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In every church in Sweden (Church of Sweden) there is one or many bridal crowns, and you can borrow one for your wedding for free… The oldest of these bridal crowns are huge, for example the Kings sister princess Margaretha wore the bridal crown of Gärdslösa kyrka when she got married:
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That is one hell of a crown. Uglier than the Cameo.
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I dont know if this has been posted but here is a smalll photo of the Connaught worn with a veil. I think its worn by Princess Christina. |
Thats a beautiful picture. I hope she wears the Connaught. 
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I know many of you dont like the cameo tiara very much...
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What a wonderful account of this significance of crowns in Swedish marriage ceremonies! Thank you so much for sharing!
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Wow, thank you so much for the Swedish Wedding Crown account (i love the crochet circlets), for I had no prior knowledge of this. That is why I love TRF, so many good resources and poster with knowledge of their royals, and countries traditions. You have my appreciation......
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12-13-2009, 01:48 PM
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I love how the Church of Sweden continues this tradition and heritage. I imagine many daughters have been able to wear the same crowns as their mother.
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12-13-2009, 04:39 PM
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This account of traditional Swedish wedding crowns might really explain why the cameo tiara has so often been chosen as a wedding tiara. I still think that the Connaught tiara would look better on a bride, but think that Victoria will choose the cameo tiara. After all, monarchy is all about tradition, the cameo is the oldest tiara of the collection and her mother has worn it for her wedding. I just hope that she will find the right dress and hairstyle to go with it.
Still, both the cameo and the Connaught tiara's did not appear at the noble festivities. These two are the hottest contenders and I wonder if they will both stay in the vault till the big day comes, in order to keep us in the dark.
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12-14-2009, 12:49 PM
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Just want to make this clear: Not many brides today are using the old bridal crown from the churches. They are of course still avilable for use, but they are big and heavy and not popular at all. Some of the yonger, small ones are used, but most of the brides today goes for flowers, a small tiara och noting but really nice hair... 
But I was really tempted to borrow one of the old ones, but I used my mothers crochet crown instead to honor my grandmother who made it and who died shortly before I got married.... and I was a winter bride so it was v beautiful with a white crown...looked like a snowqueen 
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12-16-2009, 03:27 PM
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That is Queen Sophia's diamond tiara, also called nine prongs tiara. It is definitely a nice tiara, but the Queen has worn it so often lately, that it not very likely that it would be used for the wedding.
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I have to say, even though it would suit her well, I have never liked this tiara. It looks octopus-like to me. Call me crazy, maybe I am.
I would still love to see a button tiara for her wedding, but I guess it's going to be the Cameo. Although I do remember hearing somewhere that PRrncess Lilian had promised Victoria her tiara, so maybe that one? The double tier one?
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I do like the Nine Prong tiara, which goes back to Queen Sofia and the 1870s. 'Octopus' is funny, but the tiara rather is too beautiful to deserve the nickname, IMO. Queen Silvia used to share it with Princess Lilian in the 1970s but it has become one of her favorites since, and I don't see it being worn by CP Victoria for the wedding.
The 'double tier one' is the diamond laurel wreath tiara, inherited by Prince Bertil from his mother Crown Princess Margaret, and it's Princess Lilian's personal property. I very much doubt that it's among the possible wedding tiaras.
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I have to say, even though it would suit her well, I have never liked this tiara. It looks octopus-like to me. Call me crazy, maybe I am.
I would still love to see a button tiara for her wedding, but I guess it's going to be the Cameo. Although I do remember hearing somewhere that PRrncess Lilian had promised Victoria her tiara, so maybe that one? The double tier one?
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I read somewhere that Prince Bertil's will left the double tier tiara to Prince Carl Philip after Princess Lillian's death.
The will also stipulate that his and Lillan's home Villa Solbacken will go to CP.
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I used not to be a fan of the nine-prong until I saw it properly photographed. The problem with diamonds is that in photographs they usually appear flat, lifeless and dull. But when the camera manages to capture the flash and sparkle of refracted light ("scintillation") they are transformed.
I can post this pic directly as it's been cropped from a much larger image and is therefore not subject to the picture-posting restrictions we currently have in place.
It demonstrates what a difference the right camera shot can make. Imagine how it would look in real life when the diamonds would be flashing light with every movement, however slight, of the wearer's head. Scintillating indeed!
The Nine-Prong Tiara putting on a show:
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Here is a video where you can watch it (the nine prong) "live"
in focus at 0.36-0.47 and then in picture at 1.09 - 1.29 and finally at 1.55-2.16
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Very interesting to red all the comments of the either Cameo Tiara haters or supporters.
I am a Cameo Supporter, because of 3 reasons:
1) the obvious one is, that Victoria is marrying on the same day as her mother and thus will continue a nice tradition (even if THIS tradition is not yet that old)...
2) Victoria is "able" to wear substancial pieces.... best examples are the Cut Steel Tiara and the 6 Button Tiara.... that´s why I am convinced, that she would look phantastic in the Cameo Tiara
3) I really like the Connaught Tiara -- and I would live to see Victoria wearing it after her wedding. But NOT for the wedding itself -- because the tiara is too delicate for the massive veil. And I am 100% sure, that she will wear her mother´s veil. So looking at the pics of Pss Christina again and again I did not like her wedding headware at all!
BTW, extremly interesting, the story with Q Silvias Veil and Dior -- I have never heard that before, many thanks for sharing..... what a drama, I would have gone mad, if I may have found that out directly prior to my wedding... and then even a King´s wedding....
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I am definitely not a fan of the Cameo tiara, full stop! However, the wretched thing is so OTT and frou frou it even manages to overpower the historic wedding veil that everyone seems sure Victoria will wear.
Great heavens! Look what happen to her mother! The tiara and veil walked up the aisle, she disappeared under the magnificence of it all and to add insult to injury, the dress was a total non-event. I have seen more intricate Nuns Habit's than Queen Sofia's wedding dress. Ugh!
There is however one more historical point of interest. This is the wedding of the Bernadotte Heir, not the spouse to be. CP Victoria will be a Queen in her own right and somehow the "traditions" relating to former princesses and Crown Princesses who wore the Cameo and veil on their wedding day just don't seem right. Madeline could easily follow that tradition, but not Victoria.
This is a brave new world and one day Victoria will be Queen of Sweden. It seems right that she should set a precedent, it is, after all her one and only grand event, the coronation being more of an affirmation and a political transfer of power.
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Hi, Marg,
so what do you think, she will wear????
For a future Queen-to-be the Connaught Tiara could be too small? A large one like the Nine Prong? You are not thinking of the Braganza, no?
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So finally we don't know. However I like the idea of Victoria setting her own tradition as future queen of Sweden. She will for sure wear something traditional - the veil? - but otherwise -she should choose the most beautiful tiara she can think of for her special day. To look like a real queen.
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Do you think there is any chance there might be a new "Victoria" tiara that will premiere at the wedding?
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Is there a difference between a tiara and a crown?
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