Tiara history, traditions, protocols, metals and meanings - Page 6

espejor · #**101** 07-24-2009, 10:32 AM

How much money does usually a tiara cost? 100.000 euros maybe? A medium tiara with diamond, for example

Regards!

magnik · #**102** 07-24-2009, 10:45 AM

It depend of that whoand where made it, materials.
For example the cheapest tiara from Bentley&Skinner's site cost Ł12750.
Bentley & Skinner

Lumutqueen · #**103** 08-03-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyK

In Scandinavia, Crown Princesses Mette-Marit and Mary were both given "new" (new to them) tiaras on their wedding days. They also received other tiaras. MM was given/lent the amethyst tiara, and Mary was given/lent Queen Ingrid's Ruby Parure (bequethed to Frederik upon the Queen's death, it was to be used by his wife; however, upon their death it reverts to the crown)

Could Prince Frederik bequeath it to his daughter Princess Isabella?

crownprincessrhey · #**104** 11-01-2009, 10:11 AM

i wonder how much a tiara costs these days if they will have a new one made?

magnik · #**105** 11-01-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by crownprincessrhey

i wonder how much a tiara costs these days if they will have a new one made?

About new tiara... All depend of materials - platinum, silver or gold and stones/carats,
or it will be converted as necklace/braclet or from necklace/braclet to tiara... And of course of the jeweler.
So we have it between $ few thousand to $ 250000 or more like fex. Mikimoto tiara for Miss Universe.

snowflower · #**106** 01-15-2010, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lumutqueen

Could Prince Frederik bequeath it to his daughter Princess Isabella?

I don't think this is possible. You see, the parure was made for the first Bernadotte queen, Desiree. When Lovisa of Sweden got married to Frederick VII, her parents gave it to her because of its danish colours. At that time there were no jewels available for the Crownprincess in Denmark, so that's why she got it. Since then I believe it has been reserved for the Crownprincess to use it. So , after Christian gets married, it will be worn by his wife.

mellie · #**107** 01-15-2010, 10:16 PM

What about queen Ingrid? She continued to wear the ruby parrure when she became queen and didn't give it to the then crown princess Margarethe to use at all.
I think this set is queen Ingrid's and she gave it to P Frederick after her death. The same with her other jeweleries that she divided among her 3 daughters.

4Pam · #**108** 01-15-2010, 10:17 PM

^^^ Is that also the reason why Mary only has 2 tiaras to choose from? The Danes not having any jewels for their CP's...

mellie · #**109** 01-15-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Pam

^^^ Is that also the reason why Mary only has 2 tiaras to choose from? The Danes not having any jewels for their CP's...

No, I think Margarethe when she was Crown princess, had a lot more tiaras to wear than Mary at the moment. Afterall she was a princess by birth. Mary didn't have any of her own when she became CP so maybe that the reason she's a bit short of tiaras. Maybe because we are seeing more commoners become princess.

Tilia C. · #**110** 01-18-2010, 11:02 AM

When Queen Ingrid married into the Danish royal family she received the ruby parure as a wedding present from her parents–in-law. So it was her personal property and she chose to bequeath it to her grandson Frederik. So now it is his personal property and he can do with it what he wants. He could bequeath it to his daughter, but I don’t think he will. I hope that such an important piece of royal heritage will stay in the main line of the family. So it might go to Christian or even Christian’s eldest child.

Lumutqueen · #**111** 01-18-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Pam

^^^ Is that also the reason why Mary only has 2 tiaras to choose from? The Danes not having any jewels for their CP's...

They have quite a few, but Margrethe wears a few and I don't think she "shares"

Mary has only worn the parue, the midnight tiara and her wedding one.
I hope Frederik bequeaths it to Isabella, or Mary has some more created.
But I suppose when it reverts back to the crown, Isabella can wear it.

Next Star · #**112** 01-26-2010, 02:21 AM

True there are not many jewels as they used to be because as it has been mention commoners have been marrying within royal and noble houses.
Nice if the jewels were lent to different members of the family one tiara or crown not the same one show some varity of once.

snowflower · #**113** 02-02-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mellie

What about queen Ingrid? She continued to wear the ruby parrure when she became queen and didn't give it to the then crown princess Margarethe to use at all.
I think this set is queen Ingrid's and she gave it to P Frederick after her death. The same with her other jeweleries that she divided among her 3 daughters.

Yes you are right. I searched the matter a little further and I noticed that although the parure was indeed used by the crownprincess, it didn't came automatically to her , but each crownprincess got it as a personal gift from her in laws and then she, in her turn gave it to her daughter in law . Maybe that's why Queen Ingrid kept using the parure and didn't gave it to Margrethe bacause she wanted to stick to tradition and give it to the next crownprincess who would marry into the family. that would be of course Frederik's wife and maybe that's why she left it directly to him.

**Stefan** · #**114** 02-02-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by snowflower

Yes you are right. I searched the matter a little further and I noticed that although the parure was indeed used by the crownprincess, it didn't came automatically to her , but each crownprincess got it as a personal gift from her in laws and then she, in her turn gave it to her daughter in law . Maybe that's why Queen Ingrid kept using the parure and didn't gave it to Margrethe bacause she wanted to stick to tradition and give it to the next crownprincess who would marry into the family. that would be of course Frederik's wife and maybe that's why she left it directly to him.

I think there are 2 reasons: First Margrethe was never the Crown princess. She was the heiress presumptive. And second because after Margrethe succeeded she got all the other major pieces from the Jewellry box and Ingrid only continued to use the Khedive tiara. If she had given the ruby Parure to Margrethe she would only had the Khedive.

Catherine Helvin · #**115** 04-27-2010, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by crownprincessrhey

i wonder how much a tiara costs these days if they will have a new one made?

I'd guess hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of pounds!

snowflower · #**116** 04-30-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Pam

^^^ Is that also the reason why Mary only has 2 tiaras to choose from? The Danes not having any jewels for their CP's...

Well, the isn't a foundation from which all the member of the family could borrow( the Foundation that exists is only for the Queen I believe) and the last Danish Queens weren't very " generous " with their jewels when it came to giving gifts to crownprincesses .Louise kept her jewels to herself and Lovisa used her own tiaras. Louise in her turn gave to Alexandrine only the ruby tiara at first and after a few years the rest of the parure and Alexandrine only gave to Ingrid the Ruby parure I think. This wasn't a problem when the crownprincesses were princesses by birth and had their own tiaras from their families but nowadays, this could lead to very few personal jewels.

snowflower · #**117** 04-30-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by marmi

I dont mind small elegant ones (such Mette Marit's perhaps) on princesses (by birth) over 18, but certainly not big dazzlers!
Not til at least 21

I agree that a certain size is apropriate for a certain age. For example, when I see pictures of Anne Marie in her youth wearing the large emerald tiara I find it somehow wrong - I mean there is this young teen face and on top of that a large russian - style tiara with big cabochon..... It seems too much.

Hereditary Thane · #**118** 06-01-2010, 10:19 AM

The British tradition (rule) is being discarded slowly. The convention was that on state occasions, state visits, and public events such as evening receptions, theatre visits, full gala was de rigueur. In recent years HM The Queen has disappointed many by turning up without the glitz gear. At private evening events tiaras are not worn, though males may well appear in tails with orders and decorations. There is the problem also of which tiaras are state property and which are private. The Baltimore tiara bought by the late Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother for Princess Margaret is now valued at ten times its purchase price. If the present royal ladies don't think tiaras appropriate or fashionable perhaps they could auction them to raise funds for charitable causes.

Lumutqueen · #**119** 06-01-2010, 10:28 AM

I'm sorry but Queen Elizabeth wears a Tiara when appropriate. To wear a tiara for a private dinner is just ostentatious.
All female members where tiaras on state visits, certain theatre events if listed as a public event.