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View Poll Results: Which tiara will Meghan Markle wear on her wedding day?
Cartier Halo Scroll Tiara 4 3.01%
Girls of Great Britain and Ireland Tiara 5 3.76%
Papyrus Tiara 10 7.52%
Queen Mary's Filigree Bandeau 5 3.76%
Queen Mary's Fringe Tiara 3 2.26%
Queen Mary's Lover's Knot Tiara 6 4.51%
Queen Mary's Lozenge Bandeau 25 18.80%
Queen Mary's Sapphire Bandeau 2 1.50%
Strathmore Rose Tiara 19 14.29%
Teck Crescent Tiara 11 8.27%
Other tiara with a royal connection, please specify 5 3.76%
Tiara created from other royal jewels (e.g. a converted necklace), please specify 8 6.02%
Antique tiara acquired for her 6 4.51%
New tiara created for her 15 11.28%
No tiara at all (brooches, hair pins, flowers etc.) 9 6.77%
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:47 AM
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Well, she's marrying third down the line of succession, and she's an American. Can't imagine she's going to get better treatment than the current Duchess is, particularly given the past history of Americans marrying into the royal family, ahem. She wants a very simple dress (not a bad one, mind), and the jewelry will undoubtedly be selected to complement. Perhaps the Lozenge or Sapphire Bandeau, but I suspect that's dependent on the particular emotional attachments those pieces have acquired, and whether they're already 'spoken for' which I can't speak to since I don't follow lnniving monarchs so much as I do long dead ones.

If a new one is to be made up it will almost certainly be by an American firm. Can't let an opportunity to reinforce the Special Relationship pass by, particularly when its as strained as it is, oy vey. Probably Tiffany & Co., or Harry Winston.
Sorry, an american co. No, it is a royal wedding. The Bride is American and that is the most Important thing. If anything, maybe the gown could have an american designer(but, that is a big IF). Being that meghan is wearing all kinds of designers.
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Old 12-28-2017, 10:50 AM
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No way will the designer for the dress be American. Maybe the after party dress but not the wedding dress.


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Old 12-28-2017, 11:32 AM
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Not even her engagement dress was by American designer, or engagement sweater as a matter of fact, I highly doubt her wedding dress would be.

I can't see any American jeweler making the tiara. In fact, I don't see anyone other than Cleave and Co.
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Old 12-28-2017, 11:39 AM
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I really hope they just find an old classic tiara being sold and snap it up if they decide to not go with loaning her one of the existing ones in the vaults.


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Old 12-28-2017, 03:35 PM
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I wonder if there's any of Queen Alexandra's tiaras tucked away in a vault somewhere that could be reworked or reinvented for Meghan to use?
Which of Queen Alexandra's tiaras might there be?
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Old 12-28-2017, 03:47 PM
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The only tiaras I am aware of, beyond her fringe, were the Rundell (which while other pieces of the collection are still in use, the tiara no longer exists), an amethyst tiara and a sapphire tiara (both which seemed to have passed to granddaughters out of the mainline and were sold in auction).
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Old 12-28-2017, 03:50 PM
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Cyril here is an link where you can see some of the family tiaras:

More British Royal Tiaras - The Tudors Wiki
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Old 12-28-2017, 03:53 PM
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The only tiaras I am aware of, beyond her fringe, were the Rundell (which while other pieces of the collection are still in use, the tiara no longer exists), an amethyst tiara and a sapphire tiara (both which seemed to have passed to granddaughters out of the mainline and were sold in auction).
That one made by Garrard, called a Kokoshnick is one associated with Queen Alexandra...


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Old 12-28-2017, 04:04 PM
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That one made by Garrard, called a Kokoshnick is one associated with Queen Alexandra...


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Its what I was referring to when I said 'beyond the fringe' as to me it seems more fringe then kokoshnik. I guess I should have used a better term.

I just meant beyond the 'known' tiaras that are currently in use. The original OP suggested there may be some of Alexandra's tiaras in the vault that haven't been seen in decades. the Kokoshnik/fringe doesn't meet that requirement.
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:10 PM
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I can't even find other tiaras associated with Alexandra besides this one?


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Old 12-28-2017, 04:24 PM
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I can't even find other tiaras associated with Alexandra besides this one?


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The ones I mentioned, a sapphire one and an amethyst one (sapphire seemed to have been a collette actually but was put on a base at some point), and the Rundell were wedding gifts to Alexandra. That is why I can find a link to them. But they seemed to have passed to junior branches and eventually auctioned. The Rundell we only know doesn't exist anymore because of a book on the queen's jewels that was done.

It just seems perhaps posters think since Alexandra was considered a bit of a magpie when it came to jewels, she had other pieces???
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Old 12-28-2017, 04:51 PM
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Yeah maybe so (magpie) but at her death she must of either left them to family who later disposed of them or gotten rid of them before her death...I'm guessing most of them were left to family and later disposed of.



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Old 12-28-2017, 09:29 PM
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Yeah maybe so (magpie) but at her death she must of either left them to family who later disposed of them or gotten rid of them before her death...I'm guessing most of them were left to family and later disposed of.



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Most of her pieces were said to be left to Mary, including her wedding gifts. But many of them ended up with other grandchildren, and saw the auction block. There may be some unseen Alexandra jewels in the queen's collection, but any tiaras I have never heard of but the ones I mentioned. I guess maybe one of her necklaces could be transformed.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:53 AM
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Everyone keeps talking about the Lozenge Tiara yet no royal lady has agreed to wear it for many decades. It's not that special. It's a mutt. Just a graceless bandeau of clumsily arranged diamonds.

It's a barker! Move on and select something with more elan.


Like what?

I have only seen images of the Lozenge and it looked amazing. I have never seen it up close to see the clumsily arranged diamonds. Do you have a link to an image showing this? I would like to see it.
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Old 12-29-2017, 12:57 AM
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https://royal-magazin.de/england/queen-mary-tiara.htm Scroll down, Margaret is wearing it.

This is no clumsily arranged diamond tiara. It's gorgeous.


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Old 12-29-2017, 01:01 AM
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I really hope they just find an old classic tiara being sold and snap it up if they decide to not go with loaning her one of the existing ones in the vaults.


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Agreed but unfortunately with the current political climate, I can't imagine that the tax payers will be cool be with an American Divorcee getting a bejewelled headpiece for her wedding...even if it is being funded by the Duchy of Cornwall and not the taxpayers.
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Old 12-29-2017, 01:04 AM
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IMO the most likely (and probably smartest) situation is for Meghan to wear one of the tiaras in the vaults. They Royals only have 3 or 4 tiara events a year ...she doesn't *need* a tiara and as their future descendants pass out of even being royal what are they going to need a tiara for?


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Old 12-29-2017, 01:11 AM
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Agreed but unfortunately with the current political climate, I can't imagine that the tax payers will be cool be with an American Divorcee getting a bejewelled headpiece for her wedding...even if it is being funded by the Duchy of Cornwall and not the taxpayers.
I disagree. Should she get a new, bejeweled tiara (even one with stones with provenance), it will be seen as a gift to the newest member of the British royal family. Once she says "I will", she is no longer a divorcee and will be a senior member of the British royal family and be expected to work for the UK and the "Firm".

Politics have absolutely nothing to do with it.
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IMO the most likely (and probably smartest) situation is for Meghan to wear one of the tiaras in the vaults. They Royals only have 3 or 4 tiara events a year ...she doesn't *need* a tiara and as their future descendants pass out of even being royal what are they going to need a tiara for?


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The only descendents likely to need ones would be their kids possibly. And a daughter could easily be loaned one by their uncle or cousin. Their grandchildren and on are not likely to ever attend an event. Wearing a tiara for a wedding is not reason enough to buy a new piece.
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Old 12-29-2017, 02:54 AM
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Agreed but unfortunately with the current political climate, I can't imagine that the tax payers will be cool be with an American Divorcee getting a bejewelled headpiece for her wedding...even if it is being funded by the Duchy of Cornwall and not the taxpayers.
While I completely welcome a new piece, realistically I don't think taxpayers would be happy to see any newly purchased tiaras appear on any ladies' head, unless it's a gift from certain society (e.g. Anne's Festoon, or Mathilde's Laurel Wreath), but I doubt that it would happen in UK.

(btw I think even the money from Cornwall is also from taxpayers? I'm not sure about that.)
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