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Old 07-31-2017, 03:46 AM
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I was not suggesting that stones be taken from existing royal jewels to be substituted in the tiaras but new ones acquired. The necklaces and earrings should remain intact as they, along with the tiaras, can make excellent "married Parures " in sapphires, rubies or turquoise, as the case might be.
BUt there are some pieces which design is not the most elegant and are out of date like for example the bird ruby necklace of Queen Sofia (from which Queen Letizia has worn the earrings in Japan). Why not break up peaces lkike this and make a new ruby necklace or use it to improve the niarchios ruby by bandeau.
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:03 AM
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BUt there are some pieces which design is not the most elegant and are out of date like for example the bird ruby necklace of Queen Sofia (from which Queen Letizia has worn the earrings in Japan). Why not break up peaces lkike this and make a new ruby necklace or use it to improve the niarchios ruby by bandeau.
That is certainly a possibility.
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Old 07-31-2017, 04:35 AM
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I think there are many 'dated' jewels in the SRF and lots of them quite bulky what looks good on Sofia due to her face shape and hairstyle but not on Letizia who has a puristic style anyway. Those type of jewels may look good on Leonor though who has a similar face shape as her grandmother.

Not sure the SRF will invest much time or money in transforming jewels although it seems a good idea!
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I think there are many 'dated' jewels in the SRF and lots of them quite bulky what looks good on Sofia due to her face shape and hairstyle but not on Letizia who has a puristic style anyway. Those type of jewels may look good on Leonor though who has a similar face shape as her grandmother.

Not sure the SRF will invest much time or money in transforming jewels although it seems a good idea!
I suspect time will tell. A lot will depend on what does eventually end up with Letizia, and what goes to Elena and Christina
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Old 08-01-2017, 12:06 PM
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How pleased you appear to be Duc_et_Pair, in painting HMQ as a 'cheapskate' !

It plays SO well to your [noted] prejudices..
In my post I noted that I can not imagine Queen Elizabeth II "just" giving a picture of herself. So it is not me painting Her Brittanic Majesty down as a re-incarnation of Ebenezer Scrooge. It is up to you and others to show that she is as generous as other heads of state and indeed answers gifts in reciprocity.
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Old 08-01-2017, 12:56 PM
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It should be easys to replace the pearls in the Cartier diamond and pearl tiara with other stones as this was occasionally done by Queen Ena with emeralds. . Unfortunately she had to sell the emeralds which she used for this during the years of her exile.
My understanding is that Ena herself had the pearls fixed in the tiara and they are not removable any more.

Instead of changing historic tiaras I've read suggestions online of making new ones with bracelets/necklaces from their stash of modern and not very pretty jewels

They can not receive jewelry or expensive gifts any more from foreign RFs or officials, but I'm sure there are many pieces waiting for the spotlight in Zarzuela
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:48 PM
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Instead of changing historic tiaras I've read suggestions online of making new ones with bracelets/necklaces from their stash of modern and not very pretty jewels

They can not receive jewelry or expensive gifts any more from foreign RFs or officials, but I'm sure there are many pieces waiting for the spotlight in Zarzuela
Is it known if all the modern Jewels which where most likely gifts from the arabis rulers etc. are personal Property of Queen Sofia/Queen Letizia or is there a solution like in the UK that they are State Property but in the usage of the one who was gifted them. If the later is the case it could be that they are not allowed to have mayor chagnes at them or break them up to make new jewels.

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My understanding is that Ena herself had the pearls fixed in the tiara and they are not removable any more.
As far as i rember Queen Ena wore it in the emerald Version quiet late in her life. Wasn't it for the wedding celebrations of JC and Sofia?
I don't mean a permanent change but simple make it versatil so that the pearls can be replaced with other stones like for example in Queen Fabiola's spanish Wedding gift tiara.
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They can not receive jewelry or expensive gifts any more from foreign RFs or officials, but I'm sure there are many pieces waiting for the spotlight in Zarzuela
What do you mean when you say that they "cannot receive jewelry gifts from foreign RFs or officials" ? Are you sayng that any gift they receive automatically becomes state property rather than private property, or do you mean that they are literally barred from even accepting any such gift in the first place ?
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I don't mean a permanent change but simple make it versatil so that the pearls can be replaced with other stones like for example in Queen Fabiola's spanish Wedding gift tiara.
I agree, the idea would be to make the stones in the tiara interchangeable.
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I think Queen letizia or King Felipe should buy some Aquamarine stones or/and pink tourmalines for the new "Ansorena" Tiara. I would be nice if she could switch between several stones, like Sonja and her modern gold Tiara,



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I think Queen letizia or King Felipe should buy some Aquamarine stones or/and pink tourmalines for the new "Ansorena" Tiara. I would be nice if she could switch between several stones, like Sonja and her modern gold Tiara,



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Letizia is not very creative on the jewel front I doubt that would even cross her mind and would probably be a waste of the kings money
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Letizia is not very creative on the jewel front I doubt that would even cross her mind and would probably be a waste of the kings money

Yes i know .. I wounder Princess Leonor will receive an own Tiara, I have read Ansorena will make a new Tiara for her.. I just hope a better one then Letizia´s
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They could also make the pearls in the Cartier diamond and pearl (from Victoria Eugenia) interchangable. Queen Victoria Eugenia used to change them with emeralds but sadly she had to sell them at some point.

But sadly Queen Letizia deosn't seem to have much Interest in the Family Jewels as she only needs the bigger peaces if she has to and then also the minimum.
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Yes i know .. I wounder Princess Leonor will receive an own Tiara, I have read Ansorena will make a new Tiara for her.. I just hope a better one then Letizia´s

And then it will take years if she starts wo wear it. I have heard rumours that Letizia was gifted a tiara for her Wedding which was not worn so far.
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Yes i know .. I wounder Princess Leonor will receive an own Tiara, I have read Ansorena will make a new Tiara for her.. I just hope a better one then Letizia´s
That tiara is perfect as a starter tiara but its not what I would consider a queens tiara and would be ideal for Leonor/Sofia in a few years.
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They could also make the pearls in the Cartier diamond and pearl (from Victoria Eugenia) interchangable. Queen Victoria Eugenia used to change them with emeralds but sadly she had to sell them at some point.

But sadly Queen Letizia deosn't seem to have much Interest in the Family Jewels as she only needs the bigger peaces if she has to and then also the minimum.

Yes its a shame Q.VE sold them. I ve read she sold them for paying the wedding of JC and Sofia. The Cartier Tiara would be lovely with Sapphires or Emeralds, every coloured Stone would be nice i guess.. Tbh im suprised Q.Sofia/K.JC never bought some coloured stones.. But it seems also Q.Sofia wasnt a great jewel lover, Just in her younger years she changed between her jewels. later it was mostly the same
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And then it will take years if she starts wo wear it. I have heard rumours that Letizia was gifted a tiara for her Wedding which was not worn so far.

Yes ive heard that too but i think that just rumours. its a shame we do not see all wedding gifts on a table like in the past.
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That tiara is perfect as a starter tiara but its not what I would consider a queens tiara and would be ideal for Leonor/Sofia in a few years.

Yes i agree.. i dont think we will see that Tiara very often on Q.Letizia.
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This would be again a diamond Tiara without coloured stones but i think they could make a Bandeau like the dutch Diamond Bandeau. Sofia owns two Diamond Collet necklaces and Letizia the joyas the pasar.

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