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Old 04-15-2005, 12:42 AM
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Hey--everyone should be able to afford four nannies!
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Old 04-15-2005, 12:22 PM
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There really isn't much to think of her is what I believe. Some may percieve her to be a spoiled person, who happens to get whatever she wants in life. But that's just a fact that most of us are going to have to deal with, though Marie-Chantal may lead a charmed life, I'm sure that she suffers from many problems that it brings, and it isn't so perfect, because nothing ever is.

Marie-Chantal does do charity work, as many of you misunderstand, one of the organizations she's helped set up include the Pavlos and Marie-Chantal Foundation, which helps underpriviledged children. She's also the mother to 4 beautiful children, and though she may seem to be in the aid of nannies all the time, I wouldn't blame her. Taking care of 4 children on your own is not an easy thing to do, especially children who are so close in age. She has the financial capability of hiring nannies to help her with this job, so why shouldn't see? I absolutely see no fault in that.

Besides, though some of you may say that her children are taken care of by nannies 24/7, it doesn't mean she doesn't love them. I was taken care of by nannies round the clock and I'm close to my mother as ever. Children are smart cookies, they know how to differentiate between their natural mothers and though they may form a close bond with their nanny, their mother will always be the one they go running to at the end of the day. I know that was the case for me.
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Old 04-15-2005, 04:11 PM
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I think Her Highness is a very hard working woman as well!The fact that she attented the best schools,helps her to catch up with all the affairs of her family and to keep our royal Prince happy!!
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Old 04-15-2005, 04:36 PM
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Best schools? I think she attended a very undemanding school, and never attended college, did she?
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Old 04-16-2005, 02:54 AM
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Best schools? I think she attended a very undemanding school, and never attended college, did she?
She attended the Peak School for Primary School in Hong Kong, Le Rosey for her High School education and studied Art History in New York and in Paris (i believe)

I would agree that they are expensive schools, but that doesn't mean that they are not the best schools. Take for example, many percieve Le Rosey to be a ridiculously expensive school where children who lead a charmed life congregate. but trust me, it doesn't mean that it is a place where people come out spoiled, depend on their parent's money and unsuccesful in life. Sure you're bound to have a student or two who is like that, but it is impossible to go to private school where you don't have someone who is like that.

However, many students in that school in particular, come out of there with acceptance letters to fantastic universities around the world, come out with a love of learning and come out ferociously independant after living away from their parents from a young age, and they go onto univeristiy taking with them the experience that all boarding schools provide and go on to become hugely successful in life. just take a look at their list of alumni.

Besides, who is to say that expensive educations don't bring about the best education? After all, isn't that what so many of our own parents strived to provide for us? The best education possible? and in response, how would you know that she went to a very undemanding school? i dare to contradict your statement as a graduate from the same school that Marie-Chantal went to. During my time there I did not have an easy time there in terms of academics, the system of the I.B. is not an easy academic program for any student who follows it. No matter where in the world.

Therefore, I wouldn't go around judging the academic rigours of a school when you either a) haven't studied there yourself or b) don't know anyone has.
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Old 04-16-2005, 02:59 AM
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I think Her Highness is a very hard working woman as well!The fact that she attented the best schools,helps her to catch up with all the affairs of her family and to keep our royal Prince happy!!
Just look at the fanfare that was put on for her own wedding. A tea party at Claridges thrown by the Queen, a cruise on the Danish yacht curtesey of her husband's maternal aunt, who happens to be the Queen of Denmark, her wedding was also the biggest congregation of royals since the wedding of the Queen of England herself.

The fact that she spends time with the Linleys, the Chattoes, the Taylors all of whom have young children and share her love of art (she was after all a art history student) shows their acceptance of her into the royal circle, and one cannot disagree one cannot buy her acceptance and approval by so many royal members of various royal families as a true Aegean asset.
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The fact that she spends time with the Linleys, the Chattoes, the Taylors all of whom have young children and share her love of art (she was after all a art history student) shows their acceptance of her into the royal circle, and one cannot disagree one cannot buy her acceptance and approval by so many royal members of various royal families as a true Aegean asset.
I've never seen a picture of Marie-Chantal and Pavlos with the Linleys, Chattos or the Taylors. Can you provide any pictures?

I also find a friendship between Marie-Chantal and Lady Sarah Chatto quite surprising. Sarah is known for being a very quiet, behind the scenes individual and rarely comes out for royal occasions connected to her aunt the Queen. So I would find it difficult to see her and Marie-Chantal, who enjoys media attention, spending time together.

I am just as uncertain of Marie-Chantal and Serena Linley. I can however, at least see a connection between Marie-Chantal and Lady Helen Taylor, who both frequent similar fashion and art circles in London, but I still have never seen a single picture of them together.
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Old 04-16-2005, 04:59 PM
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However, many students in that school in particular, come out of there with acceptance letters to fantastic universities around the world, come out with a love of learning and come out ferociously independant after living away from their parents from a young age, and they go onto univeristiy taking with them the experience that all boarding schools provide and go on to become hugely successful in life. just take a look at their list of alumni.
Well, I'm not trying to discredit rich kids who got into prestigious unis. I'm sure many of them are super intelligent and hardworking, and deserve every bit of that success. HOWEVER, it is also well known that many top universities accept substandard, or good but unremarkable, students from rich families, in the hopes of large donations in the future, or simply to raise the profile of the school. Isn't that what they call "legacies" in the US?
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Old 04-16-2005, 05:04 PM
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as a true Aegean asset.
Err...I'm not sure if Greeks would necessarily agree with that.
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Old 04-16-2005, 05:32 PM
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When Marie-Chantal was married, much was made of the fact she and her 2 sisters had married very well (1 to a Getty, I think, and 1 to the son of Diane von Fursternberg, another deposed royal, I think). Until then, I hadn't heard much about them. I've read a few interviews about Marie-Chantal since but they don't address much about Greece; they focus on her family and, yes, that children's clothing line. I can't recall if any of the proceed were going to any charity--in Greece or anywhere. The things she said were actually pretty bland. It's hard to know what to make of her as she keeps a fairly low profile except for appearances on the social scene. She obviously doesn't have to do anything for Greece but it would look good if she did--i.e., donating proceeds of her clothing line to a fund for social development or children's issues in her father-in-law's country of origin. I can't decide if she doesn't appear much in magazines because of her own choosing or if writers and editors simply feel there is not much of a story there. But one would hope, with her vast wealth, she would have some social conscience and do some "good works" to help those less fortunate. The only royals I've seen her photographed with are Princess Elena of Spain. The other salient question has to be what is her husband doing for his native land? Anything? I honestly don't know.
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:35 AM
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Well, I'm not trying to discredit rich kids who got into prestigious unis. I'm sure many of them are super intelligent and hardworking, and deserve every bit of that success. HOWEVER, it is also well known that many top universities accept substandard, or good but unremarkable, students from rich families, in the hopes of large donations in the future, or simply to raise the profile of the school. Isn't that what they call "legacies" in the US?
true. the the systems of legacies exist in various boarding schools as well as universities in the united states (at least to the extent that i am aware of) but i highly doubt that though they would accept students with the intellectual capacity of a derranged monkey, albeit the money that comes with it. Students accepted will presumably have to have some sort of intelligence as well. However, i wouldn't be in a position to comment on this, considering the fact that i've never known anyone or never had to rely on the money of my parents to get into a school.
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Old 05-17-2005, 06:55 AM
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Nah. He can't, at least legally.
I really don't care whether she uses her title or not. She certainly, in my mind, is not a princess, NOT because she doesn't "act like one" [how exactly do you act like a princess anyway?] but because she is not legally a princess. Greece is a republic, not a constitutional monarchy. She will not be the Queen of Greece one day. Therefore, to me, she is plain old Marie-Chantal Miller.

My two cents. Enjoy. :)
I agree, she is and always will be just Robert Miller's daughter.:)
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Old 05-17-2005, 09:42 AM
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I agree, she is and always will be just Robert Miller's daughter.:)
Knowing what I do of Mr. Miller's accomplishments, I'd say Marie-Chantal can take great pride in being Robert Miller's daughter. Mr. Miller has probably achieved more in his lifetime than a lot of ribbon-cutting royals who have titles by virtue of their birth.

With respect to Marie-Chantal, I'm a live and let live person.

As a mom, I periodically have to explain to my children why they should just ignore gossip and mean comments, usually from kids who know nothing about our family, our level of education, or our economic status. It saddens me to tell them to get used to it because some people never develop the humanity or wisdom to stop.:(
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Knowing what I do of Mr. Miller's accomplishments, I'd say Marie-Chantal can take great pride in being Robert Miller's daughter. Mr. Miller has probably achieved more in his lifetime than a lot of ribbon-cutting royals who have titles by virtue of their birth.
Robert Miller has accomplished a great deal and made himself a self-made man, yes. But at the end of the day, whether your father is a self-made millionnaire, the King of Greece or a firefighter or a truck driver, we are all our father's daughters and sons.

Being proud of your father is one thing.

How about accomplishing something yourself and being proud of yourself? How about achieving something with your own hands, your own brain so that your own children can say that they are proud of you?

What can Maria Olympia, Konstantine, Achilleas and Odysseas say about their mother? That she looks good in the front seat at Paris and New York fashion weeks?
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Old 05-20-2005, 02:26 PM
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What can Maria Olympia, Konstantine, Achilleas and Odysseas say about their mother?
Perhaps they can say Marie Chantal has been a good and loving mother.
Isn't that enough?
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Old 05-20-2005, 02:29 PM
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Perhaps they can say Marie Chantal has been a good and loving mother.
Isn't that enough?

Thank you Warren.
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Perhaps they can say Marie Chantal has been a good and loving mother.
Isn't that enough?
Very well said.:)
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Perhaps they can say Marie Chantal has been a good and loving mother.
Isn't that enough?
Amen, Warren. There is no greater happiness for a mother than a happy, healthy and loving family.

Personally, I think Marie-Chantal has much to be proud of. A loving husband, four beautiful children, a children's clothing business that continues to grow and prosper, involvement in her family's foundations & art collections, her family and friends. I think that MC will ultimately take over her father's business interests as well. MC's future is bright.:)
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Old 05-21-2005, 01:29 AM
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Robert Miller has accomplished a great deal and made himself a self-made man
Exactly. That's why I'm still waiting for Marie Chantal to actually do something with her life besides attending fashion shows, making babies, pretending to actually design baby clothes herself and not with the help of a design team, spending lavishly on useless stuff, vacationing elevan months out of the year, and flying all over the world to attend parties. Sure, marrying an exilied prince who will never be the King of Greece IN Greece and having kids is a wonderful blessing, but in my opinion Marie seriously hasn't done anything that adds to the greater good of the world (and no attending a fundraiser with a $50,000 dress on is not the same thing.)


Flame me all you want but please remember this is only my opinion not a fact.:)
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Old 05-21-2005, 02:05 AM
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Exactly. That's why I'm still waiting for Marie Chantal to actually do something with her life besides... making babies
I don't wish to labour this point, but what is wrong exactly with a woman "making babies" (ugly expression).

I don't understand why some contributors to these forums see little value in a woman being a good mother. Why isn't this a desirable, and successful, end in itself? Is this not "doing something", and why isn't it "enough"?
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