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Old 10-30-2017, 12:04 AM
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It was possible because floral wreaths on your head were fashionable in the 80s. Not so much in 2000's. I cant remotely picture a bride wearing a huge wreath like Sarah did, today, and looking remotely fashionable.
Agreed. Meghan's style is very unfussy. Sleek and clean lines. Flowers big enough to cover a tiara would look very busy and fussy. Not to mention very 80's (as was said). Gotta love the 80's! I see her going with a loaner tiara.
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Old 10-30-2017, 12:29 AM
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Yes, flowers are not fashionable now and not Meghan's style at all. Maybe a dress like Victoria's would be a good fit for her (with a simpler tiara of course) - I hope she doesn't pick lace...
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Old 10-30-2017, 12:33 AM
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Yes, flowers are not fashionable now and not Meghan's style at all. Maybe a dress like Victoria's would be a good fit for her (with a simpler tiara of course) - I hope she doesn't pick lace...
Flowers are coming back in. But not in the massive style of the 80's. Smaller headband style. And for more bohemian chic kind of weddings. That kind would neither hide a tiara, nor suit a cathedral wedding. Nor suit Meghan IMO who doesn't give me a boho feel for fashion.

I agree, something like Victoria dress wise would be great. I don't see her being a swath of lace.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:46 AM
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Is there any chance she could wear the strathmore rose tiara? I know it's extremely special to HM, being her mother's, but I love it so much, especially the way the late QM wore it on her forehead. I would love to see more vintage 1920s style coming back. I think Meghan could look really beautiful wearing that tiara, especially with her hair up. But it is probably a very long shot. I just wondered if there was any chance. I hope she doesn't just get to wear the same one Kate wore. I think it would be kind of insulting to have her do anything just like Kate did. Like, that was Kate's wedding, and Meghan's wedding should be totally different. Different everything, dress, tiara, all jewels different. I think nothing, at least respecting the bride's person, should be the same.
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:53 PM
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Is there any chance she could wear the strathmore rose tiara? I know it's extremely special to HM, being her mother's, but I love it so much, especially the way the late QM wore it on her forehead. I would love to see more vintage 1920s style coming back. I think Meghan could look really beautiful wearing that tiara, especially with her hair up. But it is probably a very long shot. I just wondered if there was any chance. I hope she doesn't just get to wear the same one Kate wore. I think it would be kind of insulting to have her do anything just like Kate did. Like, that was Kate's wedding, and Meghan's wedding should be totally different. Different everything, dress, tiara, all jewels different. I think nothing, at least respecting the bride's person, should be the same.
Last heard, the Strathmore Rose was in a some disrepair. Whist nothing stops HM from having it remade, she may well choose to acquire a full parure (or a married parure) for the incoming bride, so that she does not risk any family jewels leaving the main line of the BRF.
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:57 PM
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Obviously there are traditions that carry through every wedding ceremony. That's fine and understandable. I really meant.... I know I said "different everything" but what I truly meant was "different everything" unique to the bride. I mean, I think some things like her dress, her tiara, or whatever jewelry if not a tiara, these are things that can and should be individualized. But that's just my feeling about it. It's not science.
In that I agree. Catherine wore ear rings that represented the family's new coat of arms. I am pretty sure Meghan won't borrow those. As there doesn't seem to be a 'wedding tiara' (which for example is the case in the Dutch royal family - at least for the minor princes' brides), it makes sense to offer a different one to Meghan. And I am sure she won't copy cat Catherine's gown but will choose one of her own taste. I mainly hope that they would feel free to do is they like/see fit (with the queen's approval) whether or not that has some aspects to William and Catherine's wedding. For example, she should feel free to wear her hair down even though Catherine did so (and while I prefer it up ).

Do we have pictures of her first wedding dress? This one will be more formal and her taste has evolved but it could give us some idea (or at least food for thought/speculation - she might try to avoid resemblance to that one as well).
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Old 10-30-2017, 02:19 PM
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Perhaps Meghan would prefer hair jewelry instead of a tiara?
There are some magnificent brooches in the vaults that would look spectacular!
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Old 10-30-2017, 02:38 PM
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Perhaps Meghan would prefer hair jewelry instead of a tiara?
There are some magnificent brooches in the vaults that would look spectacular!
Would that also work with a veil or would you suggest she only wears hair jewelry without a veil? I wasn't a big fan of Charlene's combination...
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:15 PM
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Perhaps Meghan would prefer hair jewelry instead of a tiara?
There are some magnificent brooches in the vaults that would look spectacular!
I'm sure that would look lovely but I confess it would be a bit disappointing. There aren't *that* tiara events, are there? It's just cool to see people who have them flaunt them whenever possible!
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:22 PM
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Perhaps -

a] The Waterfall Fringe Brooch
b] Queen Victoria's Bow Brooches
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c] The 'Williamson' Pink Diamond Rose ?
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:45 PM
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Although my own engagement ring stone is a diamond, I definitely have a preference for colored stones...aquamarine, amethyst, emerald, peridot, topaz. I'd love to see an engagement ring with a colored stone, my preference would be an amethyst but I think I remember reading somewhere that the BRF doesn't really have many amethysts. That's not to say that one couldn't be purchased for her but I definitely think either her engagement ring or tiara or maybe both will have a link to Diana. With that in mind I'd love to see the aquamarine ring given to Meghan. Amethysts are my personal favorite and would look absolutely beautiful with Meghan's skin tones but again, I don't really look for the ring to be an amethyst.

As for her tiara...I can definitely see her going with something sleek and "unfussy" possibly with an art-deco feel. The Cartier Bandeau certainly comes to mind and would be beautiful. But if I had my pick of absolutely any BRF tiara for Meghan...with that beautiful dark hair and the desire to have something a bit...different and unique...it'd be this...
The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Tiara Thursday (on a Wednesday): Queen Mary's Amethyst Tiara

I think that might be my favorite tiara ever and that purple would absolutely pop. One can dream, I suppose!
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Old 10-30-2017, 04:42 PM
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Perhaps -

a] The Waterfall Fringe Brooch
b] Queen Victoria's Bow Brooches
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c] The 'Williamson' Pink Diamond Rose ?
Even if a future wife of Harry were to choose to wear brooches in her hair in place of a tiara, I think it is highly unlikely that any of the brooches the Queen actively uses (which includes all of the above) would be lent out.
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Old 10-30-2017, 04:46 PM
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There are a lot of things you can do with your hair which involve putting jewels in them, besides wearing a tiara. Pick up any book or magazine on bridal hair and you'll see. At one time ladies used to wear lots of little pearls or diamante jewels scattered in their hair. It's particularly easy for a hairdresser to do if the hair is worn up. I myself had some dragonfly jewelled hairpins, but I didn't get to wear them ever because my hair has gone a bit thin. I do think Meghan will wear a tiara because it is a pretty big royal tradition, but for most non-royal brides there are many options, including flowers (my SIL wore a single fabric flower matching her dress for her second wedding) or fascinators. We are renewing our vows next year to celebrate 20 years of marriage, and I am wearing a cream fascinator. For our wedding I wore a tiara and veil, for our smaller church blessing I wore just a tiara, but now I don't think it's appropriate as I will be 55 when we renew. (Although it is the same guy all three times).

I have read that 'etiquette' used to dictate no white dress and no veil for second weddings, but apparently most people now agree that rule is old-fashioned. The only thing some experts still agree on is the veil covering the face shouldn't happen for second weddings. I doubt Meghan and Harry will take any notice of that though. After all Meghan is only 36, has no children, was only married for a short time in a civil ceremony, and it's a BRF wedding lol!

I think it's all down to what the bride feels comfortable wearing. In one of my true life story magazines, an 80 year old lady who'd had a cheap and cheerful wedding when she originally got hitched, had this dream of a big white wedding that she had missed out on, and for their anniversary (60 years I think it was) their children clubbed together to pay for one. Well, sweet as it is, I will probably sound horrible, but I just don't think this lady suited what she wore: a proper poofy bridal gown, veil and tiara. Imagine Camilla had worn something like that to marry Charles? The fashion critics would have had a field day! Am I being rotten to the old lady?
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Old 10-30-2017, 05:42 PM
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It would not surprise me if the Spencer Tiara made an appearance as Meghan's wedding tirara. William used Diana's ring to Kate as a way to include his mother. and Harry will want to include some reference to her as well. I know the tiara belongs to the Spencer family - but I am sure Charles Spencer would love to loan the tiara to Harry for his bride to wear on her wedding day (I think Harry would have to make the request of his uncle). I would not expect it to be a permanent loan at all - just a family heirloom from the grooms mother being borrowed and used in a family wedding. I dont think this would have been a viable option for Catherine marrying the heir, but I think with the 2nd son - a little more latitude could be made. If history is anything - the 2nd (and 3rd) son's brides have not been given high profile wedding tiaras.
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Old 10-30-2017, 05:57 PM
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Would either the Teck Crescent (apparently on loan to Camilla but she has never worn it as far as we know?!) or the Papyrus/Lotus tiara (that was most recently worn by Catherine but already had it's debute as a wedding tiara at the wedding of Viscount Linley and Serena Stanhope) be an option - if they would go for an existing tiara? Both are relatively small which seems fitting for her position in the family - I like the Papyrus/Lotus one slightly better as it seems to fit better with her style.
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Old 10-30-2017, 06:01 PM
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It would not surprise me if the Spencer Tiara made an appearance as Meghan's wedding tirara. William used Diana's ring to Kate as a way to include his mother. and Harry will want to include some reference to her as well. I know the tiara belongs to the Spencer family - but I am sure Charles Spencer would love to loan the tiara to Harry for his bride to wear on her wedding day (I think Harry would have to make the request of his uncle). I would not expect it to be a permanent loan at all - just a family heirloom from the grooms mother being borrowed and used in a family wedding. I dont think this would have been a viable option for Catherine marrying the heir, but I think with the 2nd son - a little more latitude could be made. If history is anything - the 2nd (and 3rd) son's brides have not been given high profile wedding tiaras.
The only reason Diana was able to wear the Spencer tiara for her wedding was because she was the daughter of Earl Spencer who actually owned the tiara at the time. The Spencer tiara now rightfully belongs to Diana's brother, Charles and the only females that would wear it would be the Earl's wife and perhaps the Earl's daughters when they marry. I just don't see Harry borrowing it for his wedding at all. If anything is loaned, it will be a loan from the Queen herself or there will be a tiara made up especially for Harry's bride that will remain with her throughout her marriage.

Harry is part owner of all of Diana's personal jewelry that included Diana's engagement ring which William used. If a new tiara is made, its possible that some of the stones from their inheritance could be used for Harry's bride but I would wager that the chances of the Spencer tiara making an appearance is very, very slim.

We'll just have to wait and see.
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:59 PM
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Couldn't Lord Spencer loan the Spencer tiara to her ? Aren't there actually two Spencer tiaras? The one everyone knows, and another one I think.

But I would rather that she doesn't wear anything that is too obviously Diana. I mean, I guess if that's what she and Harry want, ok, but.... meh.

The more I think about it, the more I think the tiara kate wore (at wedding) would look really good on Meghan.... She's very petite so I think something not too overbearing....
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There are two Spencer tiaras but one is rather ugly IMHO and the other is very well known. I don't believe that a Spencer tiara will be used but rather Harry's wife will use an existing one from the collection or will be gifted one.

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Yes because ultimately Harry's descendants will one day no longer be considered a part of the BRF main line much like we see happening with the Gloucester and Kent descendants of George V. This tiara would be able to remain with their family for future use.
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Old 10-30-2017, 11:46 PM
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I'm hoping she is loaned one from the BRF vaults as Kate was....not the same one, although it would like good on her, something that will fit her style/dress.

We've discussed this a lot over in this thread:

Tiaras and Jewels for Prince Harry's future wife

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Old 10-31-2017, 12:30 AM
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The Strathmore Rose is a beautiful piece but no one has seen it in decades. It might be in the BRF vaults either intact or dismantled.

Yes I agree that it would be impossible to avoid all similarities unless they opt something far from the BRF norm such as a wedding in a circus tent in the middle of a grassy field with the couple in matching plaid jumpsuits with only their pets as their attendants.
I understand that rumors are that The Strathmore Rose Tiara is very sentimental, but may not be in the best condition for current wearing. The Queen's tiara broke on her wedding day. Get a jeweler to alter the tiara enough to be wearable. They have officials jewelers to the crown. Enough time sitting in a vault.

There will always be comparisons between Catherine and Meghan whether they are fair or not.
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