is the magnificent diamond and pearl tiara of Marie herself that the Bolshies, thieves that they were, promptly snatched and has never seen since. All very sad indeed. And in the service of something not only so drab and ugly but hideous beyond belief.

[Prince of Chota]

Thomas, one has to expect that these things would happen at the end of the empire. Russia wasn't exactly a land of milk and honey for the vast majority of the population, and these jewels were the symbol