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Old 04-04-2008, 06:03 AM
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i might be difficult, but IMO the jewels belong back to India...
Why? They were gifts of no "official" significance to India.
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Old 04-06-2008, 02:54 PM
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was just my opinion... Britain has enough jewels...
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Old 04-06-2008, 04:21 PM
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No, no, dear Lady, Britain does not have enough jewels. Nobody, even Imperial Russia, had enough jewels. The more jewels the merrier. Besides a major complaint, albeit a trivial one, is that Queen Elizabeth wears only a small number of the tiaras and other wondrous and toothsome objects in her most royal possession and leaves other delights just shut away in the cold, dark, dank and dreary vaults which are supposedly under Buckingham Palace. If some kind soul would send me the directions I would fly over to Londan and rent a room on the ground floor near the Palace and buy a shovel on the order of the Red Haired League of Conan Doyle and dig away. After all what she does not use she could not possibly miss. And I could then post pictures of these unloved goodies on the RF. But nobody ever has enough jewels. And diamonds are everybody's best friend. Cheers.
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Old 04-29-2008, 06:29 PM
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Art treasures, and similarly jewels, are some of the best ambassadors a country has. The Anglo-Indian jewels were GIVEN to the British royal family, and accordingly there is no need to return them. Besides, at least someone is wearing them. If they were returned, they'd just be gathering dust in some Delhi museum, like the Napoleonic jewels in the Smithsonian in the United States.
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Stolen Jewels

It is sad that I have to say this, but I would think that it should have been understood and done long time ago! Most of the British and Persian Jewels are stolen diamonds and goods from india and its temples (for ex: Darya-e-noor, kohinoor, the hope diamond, etc), I and many indians personally feel that it should be returned. < ed Warren >
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i am gussing that princess christina of sweden jewllery theft can include in this thread.
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There was an argument between the Swedish king and his uncle Prince Sigvard regarding a ruby tiara that Sigvard felt belonged to him.
This is how I have understood the conflict. Sigvard needed money when he married and lost his title and sold most of the jewels he had inherited from his mother. The diadem however he pawned by his father in hope that he later would be able to pay back the loan. The king understood it as if he had bought the tiara but he let his son borrow it sometimes for his wife to wear. When the king died he left the tiara to Sigvard's son who later soled it to king Carl Gustav. Sigvard thought the transaction was wrong since he and not his son was the owner of the diadem.
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In Matriarch, Anne Edwards wrote: The Queen had heard through a Lady-in-Waiting that for Christmas he (Edward) had given Mrs. Simpson jewels valued at over 50,000 pounds, including several pieces that had been in the Royal Family for generations.

This Christmas was in 1935. Is this true that Prince Edward gave Wallis any Royal Jewels?
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:49 AM
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In Matriarch, Anne Edwards wrote: The Queen had heard through a Lady-in-Waiting that for Christmas he (Edward) had given Mrs. Simpson jewels valued at over 50,000 pounds, including several pieces that had been in the Royal Family for generations.

This Christmas was in 1935. Is this true that Prince Edward gave Wallis any Royal Jewels?
Maybe someone told Queen Mary this back in the 1930s but history has not borne this out. Edward did lavish Wallis with jewels both before and after the abdication, but he purchased them from jewelers. If he gave her any jewels from the royal vaults, and I recall reading something like that, IMO it was not several and I doubt if the jewels went back generations. A possibility is that Edward was gifted jewels on one of his tours and those jewels were incorporated into gifts for Wallis.
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What about loose stones that had been deposited in the vaults, jewels like diamonds from various tours made by past Kings, loose gemstones, pearls, presented to Queen Victoria and so on?
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From what I can see in pictures of the Duchess of Windsor with jewels, it are all contemporary pieces by contemporary firms. The Duchess had an avantgardistic taste in jewels which is hardly detectable in the current British collection.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:42 AM
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What about loose stones that had been deposited in the vaults, jewels like diamonds from various tours made by past Kings, loose gemstones, pearls, presented to Queen Victoria and so on?
I think that it is possible that he could have nicked a loose stone or two, but just not to the order of magnitude being described. I don't think that Edward could have raided the coffers prior to becoming King, come on can you really imagine Mary of Teck allowing that! The story that someone told Queen Mary may have been true, but I doubt if Edward VIII actually had the access to the jewels in order to commit the offense.

Also if the Duchess had pieces that had Victorian or other connections, I think that would have come out, her jewels often had their own biographies.
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No, no, dear Lady, Britain does not have enough jewels. Nobody, even Imperial Russia, had enough jewels. The more jewels the merrier. Besides a major complaint, albeit a trivial one, is that Queen Elizabeth wears only a small number of the tiaras and other wondrous and toothsome objects in her most royal possession and leaves other delights just shut away in the cold, dark, dank and dreary vaults which are supposedly under Buckingham Palace. If some kind soul would send me the directions I would fly over to Londan and rent a room on the ground floor near the Palace and buy a shovel on the order of the Red Haired League of Conan Doyle and dig away. After all what she does not use she could not possibly miss. And I could then post pictures of these unloved goodies on the RF. But nobody ever has enough jewels. And diamonds are everybody's best friend. Cheers.
Agreed! Well said.
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