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Old 01-20-2009, 06:31 PM
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A Prince who will marry and produce a legitimate heir. Otherwise, Caroline's kids are in.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:46 PM
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A wife for Prince Albert.
Edit: A wife for Prince Albert who has Monaco's best interests in mind.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:53 PM
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Albert needs to marry and produce legitimate heirs. It's part of his responsibility to keep the principality going. He shouldn't rely on Caroline's kids to fulfill this.
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Old 01-20-2009, 09:54 PM
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Albert needs to marry and produce legitimate heirs. It's part of his responsibility to keep the principality going. He shouldn't rely on Caroline's kids to fulfill this.
Well before that he needs to stay home more and appear to be less of a "ribbon cutter" and more of a serious leader. I read an article where the private banking industry held a conference in Monaco that Albert was present yet we don't hear about it. He needs to let more people see that side of him.
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:39 PM
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Remind me how old Albert is?
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:11 PM
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An heir and a princess consort.
I say this but I really would love to see Princess Caroline as sovereign princess of Monaco. However, I don't think Andreas Casiraghi would be a good prince, so I get in doubt.
It's a pity that Albert II doesn't have legitime sons.

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Remind me how old Albert is?
He's 50 years olds. Tecnically, he is still in the age of being father.
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Old 01-21-2009, 10:46 AM
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Time for him to start dating some more appropriate women. He's not doing that when he's seeing Tongolese flight attendants, etc.
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:27 PM
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Monaco is missing and NEEDS another Grace Kelly -- in more way than one.
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:36 PM
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Monaco is missing and NEEDS another Grace Kelly -- in more way than one.
What's missing from Monaco?

Let's start with leadership, class, sophistication ... the list is endless!
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:37 PM
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I agree totally with you.It is a pity she is dead.Grace situated Monaco into the map,and she represented perfectly her role as princess.She is an example of elegance ,glamour,and perfect behaviour.
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:40 PM
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Monaco is missing and NEEDS another Grace Kelly -- in more way than one.
I don't think Monaco needs another Grace, persay. If anything, Albert (or a future heir) needs to establish the fact that there can be another high time for Monaco without Grace and Rainier. Albert and whomever he chooses need to be their own people.
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:49 PM
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I think that Albert is a wonderful man but unfortunately he hasn't a strong personality, this is the problem. Monaco needs a leader like Obama !
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:55 PM
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What is missing?

Any sense of dignity, any gentle grace (no pun intended,) any behavior that is Royal; instead, it's celebroyals, standards that put EastEnders to shame, and a useless ruling family.

The current and future Royal family is bereft of purpose, and bereft of raison de'etre. Rudderless, they wander across the pages of newspapers and magazines.

Perhaps a merge back into France wouldn't be altogether awful.
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I don't think Monaco needs another Grace, persay. If anything, Albert (or a future heir) needs to establish the fact that there can be another high time for Monaco without Grace and Rainier. Albert and whomever he chooses need to be their own people.
I disagree with you.Prince Albert might have his parents as an example.
There will not be , unfortunately ,another Grace Kelly.
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Old 01-21-2009, 03:12 PM
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Also, sadly Albert has none of the good looks or charisma of either of his parents. Caroline certainly got the looks in the family.
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... Any sense of dignity, any gentle grace (no pun intended,) any behavior that is Royal; instead, it's celebroyals, standards that put EastEnders to shame, and a useless ruling family.

The current and future Royal family is bereft of purpose, and bereft of raison de'etre. Rudderless, they wander across the pages of newspapers and magazines. ... [snipped]
You have brilliantly answered the question. Monaco royals have come very near to overstepping a thin line that distinguishes royals/nobility from the rest.
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Old 01-21-2009, 03:29 PM
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I don't think that royal families in Europe are a sparkling example of dignity, integrity and intelligence. Windsor, Savoia, but also Belgium and Spain , we could say many things not very edifying.
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Time for him to start dating some more appropriate women. He's not doing that when he's seeing Tongolese flight attendants, etc.

You must be new. I don't think you h ave to worry about the flight attendant--unless you want to. Time moves on with him. We've had several ladies seemingly connected with him and of his choice. In fact, we've h ad this one young lady who he seems to bestow high profile stuff on for what must is 3 three years now. H e's entitled to see and be with whoever he so desires,thats how I see it. And we keep going round and round with this. When and Can't we see that its not about what we on this forum and perhaps anyone else wants or thinks he should have.He likes what he likes.

And what really gets me is that he is the sovreign prince, Truly the head honcho in charge. I'm sure he's been trained to take over his h eritage (as someone above mentioned his presence in certain places). He,Im sure knows what makes Monace tick. And he, has shown he handles his emotional life exactly as he pleases. And who of us wouldn't want that for ourselves (making our own choices)

And this woman he has, who of us know if she doesn't have Monaco to heart, or at least probably makes him think she has or can have with training.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:30 PM
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No I'm not new, I just seldom wade into the Prince Albert waters. As far as 'he likes what he likes' if he likes this young lady enough to keep her for 3 years, how do you account for his reluctance to marry and provide the principality with a legitimate heir?
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A raison d'etre as a principality for the twenty-first century. Prince Rainier was unfortunately prescient when he said that he liked to describe himself as the CEO of a huge enterprise. That's what Prince Albert has made of his realm: just a huge conglomerate. A kingdom, a principality need a past, a present and a future. Under Prince Rainier, the past was still very much there, "a sunny place for shady people", wrapped in a certain mystery, a certain dreamy distance that kept people and their unquenchable craving for scandal (which Monaco 's past was so filled with) at bay. It had a present, when he married Grace Kelly and in great part thanks to her revived the principality and melded tradition and change into something glamorous. It had a future, in their three beautiful children. It was anchored.
Now, the past is either iconized or commercialized with nostalgic commemorations, the present is Prince Albert, alone, for, realistically speaking, his siblings, nephews, nieces, illegitimate children and girlfriend don't count for much, and it has no future: there is no offspring to carry on the history.
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