A son for Pavlos and Marie Chantal: Born Sept. 17 2004


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Obviously She didn´t carry her baby because she was still too weak from child birth.
 
Anna_R said:
Why didn't Pavlos or Marie-Chantal carried the baby out of the hospital?
Maybe it's like when you leave hospital you are escorted out in a wheelchair so that while you are on the hospitals grounds nothing happens to you and you can't sue them??

Maybe with "VIP" babies the children are walked out so "nothing happens to them" ??? or maybe it's a security thing?

I don't know really, I'm just guessing!!! :lol:
 
Well, maybe she is tired from child birth or she did carry him till the hospital door than gave the baby to the nurse while she was getting into the car.Obviously she can carry the baby and hop in2 the car.
 
Maybe,They...

....didn't want photographs this very particular time,-maybe for security reasons,and wanted to make photographs later, during the official presentation.

Once more i wish congratulations for The Parents,and a Happy Life to the baby!!!
 
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Guess Who said:
Well, maybe she is tired from child birth or she did carry him till the hospital door than gave the baby to the nurse while she was getting into the car.Obviously she can carry the baby and hop in2 the car.
She did seem quite tired!!!
 
Does anyone know why M-C stayed in the hospital for almost a week after giving birth? That seems like an awfully long time. Were there any complications? And it's something else that a nurse carried the baby to the car, and Pavlos carried a Vogue magazine. :rolleyes: And some people wonder why the couple gets made fun of alot!
 
Well, giving birth isn't exactly a walk in the park so no wonder Marie-Chantal looks tired. But it has been a week now ... and if she has a newborn baby she should get used to being tired.

But even if Marie-Chantal was tired from the baby why didn't Pavlos carry the baby out of the hospital? Is he tired from the delivery too or what?
 
perhaps it is a new policy in london that the nurse carries the baby out!
 
...I doubt that being tired (esp. a week after the birth) would prevent a new mother (or father) from having the joy of carrying her little baby from the hospital...even if it's only to the car. Look at Diana, Mathilde, Alexandra, Claire, etc. They all did it. Why would Marie-Chantal prefer for a nurse to do it? And why wouldn't Pavlos do it? I doubt it's a new policy for a nurse to carry a baby out...very strange.
 
moosey60 said:
...I doubt that being tired (esp. a week after the birth) would prevent a new mother (or father) from having the joy of carrying her little baby from the hospital...even if it's only to the car. Look at Diana, Mathilde, Alexandra, Claire, etc. They all did it. Why would Marie-Chantal prefer for a nurse to do it? And why wouldn't Pavlos do it? I doubt it's a new policy for a nurse to carry a baby out...very strange.
I don't know... I just said that she looked tired!! but it is quite strange that a nusre carried the baby...
 
If you remember Paul & MC carried Maria-Olympia, Constantin & Achilleas out from the hospital ;)
That's quite strange, that for this one they didn't announce officially the birth , they don't show pictures (whereas for their first kids they did .... ) that strange :confused:
 
kil said:
If you remember Paul & MC carried Maria-Olympia, Constantin & Achilleas out from the hospital ;)
That's quite strange, that for this one they didn't announce officially the birth , they don't show pictures (whereas for their first kids they did .... ) that strange :confused:
There weren't any complications during the birth, were there?? Yes, it is very strange, even more whem comparing with the first three children. I mean, we can't really see the baby in the pics...
 
Well, giving birth isn't exactly a walk in the park so no wonder Marie-Chantal looks tired. But it has been a week now ... and if she has a newborn baby she should get used to being tired.

Why? She no doubt has a bevy of nannies & nurses to take care of the children while she gets her social life back into shape!
 
I don't buy for a minute that it was just because MC was tired that they didn't carry him out. Something smells fishy here. Even Clothilde and Emanuele-Filiberto carried out Vittoria and it was EF that was in the wheelchair with Clothilde pushing him! You'd think that he had the baby instead of his being in an accident :).
 
ILoveCristina said:
I don't know... I just said that she looked tired!! but it is quite strange that a nusre carried the baby...

When I was borned, my father tiped one golden pound to the nurse that presented his son (me) to him ,and she felt so obliged that she brought me home!

Later when I grew up,and of cource quarrelled with him,{actually very often}his main argument was that he should have used the golden pound and send me for aduption in America!!!!
 
Because their lovely son has just born so may be the christening will take place 4 or 5 months later.But i wonder where will the ceremony take place?In Greece?Or other place?Hope that a lot of Royals will attend.
 
HMQueenElizabethII said:
Because their lovely son has just born so may be the christening will take place 4 or 5 months later.But i wonder where will the ceremony take place?In Greece?Or other place?Hope that a lot of Royals will attend.
I think Alexia's youngest daughter was christened in Greece, so maybe this baby will be cristhened in Greece too.
 
Any official announcement on the baby's name yet? I think it's really strange that's the baby still hasn't got a name...
I really hope there's nothing wrong with the baby...
 
Actually, her having been in the hospital for 5 days is more consitent with a caesarian section birth rather than a natural birth. If that were the case then it is not surprising that she wasn't holding the baby, a c-section is serious abdominal surgery. Having said that, I find it odd that Pavlos wasn't holding the baby...I'm sure most people don't think carrying Vogue to be a greater priority than carrying one's newborn son. Perhaps he isn't comfortable handling a newborn?
 
Mission said:
I find it odd that Pavlos wasn't holding the baby...I'm sure most people don't think carrying Vogue to be a greater priority than carrying one's newborn son. Perhaps he isn't comfortable handling a newborn?

I would hope that by the fourth child he would be used to carrying a baby! I can understand why M-C wasn't carrying the baby, especially if she had a c-section. As for Pavlos, maybe it was a very special issue of Vogue that couldn't be trusted to just anyone? :rolleyes:
 
I am inclined to think that Marie Chantal rode out in a wheelchair holding the baby and passed the infant to the nurse/attendant who most likely pushed the wheelchair so she could get into the car. Pavlos, like most fathers, was given the duty of carting out some of Marie Chantal's items (mags, flowers, small bag etc.. that sort of thing) from her stay. Rex also has that flower holding pic and several others. One in which the nurse is standing very close to MC and seemingly ready to pass the baby to her after she gets in the car.
 
irishchic5 said:
As for Pavlos, maybe it was a very special issue of Vogue that couldn't be trusted to just anyone? :rolleyes:
:p

It was probably the September issue -- very important for all the fall fashions!

samitude said:
In the U.S. a nurse is required to go out to the vehicle with the mother in case something happens. I don't know if it's the same in England or not. Pavlos could have carried the baby out of the hospital and just handed him to the nurse to hold while he put the rest of the stuff in the vehicle. In this picture you can see him carrying a flower arrangement and what looks like a book so we know there was more stuff then just Vogue magazine. :)
I don't think nurses are required to carry babies out directly to the car in England, or at least not London. Helen Taylor, Sarah Chatto, Princess Diana, Sophie Wessex all carried out their babies (or their husbands did in Edward and Charles's case) on their own.

If Marie-Chantal had a C-section and was still experiencing some discomfort (highly plausible) then what is Pavlos's case for not carrying his son out from the hospital to the car? Carrying a basket of flowers and a Vogue is more important than his own son?

Firstly, he knew that there would likely be photographers trying to get the first photos of the baby -- all the more reason to carry the baby out himself: good PR for him, Marie-Chantal and the rest of the family.

Secondly, there is no excuse for Pavlos not to carry his newborn baby out. Even if he carried the baby out of the hospital, why wouldn't he have put the baby directly into his car seat or his mother's arms rather than turn the baby over to the nurse to put the flowers and magazine in the car then disturb the baby again to put him in the car seat/with Marie-Chantal?
 
They were both obviously exhausted. It's easy to see why a nurse assisted in carrying the baby to the car :rolleyes:
 
That's a really good point! I totally agree, his newborn son should be more important to him!
 
Why is carrying or not carrying their baby such a big deal... it is not that they are neglecting him....

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Of course they are not neglecting him. It is wether or not it is a normal procedure in Britain, where as it is different in the US. Also wondering how MC was doing as well. I had no idea she had a C Section.
 
My personnal view is that she was not feeling that well from the csection, probably was in pain and Pavlos probably is one of those father that prefers not to carry their own babies when they are so small. It does not mean they are neglecting them, it just mean they feel fear to not handling them well. That is perfectly normal in most fathers.
 
Ariel said:
My personnal view is that she was not feeling that well from the csection, probably was in pain and Pavlos probably is one of those father that prefers not to carry their own babies when they are so small. It does not mean they are neglecting them, it just mean they feel fear to not handling them well. That is perfectly normal in most fathers.
Yes, but this is his fourth child!! Well, maybe some people are just scared to hold such small babies, no matter how many children they have.
As fot Marie Chantal, I did not know she had had a csection. Now that I know, I think she mustn't have felt quite well, which is understandable.
 
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I am in a wee-bit of exile myself. My mother is away in Florida assisting hurricane victims. In so doing, I have been "exiled" to stay with my grandparents until her return. I look forward to returning to my "homeland" and it really does feel like exile to me. I am away from everything that I own. I have brought a few books with me to sustain me including one on Maximilian and Charlotte of Mexico and a Royal Dynasty book. Alas, time to read.

ODYSSEUS!? AAAAAH. I rather like that name. I was hoping for girl... Still, I am happy for Pavlos and Marie-Chantal and Anne-Marie and Constantine.

Happy Anniversery Your Majesties!

Odysseus, I love that name. Good choice Pavlos! I hope M-C let him name his son.... :) some people have said it will be hard on him to live with the name Odysseus...don't you think its going to be just as hard as being Prince of Greece? Even if they had named him Pavlos or George, it would not be easy for him because he is a Prince. Also, George would have been good to honor past kings of the Hellenes. George-Odysseus...or Odysseus-Georgios? Perhaps...:) CONGRATS.

ITS A PRINCE! I am going to send them a card!
 
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