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Old 08-06-2007, 10:38 AM
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Princess Antoinette plotting against Ranier

I was just reading a website that claimed Princess Antoinette and her lover Jean Charles Rey plotted and schemed to overthrow and depose her brother Rainer and proclaim herself as Regent and Sovereign Princess.

Apparentley the princess circulated rumours that Rainier's fiancee, actress Gisele Pascal, was infertile which led to the breakup of the relationship.

But then Rainer married Grace and had children which put an end to her plotting. Also, it stated the Princess Grace had her removed from the palace and kicked out of Monaco!
(even though she lives down the coast from Monaco)

I was wondering if this story was true and can anyone fill me in on other details of this lady and story. I read she is quite eccentric and servants reffered to her as 'mad'.

I read she is also starting to be on good terms with the family these days.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:55 PM
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I was just reading a website that claimed Princess Antoinette and her lover Jean Charles Rey plotted and schemed to overthrow and depose her brother Rainer and proclaim herself as Regent and Sovereign Princess.

Apparentley the princess circulated rumours that Rainier's fiancee, actress Gisele Pascal, was infertile which led to the breakup of the relationship.

But then Rainer married Grace and had children which put an end to her plotting. Also, it stated the Princess Grace had her removed from the palace and kicked out of Monaco!
(even though she lives down the coast from Monaco)

I was wondering if this story was true and can anyone fill me in on other details of this lady and story. I read she is quite eccentric and servants reffered to her as 'mad'.

I read she is also starting to be on good terms with the family these days.
I had previously read the same info although Gisele was just a lover/girlfriend not a fiancee. Antoinette already had a son, Christian, so she would be regent until he was of age to take over. I believe the whole thing ended up being blamed on Rey so things were smoothed over with Antoinette. I don't know if Grace ever trusted her though. I also read that Antoinette and her mother, Charlotte, treated Grace quite badly in the early years of her marriage.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:22 PM
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thanks for that Libra, I never really noticed Antoinette before, she seems like an interesting lady to research :)

yes you are right, Rey was her lover, not fiance.
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Old 08-07-2007, 05:48 AM
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thanks for that Libra, I never really noticed Antoinette before, she seems like an interesting lady to research :)

yes you are right, Rey was her lover, not fiance.
Actually Rey was her husband from 1961 on
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Old 08-07-2007, 12:03 PM
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Hi, I'm new to the forum & came across this thread. I don't think it's been mentioned before that Antoinette married an English ballet dancer John Gilpin, but he died pretty soon afterwards (from a heart attack i think.) I remember reading his autobiography a long time ago & there were a few references to Monaco/ Antoinette but no hint of a romance/marriage which surprised me at the time. I seem to remember there was a photo of a young(ish) Antoinette greeting Gilpin at a ballet. I wonder if anyone knows anymore about their relationship & what Rainier made of her marriage to a dancer?
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:11 PM
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Elly, John Gilpin wasn't just a dancer, but actually a very good one ballet.co - Legend

Annually the John Gilpin scholarship is being awarded to a dancer, participating at the exams held in Monaco.
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Sorry if I devalued him, I gather he was one of the leading dancers of his generation. I think he'd been a friend & confidante of Antoinette for many years before they married.
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Does anyone have a picture of Christian de Massy at Rainier's funeral?
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:16 PM
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Does anyone have a picture of Christian de Massy at Rainier's funeral?
He is the one sitting directly behind the Casiraghis (Charlotte, I think) during the funeral service, if I am not mistaken.

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Old 08-08-2007, 02:34 AM
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I'm confused - .... what does the special pet blessing event have to do with the Festival of Sacred Music?
I think you can find the answer here Monaco Revue -- The celebrity and lifestyle magazine with purpose

one of the paragraph in the article as I pasted below should give you the answer to that question

"The idea for a blessing of the animals came to Nall, an Alabama-born artist based in the French Riviera, when he worked last year among the Franciscans, who commissioned him to interpret the theme of Violata-Pax, translated as "Wounded Peace". (The pieces from that commission, including a large statue of a dove missing its right foot, toured France, Italy, Monaco and the United States.) Inspired by the legend of the love the order's founder, St Francis, had for all creatures, Nall decided to add a blessing of animals to the Sacred Music Festival he has organized in Monaco for the last five years."

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Old 08-08-2007, 05:27 AM
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He is the one sitting directly behind the Casiraghis (Charlotte, I think) during the funeral service, if I am not mistaken.

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No, if he was there (which I doubt), he was not sitting with the grandchildren. He did not sit with the family either. Maybe he was somewhere with other guests, but he was not sitting in the Altar room with family members.
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:19 AM
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Oh well... I recant. I've seen pictures of him and I saw someone who looked like him sitting behind the Casiraghis. My bad.

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I think Melanie's brother bears some resemblance with him from afar, so that might account for it. Elizabeth-Anne was seated next to her daughter, who was seated next to her brother if my memory doesn't deceive me. there were also Ernsts children. Space is limited so they had the young generation on one side and the elders on the other.
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does Keith Knecht, grandson of Princess antionette have any children. Plus is their any photos of him and his wife.
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Notary and Monegasque politician Jean-Charles Rey and his wife Princess Antoinette of Monaco. (Monaco, 1962)
http://s5.tinypic.com/24pe9ee.jpg
http://s5.tinypic.com/rbxoqf.jpg (1924)
Princess Antoinette and Prince Rainier, charming offspring of Prince Pierre de Monaco, as they participated in a fancy dress parade at a garden party at Cannes, on the French Riviera. (1930)
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http://s5.tinypic.com/2nar57r.jpg (Monaco, 2001)

http://s5.tinypic.com/6rmqnd.jpg (1983)
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It's Monaco Grand Prix week, and there is a connection between that and Princess Antoinette:

Her partner/boyfriend Alexandre-Athenase Noghès was a tennis champion and heir to a cigarette fortune.

He was also the son of Anthony Noghès (1890-1978) who was the founder of the Monaco Grand Prix in 1929.

1929 Monaco Grand Prix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Princess Antoinette is back for her annual pets event!
It's so great to see her again after such a long time!

An animal blessing office has been administrated by Monsignor
Barsi on Monaco cathedral forecourt during "Monaco Sacred
Music Festival", June 3, 2009 in Monaco. Princess Antoinette
and granddaughter Melanie were pictured during the blessing.


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Princess Antoinette's face may be ravaged by age, but she is a trooper and turns out for her "signature" event.

It's nice to be able to write something about her in this forum.....
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Does any-one have a picture of Antoinette and her mother attending Prince Rainier and Grace Kelly's wedding in 1956 ? Thanks a lot
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:18 PM
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[quote=Australian;650264]I was just reading a website that claimed Princess Antoinette and her lover Jean Charles Rey plotted and schemed to overthrow and depose her brother Rainer and proclaim herself as Regent and Sovereign Princess.

Apparentley the princess circulated rumours that Rainier's fiancee, actress Gisele Pascal, was infertile which led to the breakup of the relationship.

But then Rainer married Grace and had children which put an end to her plotting. Also, it stated the Princess Grace had her removed from the palace and kicked out of Monaco!
(even though she lives down the coast from Monaco)

I was wondering if this story was true and can anyone fill me in on other details of this lady and story. I read she is quite eccentric and servants reffered to her as 'mad'.

Wow, well it was not Antoinette that started the rumors about Gisele who was not Rainier's fiance but girlfriend. Antoinette did try to over throw Rainier. It was Rainier who put her "on notice" and removed her from the palace. In their later years, they were on much better terms.
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