Tiaras and Jewels for Prince Harry's future wife

[Pranter]

Or if Harry has one made from existing stones in his personal possession paid for privately ...that is not going to raise objections.


LaRae

[Abbigail]

Originally Posted by HRHHermione

I can't see a new tiara happening because the cost would attract attention and because there's really no need- there are so many tiaras in the collection going unused or hardly used.

When Sarah married in and got a new tiara, Margaret and the Queen Mother were both still alive and wearing their tiaras and so was Diana. Plus the expense didn't raise eyebrows the way it would now.

You make a good point about there being so many tiaras going unused. I would love to see HM be a little more generous in what she loans out. If she were, then I'd be all for Meghan wearing somehing from the vault. I just wouldn't want another Sophie situation, where the bride is stuck with something wholly unflattering.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by wyevale

If Prince Harry were to buy his wife a Tiara as a Wedding present, NO criticism would be made...

But traditionally, it's a gift given by the monarch right? Well, by tradition I mean HMQ paid for Fergie and Sohpie's tiaras.

[wyevale]

That is correct, but 'times change'...[as this putative marriage shows]...People are FAR more critical in these times of austerity and a gift from a groom to his bride is absolutely beyond criticism...

[Pranter]

Hmmm but those were son's wives. Perhaps it would be Charles paying for Meghan's instead...if not Harry.


LaRae

[Queen Claude]

I think that Harry's wife will follow the pattern established by Sophie. She will wear a tiara from the royal collection for her wedding and wear that tiara for a while and then switch to another royal collection tiara. Somewhere along the way we may see her wear a loaner tiara or privately acquired a tiara both of which Sophie has done.

Charles is a very generous man and likes to see the women in his circle well turned out, so I can see Charles purchasing a blingy parure with tiara for Harry's wife but maybe not out the gate since it may not be clear if Harry's wife will be a tiara-phile. I can still see Charles gifting a blingy parure as a wedding gift but the parure will not include a tiara.

One other scenario could be a rich friend gifting a tiara / tiara parure.

[Pranter]

I thought Sophie had a new tiara for her wedding...not one from the BRF collection.


LaRae

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by wyevale

That is correct, but 'times change'...[as this putative marriage shows]...People are FAR more critical in these times of austerity and a gift from a groom to his bride is absolutely beyond criticism...

Sounds like to me it's a no win situation. If HMQ and Prince Phillip do gift her a new tiara, it'd be criticized they spent lavishly while people are suffering. If they don't and Harry does it, there will be chatter about how HMQ didn't approve of the union even though she had to formally give consent. They might as well just do whatever they want if that's the case.

And speaking of tiaras, if she were to get a new one, I think I finally realized something that would be perfect fit for Meghan. Something like the Modern Fringe the Swedish royal family has would look great on her. It has an element of classic fringe, but modern twist. It's formal enough, yet softer than the traditional fringe. I think that just sums up Meghan.

[Queen Claude]

Originally Posted by Pranter

I thought Sophie had a new tiara for her wedding...not one from the BRF collection.


LaRae

Sophie's wedding tiara was from the royal collection. It was new in the sense that it had not been worn in that form before, but it is believed to have been re-purposed from jewels belonging to Queen Victoria.

http://orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/...ing-tiara.html

[Pranter]

Ah okay..I thought it was a new design, created for Sophie.


LaRae

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Queen Claude

I think that Harry's wife will follow the pattern established by Sophie. She will wear a tiara from the royal collection for her wedding and wear that tiara for a while and then switch to another royal collection tiara. Somewhere along the way we may see her wear a loaner tiara or privately acquired a tiara both of which Sophie has done.

What's the difference between a loaner and a tiara from the royal collection? Are they the same thing?

[Mirabel]

Originally Posted by Queen Claude

I think that Harry's wife will follow the pattern established by Sophie. She will wear a tiara from the royal collection for her wedding and wear that tiara for a while and then switch to another royal collection tiara. Somewhere along the way we may see her wear a loaner tiara or privately acquired a tiara both of which Sophie has done.

Charles is a very generous man and likes to see the women in his circle well turned out, so I can see Charles purchasing a blingy parure with tiara for Harry's wife but maybe not out the gate since it may not be clear if Harry's wife will be a tiara-phile. I can still see Charles gifting a blingy parure as a wedding gift but the parure will not include a tiara.

One other scenario could be a rich friend gifting a tiara / tiara parure.

What tiara did Sophie acquire privately?
As far as I know, she only has two: the wedding one cobbled together from pieces in the Royal Collection, and the Five Aquamarine.

Is there another?

Charles might gift a tiara to Harry's wife; he is know to have representatives at various auctions to purchase jewelry, so he might even buy something that way.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

Sounds like to me it's a no win situation. If HMQ and Prince Phillip do gift her a new tiara, it'd be criticized they spent lavishly while people are suffering. If they don't and Harry does it, there will be chatter about how HMQ didn't approve of the union even though she had to formally give consent. They might as well just do whatever they want if that's the case.

And speaking of tiaras, if she were to get a new one, I think I finally realized something that would be perfect fit for Meghan. Something like the Modern Fringe the Swedish royal family has would look great on her. It has an element of classic fringe, but modern twist. It's formal enough, yet softer than the traditional fringe. I think that just sums up Meghan.

I dont think the Queen or Prince Charles acquiring some jewellery,including a tiara for Harry's wife will attract material criticism. Some will whine, but those will whine at pretty much anything. Camilla has acquired quite a lot of new jewellery in the last 12 years without much criticism.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Mirabel

Charles might gift a tiara to Harry's wife; he is know to have representatives at various auctions to purchase jewelry, so he might even buy something that way.

I will say, that's one of the reasons why, now that Charles has sorted out his personal life, he's becoming one of my favorite royals. He got great appreciation for fine jewels.

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Mirabel

What tiara did Sophie acquire privately?
As far as I know, she only has two: the wedding one cobbled together from pieces in the Royal Collection, and the Five Aquamarine.

Is there another?

Charles might gift a tiara to Harry's wife; he is know to have representatives at various auctions to purchase jewelry, so he might even buy something that way.

Sophie does have a diamond and aquamarine tiara that can also be worn as a necklace. This first appeared around 2005. She recently wore it in Sweden for one of the weddings (CP & Sofia, if I am not mistaken).

[Countessmeout]

Originally Posted by Mirabel

What tiara did Sophie acquire privately?
As far as I know, she only has two: the wedding one cobbled together from pieces in the Royal Collection, and the Five Aquamarine.

Is there another?

Charles might gift a tiara to Harry's wife; he is know to have representatives at various auctions to purchase jewelry, so he might even buy something that way.

Sophie has three. Her wedding, the five aquamarine, and the aquamarine necklace tiara

The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Tiara Thursday (on a Friday): The Wessex Aquamarine Necklace Tiara

http://theroyalpost.com/2012/10/24/a...ra-for-sophie/

She has also worn a fourth tiara. But it has only been seen once, and is believed likely to have simply been a loan from a jeweler. Not acquired. Though there was some speculation the tiara actually belonged to Philip's mother.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/a6...e7ff7e79d3.jpg

[Queen Claude]

Originally Posted by jacqui24

What's the difference between a loaner and a tiara from the royal collection? Are they the same thing?

Some may refer to a tiara from the royal collection as a loaner but I was referring to the tiara that Sophie wore to an event related to Frederik and Mary of Denmark's wedding. That tiara is believed to be a loan from a jeweler. x

Originally Posted by Mirabel

What tiara did Sophie acquire privately?
As far as I know, she only has two: the wedding one cobbled together from pieces in the Royal Collection, and the Five Aquamarine.

Is there another?

Charles might gift a tiara to Harry's wife; he is know to have representatives at various auctions to purchase jewelry, so he might even buy something that way.

Sophie has worn four tiaras:
- Her wedding tiara from the royal collection;
- Button tiara believed to be a loan from a jeweler;
- Aquamarine tiara from the royal collection;
- Aquamarine necklace tiara believed to be an acquisition.


Just an opinion, I can believe that Charles would gift his daughter-in-law with a nice tiara but I don't think it will be a wedding gift, more than likely it will come later.

[Abbigail]

I'm not sure why he wouldn't gift her one for her wedding? If the Queen's offerings are slim or said future daughter-in-law had something else in mind, I think he would happily purchase a tiara for her.

[jacqui24]

Originally Posted by Abbigail

I'm not sure why he wouldn't gift her one for her wedding? If the Queen's offerings are slim or said future daughter-in-law had something else in mind, I think he would happily purchase a tiara for her.

The thing is I wish the Queen would just open up the vault and start loaning some of the bandeau and smaller fringe pieces. If we don't see them on Kate and Harry's future wife in the next few years, we probably won't until Charlotte is old enough.

[Abbigail]

I agree. I get why she doesn't just give away jewels but I'm not seeing why she isn't more generous in loaning out tiaras or other pieces. Perhaps she thinks royal spouses need to earn them but if that were case, I'd think Sophie would have at least one nicer/grander tiara by now.