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Old 10-29-2012, 07:27 AM
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Wow, thanks for the info.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:52 AM
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I'm not sure if the royal ladies wear stomachers anymore but they could take them and turn them into brooches, earrings and other jewels.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:14 AM
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As always, Artemisia, I am humbled by your knowledge!
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:36 AM
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You are all most welcome and thank you for the kind words.
Royal Jewellery is fast becoming an obsession of mine and I'm glad of any chance to talk of it.
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Old 10-29-2012, 09:49 AM
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Yes, thanks for the info. The royal jewels are exciting to talk about.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:37 AM
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Yes, thanks for the info. The royal jewels are exciting to talk about.
Couldn't agree more,especially all those long forgotten gems!
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Old 10-29-2012, 04:52 PM
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Which tiara did CP Victoria wear to the Lux wedding? I haven't seen it ID'd anywhere.
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:18 PM
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Which tiara did CP Victoria wear to the Lux wedding? I haven't seen it ID'd anywhere.
Roger Lundgren wrote at royal jewels message board that he asked the staff at the royal palace about this tiara during a meeting and they said it belongs to the same set as the napoleonic cut steel tiara .
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:58 PM
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Roger Lundgren wrote at royal jewels message board that he asked the staff at the royal palace about this tiara during a meeting and they said it belongs to the same set as the napoleonic cut steel tiara .
Sure, that's what Roger wrote, but a real cut steel 'set' does not exist; consequently, the tiara plus matching haircomb seen now can't be part of that non-existing 'set' either.
The grander Napoleonic cut steel tiara is entirely different in technical execution, design etc. -
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Royal Jewels of the World Message Board: The "new" Bernadottetiara

There seems to be no pictorial record at all of any Swedish royal lady having worn this 'new' tiara; it certainly hasn't been seen in public over the past four decades but was reportedly in the vaults all this time.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:51 PM
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Do anyone have some information about The Queen Mother's Double Meander Tiara?
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:51 PM
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I'm not sure if the royal ladies wear stomachers anymore but they could take them and turn them into brooches, earrings and other jewels.
My understanding is that it was part of the Greville bequest. I recall seeing some images in the Princess Anne threads. Warren also provides a wealth of knowledge on these sorts of things. Big grin
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:33 AM
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With 50+ jewels that were never categorised, it is indeed possible the tiara was from the Greville lot.

One thing that makes me doubt that though: I remember a picture of the Countess of Strathmore (The Queen Mother's mother) during George VI coronation and she appears to be wearing the same or very similar tiara loaned to her by her daughter. If it's the same tiara, then it couldn't be a Greville bequest, could it?
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Old 11-10-2012, 08:14 AM
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It was never confirmed that the double meander tiara really originates from the Greville request. The piece is quite a mystery: it was clearly owned by Queen Mum and she lent it to an exibition in 1961. But she never wore it in public. We believe that it was worn once by Princess Anne, but the pics of that event were so blurred that we cannot be 100% sure.

I do not believe that the Countess of Strathmore wore the double meander at the coronation. Her tiara had a rather uneven outline, whereas the double meander is very geometical and has a very even and clear outline.

It all remains quite a bit of a mystery .
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I think the tiara worn by the Countess of Strathmore looks very similar to the Double Meander Tiara. However, it has also been identified as a different tiara altogether (a bandeau), so unless there are better pictures, nothing definite could be said. I think it's pretty certain that the tiara Anne was wearing is the Double Meander one though unless there is an almost identical one in British royal jewellery vaults (which, mind you, would not surprise me).

Picture 1 - The Double Meander Tiara
Picture 2 - The tiara worn by the Countess of Strathmore for George VI's Coronation (on loan from her daughter)
Picture 3 - The tiara worn by the Princess Royal for the Chinese reception


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They do indeed look very similar- but why would the Countess borrow a tiara from her daughter? Surely there is a "Strathmore tiara" ? Curiouser and curiouser...
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If there is a Strathmore tiara would it not belong to the Strathmore family rather than the Royal Family? I've never heard of one other than the Strathmore Rose Tiara but I guess anything is possible.
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There is no reason why a Strathmore tiara would belong to the Royal Family, unless it was specifically left to the Queen Mother who, in turn, left it to Elizabeth II.

I think ldmemail meant it would be more reasonable for the Countess of Strathmore to wear a tiara from her own (or rather, her husband's) family, then borrow one from her daughter, Queen Elizabeth (the Queen Mother). I agree with that reasoning, but the tiaras do look very similar, which is why I made the suggestion in the first place.
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:57 PM
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There is no reason why a Strathmore tiara would belong to the Royal Family, unless it was specifically left to the Queen Mother who, in turn, left it to Elizabeth II.

I think ldmemail meant it would be more reasonable for the Countess of Strathmore to wear a tiara from her own (or rather, her husband's) family, then borrow one from her daughter, Queen Elizabeth (the Queen Mother). I agree with that reasoning, but the tiaras do look very similar, which is why I made the suggestion in the first place.
I think the only one which now belongs to the royal family is the Strathmore Rose Tiara,which passed into the queen's hands following the death of her mother in 2002.

The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Readers' Top 15 Tiaras: #9. The Strathmore Rose Tiara
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Do anyone recognize the tiara Queen Victoria's daughter, Princess Alice is wearing?
Tea Time at Winter Palace

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http://images.search.yahoo.com/image...mb=czh1GG5J//3

Another Picture:
http://images.search.yahoo.com/image...mb=czh1GG5J//3

Better picture of the tiara:
http://teatimeatwinterpalace.tumblr....e-hesse-family
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