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Old 11-27-2012, 03:39 PM
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Most of The Queen's collection is her private property, however, she certainly is likely to designate pieces as belonging to the Crown to be worn in right of it, just as Queen Mary did.

Whether those pieces then become inseparable from the Crown legally or if it's just a statement of intent to preserve them for future Queens is unknown.
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She is likely to do so, but that hadn't been done yet so the Queen is free to distribute her personal jewellery collection in any way she pleases, although it is almost certain most of it will be inherited by the next Sovereign.
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i am honestly upset over the tiaras issue between diana and camilla. i think diana should have been able to use more tiaras. if not given to her at least barrow them. i am sure that the royal family has plenty of tiaras to go around. queen mary own many tiaras and wasnt as cheap with the jewels as her granddaughter is
Diana didn't seem to complain about this lack of tiaras and jewels so I don't understand why it bothers anyone else. She always looked stunning and regal with the tiaras that were at her disposal and the modifications of necklace/choker as head band.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:49 PM
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If she was still hear today, most likely she would've changed her jewels up a bit.
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Old 04-21-2013, 12:18 AM
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Diana didn't seem to complain about this lack of tiaras and jewels so I don't understand why it bothers anyone else. She always looked stunning and regal with the tiaras that were at her disposal and the modifications of necklace/choker as head band.
I agree, it does seem odd to get worked up about what jewels a woman who died 15 years ago did or did not wear or have access to.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:09 AM
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Queen Alexandra died without a will. Her jewels were divided up by George V and Queen Mary, who gave some pieces to Princesses Victoria and Louise, but the majority were for the royal collection as they were either wedding gifts from Queen Victoria and Edward VII, or from civic bodies honouring her as Princess of Wales.
There is an update about HM Queen Alexandra dying intestate on the royal sartorial website. This explains that QA did leave directions about the dispersal of her jewels. Which is ow Princess Victoria ended up with the "rundell tiara" even though the rest of the parue is still in the possession of HM the Queen.

IMO this doesn't make any sense to me, why break up a beautiful parue, and now the tiara is Gone.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:57 AM
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Well it wasn't a 'matching' parure - the tiara was all diamonds in a Greek style. The necklace, brooch and earrings are in diamonds and pearls.
Queen Alexandra didn't even appear to wear it very often in the latter years of her life.
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Hahahaha! Well put. My mother has those sentiments exactly! And they have not abated over time. In fact they get worse when she views any photograph of Camila wearing royal jewels Diana once wore.

Her reaction is priceless!
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Hahahaha! Well put. My mother has those sentiments exactly! And they have not abated over time. In fact they get worse when she views any photograph of Camila wearing royal jewels Diana once wore.

Her reaction is priceless!
I was not aware that Camilla has worn any of the royal jewels Diana once wore. There was a squabble about the POW Feather Brooch, but it turned out there is more than one. Anything else?
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I was not aware that Camilla has worn any of the royal jewels Diana once wore. There was a squabble about the POW Feather Brooch, but it turned out there is more than one. Anything else?
Oh dear, I would't have a clue. I guess I will have to remember to ask my Mum when I next visit her. She probably has the photos!!
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I think it speaks for Camilla that she avoids to wear jewels connected to the late Diana. Not that this is too difficult anyway. The previous Princess of Wales had only one diadem from the royal family (the remake of the Cambridge Lovers' Knot Diadem) and the rest were almost all personal bijoux which went to her sons. The other diadem was owned by her brother, the Earl. It is not that Camilla opens a drawer and sees a lot of cassettes: "Oh dear, I can not wear this, and this also not, and that, and over there was worn by her as well..."
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Didn't the Sultan of Oman and other Middle Eastern monarchs give Diana fabulous jewellery at the time of her wedding and later in the 1980's during visits with the Prince of Wales? I believe these included parures.

Also I think the Queen Mother gave her several pieces as wedding gifts including a diamond pendant that belonged to Alexandra, and was worn suspended from a pearl choker. Not that it matters, as Diana had no daughters, so these gifts won't leave the royal family.

Nevertheless, it would be interesting to know if these parures are in Charles's possession, his sons, or in the royal vaults. If it's the first or the last then they are available to Camilla.
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Old 09-13-2015, 05:29 AM
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If they were wedding gifts the boys have them. It is only relatively recently that overseas gifts had to be reported, but I don't see that relating to wedding gifts which are personal in nature.

Either way, if it was gifted to Diana then the boys have them or their father has them in safekeeping for them. He would never give them to Camilla and she would never wear them.
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The bulk of the estate of the late Diana went to her sons. I think most of these jewels will pop up at Prince Harry's future spouse. This because Catherine, the future Duchess of Cornwall and Rothesay, the future Princess of Wales, the future Queen, automatically gets access to all the fabulous jewels. Prince Harry's spouse will not have that access.

What will happen to Camilla's jewels, tja... she has received a fabulous collection in these 10 years and maybe these will go to her stedaughters-in-law too, as they have the most use of these eyecatching pieces.
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What will happen to Camilla's jewels, tja... she has received a fabulous collection in these 10 years and maybe these will go to her stedaughters-in-law too, as they have the most use of these eyecatching pieces.
Gifts received will end up being part of the Royal Collection, or where appropriate, to the wives of William and Harry. Privately purchased jewels (like her chokers) may end up with her children.
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It depends on how the gift is given:


If the gift is given on an official visit then it will end up in the royal collection but if it is given for a personal reason then it is private property e.g. say they visited the Middle East as representatives of the Queen and were given a jewellery collection there that collection would end up in the Royal collection. If that same King sent Camilla a private birthday present of a similar set of jewellery it is Camilla's and up to her where it ends up.


The same with gifts given from crowds while on tours - the gifts given by ordinary people are able to be given away and don't have to be recorded but a gift given officially has to be recorded and can't be given away e.g. the wombat George was given by the Australian GG has to be kept and recorded but gifts given by people in the crowd can be given away, thrown away etc.
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Didn't the Sultan of Oman and other Middle Eastern monarchs give Diana fabulous jewellery at the time of her wedding and later in the 1980's during visits with the Prince of Wales? I believe these included parures.

Also I think the Queen Mother gave her several pieces as wedding gifts including a diamond pendant that belonged to Alexandra, and was worn suspended from a pearl choker. Not that it matters, as Diana had no daughters, so these gifts won't leave the royal family.

Nevertheless, it would be interesting to know if these parures are in Charles's possession, his sons, or in the royal vaults. If it's the first or the last then they are available to Camilla.
I believe you are correct. There was a sapphire watch which was part of one wedding gift, photographed very rarely I believe and then allegedly broken down and transformed into another piece of jewellery and the necklace and earrings with the crescent shape. I believe the jewellery went to The Crown and/or her sons upon her death.
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I think that is the one of the gems my Mom mentioned. At least I remember her mentioning that Diana wore it on her neck and Camila as a broach.

And here it is:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/201...l?ir=Australia

And then there is the tiara:
On camilla
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/527061962611974634/
On Diana
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...la-tiaras.html
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I think that is the one of the gems my Mom mentioned. At least I remember her mentioning that Diana wore it on her neck and Camila as a broach.

And here it is:
Is Camilla, Duchess Of Cornwall, Wearing Princess Diana's Pendant? (PHOTOS, POLL)


But it's a different PoW feathers brooch. I think there were a few of them.

I don't think there's any chance Camilla would ever wear the same piece of jewellery that Diana wore.
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Old 09-13-2015, 09:52 AM
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It certainly looks like she wore the same tiara at least. And I am seeing it in a lot of Diana's official portraits over the years!

Tacky really, considering how many others are available for use.
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