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Old 09-27-2006, 10:35 PM
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Whats the difference between a diadem and a tiara.
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:58 PM
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Does anybody know how tiaras came about? (Warren?)... What was their mane ahem main, purpose? And how did they evolve to such elegance, what w/ diamonds and other precious stones. My concentrations in college were History and Anthropology so drawing on what I learned then my only logical deduction is that they started as a means of conspicous consumption i.e look at my wealth. However I could be waaay off on this one so i would appreciate some input!
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:23 AM
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Does anybody know how tiaras came about? What was their mane ahem main, purpose? And how did they evolve to such elegance, what w/ diamonds and other precious stones.
Mr Munn's bible "Tiaras a History of Splendour" gives the rundown. In short, they are symbols of status and/or designations of rank, going back to ancient times and various civilisations. What was once a plain laurel wreath is now a diamond-encrusted gem. In the Court of Louis XIV fantasy and extravagence ruled, and the fashionable outrageous piled-high hair styles of that time and later were the ideal stage-setting for extensive decoration. Fashion, wealth and the desire to display status combined with the development of specialised craftsmen with an eye for design have given us the wonderful works of art (and less successful pieces) we admire today.

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Whats the difference between a diadem and a tiara.
A very broad definition, here. The terms may be interchangeable, for example the Papal tiara is not a "tiara" as we understand the word today.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:59 PM
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So I was finally able to get my hands on Tiaras: A History of Splendour, by Geoffrey C. Munn, and I'd thought I would share some of my favorites from the book. Of course I won't be putting my all time favorite, the Fife Tiara, because I think we've all seen that one a lot, but anyways...

1. "The diamond-set tiara given by Queen Victoria to Princess Alice as a wedding present in 1862."
2. "A diadem set with shell cameos, said to have belonged to Empress Josephine."
3. "An impressive diadem in the Indian taste set with diamonds, sapphires and pearls." (Owned by The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester)
4. "An aquamarine and diamond kokoshnik, c. 1900. It was said to have been the personal property of the Tsarina Alexander."
5. "A Fabergé diadem set with brilliant- and rose-cut diamonds arranged in the form of forget-me-not flowers and trials of stylized laurels emblematic of the Triumph of Love."
6. "The sapphire and diamond kokoshnik made by Cartier in 1909 for Grand Duchess Vladimir."
7. "The sunburst tiara set with 577 brilliant diamonds and many more rose-cut stones, made by Cartier, Paris, for the Tysckiewicz family in August 1921.






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Tiaras: A History of Splendour
By Geoffrey C. Munn
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Old 10-11-2006, 05:58 AM
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Wonderful tiaras, thank you very much!
I love this one: "A Fabergé diadem set with brilliant- and rose-cut diamonds arranged in the form of forget-me-not flowers and trials of stylized laurels emblematic of the Triumph of Love."
Just wondering- where are these tiaras now?
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Old 10-11-2006, 06:18 AM
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Whats the difference between a diadem and a tiara.
I stick to the word 'diademe'.

A tiara namely is the ornamental crown which was worn by Popes until 1978 and ancient kings.

The word diademe means 'ornamental headband' and that is exactly what ladies wear in their hairdo. For some reasom 'tiara' is popular in English while it generally is called 'Diadem' (in German), 'Diadéme' (in French) or 'Diadeem' (in Dutch)
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Old 10-11-2006, 07:02 AM
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Here are some more of my favorites from the book:

1. "The diamond and turquoise tiara made by R. & S. Garrard, c. 1900. In the lore of precious stones the turquoise stands for love, and the message is endorsed in this beautiful jewel that incorporates the lamps of love, triumphal laurels and true-loveers' knots."
2. The Londonderry tiara, entirely set with diamonds in silver settings on gold mount."
3. "A tiara of rock crystal engraved with arabesques in the Old Russian taste. The panels lapidary work are mounted in platinum and decorated with three ornaments of rose and brilliant-cut diamonds."
4. "The tiara of platinum, rock crystal and diamonds made in 1911 sold by Cartier to Prince Youssoupov for his bride in January 1914."
5. "The Nur ul-Ain diamonds tiara made for the Iranian crown jewels by Harry Winton using old-cut colored diamonds that are mainly of Iranian origin."




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Tiaras: A History of Splendour
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Old 10-11-2006, 02:30 PM
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Thank you Acid Rain, do you know if this one is still in the family or if it was sold? It's beautiful.

1. "The diamond-set tiara given by Queen Victoria to Princess Alice as a wedding present in 1862."

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Old 10-11-2006, 08:04 PM
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Thank you Acid Rain, do you know if this one is still in the family or if it was sold? It's beautiful.

1. "The diamond-set tiara given by Queen Victoria to Princess Alice as a wedding present in 1862."

Well, according to the book it's still owned by Princess Alice's family.

As for the others. These are owned by...

Post One
1. Hessian House Foundation (Hessische Hausstiftung)
2. Musée d'art et de Histoire, Musée Massena, Nice
3. The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester
4. Current location Unknown
5. In Private Collection
6. No Idea
7. In Private Collection

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1. In the book it says this is owned by H.R.H. The Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon, but clearly she has passed on since after the publication of this book. I suppose it has gone on be either owned by Viscount Linley or her daughter Lady Sarah Chatto (is that right?).
2. The Most Hon. The Marquss of Londonderry
3. In Private Collection
4. No Idea
5. No idea for this one too

Source: Geoffrey C. Munn - Tiaras: A History of Splendor
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Old 11-08-2006, 07:33 AM
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I hope this isn't a repeat but I am so excited. I have never seen this HQ picture of the Spencer tiara before. This has always been my favorite. I love all diamond tiaras. I wish it could belong to the Windsor vaults instead of the Spencer ones. It would be awesome if Diana's grandchildren and further descendents could wear it. What Countess Spencer could be so worthy? But I have never seen it so large or with so much detail as this.
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:23 AM
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Thank you for picture CasiraghiTrio!
Its wonderful view on this tiara, I just wonder why we don't have all tiaras in so perfect pictures
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Here's links to my choices:

Spanish Floral Tiara
Jewels worn by Members of the Spanish Royal Family

King Faisel of Saudi Arabia necklace, owned by QEII
Queen Elizabeth II Tiaras & Necklaces 1: Nov 2005-Nov 2007

Crown Princess Mary's wedding earrings
http://pro.corbis.com/images/DWF15-7...-15ec1930ccd9}

Cullinan Brooche
Queen Elizabeth II - Brooches 1: December 2003-October 2009

Princess Diana's Engagement Ring
Diana, Princess Of Wales Jewellery 1



Please post your favorites too!!!!!
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Old 11-16-2006, 02:20 PM
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This tiara is so lovely!
http://www.royal-magazin.de/russia/a...aquamarine.htm
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Wow! This is a truely unique tirara. Oh how I hope that somehwere, somehow, this has survived. It is one of the truely exceptional tiaras that I have seen. :w00t2: :w00t2:
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Old 11-23-2006, 01:03 AM
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ok, I found it
It's photoshopped tiara originally created by reynard, winter tiara: Photoshopping Royal Tiaras and Jewels 1 (to Feb 2007)
I will post more tiaras later. Now I have to leave
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Old 11-23-2006, 01:16 AM
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I never noticed the additions to it!!!! I just remembered the main part of the tiara. Thank you so much!!!
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Old 11-26-2006, 08:29 PM
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Well, reynard came up with one humdinger of a tiara. I had never really paid much attention to it earlier and had not noticed the diamonds. What are those yellow stones in it? Are they by any chance yellow diamonds??? If they are I suppose they are right up there after blue diamonds, pink diamonds and then yellow in the order of value. but it is a lovely contraption indeed, even without the pearl addition but that addition certainly greatly enhances it.

And while I am drooling I must express my gratitude to Mims III for the aquamarine parure, a masterpiece. It is so beautiful it is almost painful to look at it, especially when you think of the history behind it. If only Nicholas had just been a bit luckier and the Brits had sunk a sizeable chunk of the German navy at Jutland-which they would have done if they had had decent ammuniton-we might all be drooling today over the empress of his descendent sitting of the Russian Imperial throne. I would imagine a lot of Russians looking back over the last hundred years might even wish the same thing too. Cheers.
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yeah, now just imagine what it must be like to see them in person, much less wear them! sigh. dream. wish.
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This is surely my favourite tiara

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/conte..._feature.shtml
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Dear Banda

May I suggest that you go into deepest grief. The nitwit money grubbing Viscount Linley (no doubt I shall be banned for this) sold off this priceless family heirloom supposedly to pay for death duties. He got some five times from the total auction the sum needed to pay the taxes and there was great public outrage at least in some quarters. This magnificent tiara is now stuck off in some oil sheik or whatnot's bank vault never to be seen again.

I could skin the BRF, including Queens Mary, Queen Mum and ERII for not setting up a foundation to keep all of this massive jewelry collection intact and for the use of the Royal Family. These jewels are part of the heritage and dignity of the whole British nation. But I should stop. This is a hot button topic for me. I just cannot help but wonder how people can be so short sighted. Yes Linley got that blasted money, or at least what was left of it after the taxes, but it will all be gone in a few years and then what? And at what price. Cheers.
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