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Old 06-02-2010, 01:00 PM
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Thank you for your timely correction, a slip of the keyboard! It was sold to HM The Queen Mother by the Poltimore family. I think people like a little glitz in their life and would enjoy seeing HM The Queen wearing any of her magnificent tiaras at public evening receptions should it be appropriate.
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Old 06-02-2010, 01:35 PM
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I believe the Poltimore Tiara was auctioned off with the rest of Princess Margarets things by Lord Linley. I think it was bought by someone in Hong Kong, so I'm afraid the Royal Family won't be able to auction it off for charity
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Old 06-02-2010, 01:45 PM
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Yes it was sold in the Christies auction.
I do not think it should have been sold.

I know it wasn't a family heirloom, but if it didn't suit either Serena or Sarah, could it not have been sold into the family? As well as the Queen Mary jewels that were sold.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:54 PM
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Unfortunately, the Queen has this very strict policy of not buying family jewels , since she considers that her branch of the family has many already. I ve seen the lot in Christies ' website and you are right they should keep their more historical pieces. When I saw that there was even auctioned a diamond pendant that belonged to Queen Mary I though that they could at least keep something like this which was not so expensive in the first place. Speaking of Queen Mary , I ve read that there are still many smaller pieces that belonged to her in the famous "vaults" that were never used befcause they were old fashioned. I just hope that the family will use them eventually and not let them be discovered again by archaiologists in the remote futute.
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Old 06-02-2010, 03:56 PM
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What vaults?? Can you enlighten Russo? She LOVES a good treasure hunt!!
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:02 PM
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Sure Russo! I ve read long ago in a magazine that inside those famous vaults where the Queen keeps her jewellery there are many small pieces that belonged to Queen Alexandra and Queen Mary but where never used by QEII because those from Queen Alexandra are mostly paste and Queen Mary's were outdated ( chokers etc) and not very wearable. If that's true I hope that someone will pity these poor diamonds who are collecting dust and use them in the near future.
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:14 PM
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Oh all royal families have vaults full of treasures Russo, shall we organise a treaure hunt?

I know but she allowed the selling of the tiara that her sister wore on her wedding day and some jewels that were stunning that were worn by a woman that had a big impact on Elizabeths life, surely she should have made an exception.
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:22 PM
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I agree with Lumut, they should have been saved. Thanks Snow for the info. I suppose if they TOLD us where these vaults were they'd have thieves crawling all over them. However! It DOES whet the appetite for a treasure hunt!
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...there are many small pieces that belonged to Queen Alexandra and Queen Mary...
Let's leave off the "small pieces" and just state MANY pieces. There is a treasure trove of VERY serious jewellery securely stored in the vaults beneath Buckingham Palace which belonged to Queen Mary and more recently the Queen Mother. We get rare glimpses (the Delhi Durbar circlet, Princess Anne's mystery tiara from late 2005*) but most haven't seen the light of day for decades.

If there is one thing the Queen doesn't need it's more tiaras. It has been estimated elsewhere that she has upwards of thirty to choose from.

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Old 06-02-2010, 06:03 PM
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You always have the BEST pieces of juicy gossip Warren!
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:25 PM
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If they don't want to wear them, they could lend some of the pieces to me I don't mind if they are not "trendy".

About the topic of the post, I'm sorry that the events for wearing a tiara has been reduced to very formal galas.
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If they don't want to wear them, they could lend some of the pieces to me I don't mind if they are not "trendy".

About the topic of the post, I'm sorry that the events for wearing a tiara has been reduced to very formal galas.
I agree with you 150%%%% would not mind to use one! aand what a pity only formal events!!!!!
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Old 06-03-2010, 02:07 PM
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Ostentatious or not my personal experience of Continental rather than British practice is that if you receive a private invitation, where it states gala, or half-gala, where the host/hostess are of princely status, male guests will wear white tie and tails with orders and decorations, females, if they have them, will attend with tiara - an attenuated one if the lady is unmarried. If the invitation states black tie or informal then no tiaras. The rule isn't arbritary. It is good manners to observe the hosts designation of gala or informal.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:40 AM
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Let's leave off the "small pieces" and just state MANY pieces. There is a treasure trove of VERY serious jewellery securely stored in the vaults beneath Buckingham Palace which belonged to Queen Mary and more recently the Queen Mother. We get rare glimpses (the Delhi Durbar circlet, Princess Anne's mystery tiara from late 2005*) but most haven't seen the light of day for decades.

If there is one thing the Queen doesn't need it's more tiaras. It has been estimated elsewhere that she has upwards of thirty to choose from.

* see here
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Sigh!!!...Why, if she has so many piece, did Sarah receive a newly bought tiara for her wedding? Why did Sophie get that strange wedding tiara and then a brand new aquamarine tiara? Why did she have to borrow a tiara for pre-wedding once?
Don't get me wrong, Sarahs tiara and the aquamarine tiara are really nice pieces. But I would have prefered HM to buy back some historc family piece rather than buying new tiaras without family connections. I don't really understand HM policy in this respect.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:58 PM
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Maybe there was an economy drive at the palace and the new pieces were on "special offer" at Hatton Garden. Tiaras are often loaned to various members of the same family.
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I was always wondering that most of the tiaras you can see which are on selling are gold with silver - so between 1850 and 1900 roughly.
Why are not much more platinum tiaras seen - as they have been fashionable beginning of last century till around 1930 - when tiaras seemed to be coming out of fashion.
Anybody some ideas?
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Old 07-11-2010, 09:13 AM
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The Platinum Today website gives a short history of the use of platinum. While this metal had been used in jewellery-making for some time it wasn't until the Edwardian and Art Deco periods that jewellers such as Cartier and Tiffany developed the tradition.

The Gillett's Jewellers website has an excellent comparison between gold, silver, platinum etc called "What you need to know about jewellery metals". Platinum is (and has always been) very expensive, for example a platinum ring will be double the price of an 18 carat white gold ring.
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Old 07-11-2010, 02:42 PM
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Dear Warren, thanks a lort for your comment - maybe I was not clear enough with my question.
I know the history of platinum very well - as I am a special fan of this precious metal. My question was more like - why are no platinum tiaras on sale? There seems to be quite a lot of antique gold and silver tiaras on the market - so why no platinum. Have there been so much less platinum tiaras created - in comparison? Hope my question was more clear this time.
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Old 07-11-2010, 03:00 PM
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You partly gave the answer in your original post - platinum indeed became fashionable in a time period when tiaras became less fashionable. Today, platinum is considered to be attractive as well as valuable. Modern cut highly sparkling stones certainly make an interesting contrast to the metal, but platinum was not always considered to be esthetically appealing.
Back in the late 18th century and all through the early 20th centrury, the time when most tiaras were made, the stones held in them, especially diamonds, were rose cut or old mine cut. They did not have the brilliance of modern cut diamonds, and the dull surface of platinum would have done nothing to to bring out and enhance the stones' sparkle.
That's why in most antique tiaras, silver was used in the visible setting of stones for the effect of multiplying the stones' glitter, and gold was used in order to create a tiara's necessarily sturdy frame and structure.
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Old 10-26-2010, 04:18 AM
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So maybe we should start a new thread - with contemporary tiaras - made from platinum.
Starting with the one of CP Letizia
Royal Jewels of the World Message Board: First photo of princess Letizia's new diadem

...and also adding Infanta Elenas ....if it is really a contemporary piece?
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