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Old 02-28-2010, 10:27 PM
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So glad to have someone point the facts out. I had no idea Pss. Grace family history traced back to the most serious of times.

Apparantly Pss Grace wasn't as much of a commoner as most would think?? Truly coming from a noble heritage!

Well,in royal and princely terms she was very much a commoner with a dash of German noble blood just through her mother...here is her line from Schenk von Stauffenberg family,family of famous Claus,Count Schenk von Stauffenberg and Andrea's ex-girfriend Caroline,Countess Schenk von Stauffenberg:



Konrad Schenk von Stauffenberg,died in 1361=Adelheid von Ow
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Elisabeth Schenk von Stauffenberg
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Adelheid Megenzer von Felldorf
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Elisabeth von Pleiningen
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Erhard Faut gennant zum Stock,Rattherr in Studtgart,born in 1450
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Barbara Faut gennant zum Stock,lived from 1470-1514
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Elisabeth Stickel,died in 1531
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Margaretha Hom,died in 1606
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Christine Spam von Sparr
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Brigitte Stehlin aus Merklingen,died in 1598
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Brigitte Aubler,lived from 1584-1644
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Euphrosyne Leo,lived from 1614-1681
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Eufrosine Schübel,lived from 1640-1689
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Johann Christoph Lang,lived from 1673-1720
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Christine Euphrosine Lang,lived from 1707-1744
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Prof.Johann Christoph von Maier,lived from 1741-1821
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Gustav Maier,lived from 1793-1856
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Johann Christian Karl Maier,lived from 1837-1885
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Karl Maier,lived from 1863-1922
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Margaret Maier,born in 1899
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Grace Patricia Kelly,lived from 1929-1982=Prince Ranier III of Monaco,lived from 1923-1005



So,the von Stauffenbergs and all nobles that have descended from them could today count as Kelly relatives,no matter how distant they are.As we see Grace Patricia Kelly also descended from several other German noble families like von Pleiningen, von Münchingen, Spam von Sparr, von Felldorf, von Ow, von Rath, von Bettendorf , von Nippenburg, von Thierberg and von Salmedingen zu Erpfingen family...
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Old 03-03-2010, 05:45 PM
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Great! this list could keep us going for months.. - I look forward to it!

How did you find all the info, Marc?
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Old 03-04-2010, 03:15 AM
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Just going deeper into her ancestry...people often lose their patience and look just for 2-3 past generations and that's it... :-)
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Old 04-10-2010, 11:53 PM
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Lizanne (Kelly) Levine and the son of John B. Kelly II are in this Philadelphia news piece about the death of Prince Raininer. This was probably the last interview with Lizanne Levine, she passed away after Prince Rainier.

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Old 04-11-2010, 02:55 AM
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she passed away shortly after Prince Rainier.
"Shortly after" is not not quite correct. Prince Rainier died on April 6,
2005, Lizanne Kelly LeVine on November 24, 2009, that's a difference
or timespan of around 4 1/2 years.
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Is the Kelly brick company still in business? Is it still owned by the family? Do any of the family still work for the company?
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Old 04-16-2010, 02:04 PM
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Is the Kelly brick company still in business? Is it still owned by the family? Do any of the family still work for the company?
John B. Kelly Jr inherited from his father and ran "Kelly for Brickworks", then sold it. I don't think that the company is still operating anymore.
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Old 04-16-2010, 02:38 PM
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John B. Kelly Jr inherited from his father and ran "Kelly for Brickworks", then sold it. I don't think that the company is still operating anymore.
The address for Kelly For Brickwork was "1720 Cherry Street, Philadelphia, PN". I googled that address and it is no longer there. I am not sure when the business closed though
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I have found the place in where John B. Kelly (Grace´s brother) and his wife lived in the 50s and 60s. It´s located in 2601 Parkway, Philadelphia and now it´s a condonium.

The Mothers of Assumption - the first school of Kelly sisters: Peggy, Gracie and Lizzie.

A view of the school thanks to google map.

Jack Kelly - Grace´s father- statue in Philly
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Princess Grace and her family attended a play while John Kelly was taking part in compitition (Rome, 30/08/1960):

http://i50.tinypic.com/159chj.jpg
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^That's Lizanne with Grace and Jack?
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^That's Lizanne with Grace and Jack?
Yes, you are totally right, Nathalie!
They looked nice togethe, didn't they?
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^They do. They are such a handsome family. It's hard to think that no one of that Kelly generation are alive. :(
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Peggy's daughter and Princess Grace's niece; Margaret Ann (known as Meg) was Princess Caroline's godmother. She was also one of the flower girls at Prince Rainier and Princess Grace's wedding. Afterwards in life, Princess Caroline become godmother of Margaret's eldest son; Richard.

Here's the photo of Lizanne LeVine (Grace's younger sister) I found on Corbis..It's dated on 1997.

Meg still lives outside of Philadelphia. She has 3 sons-all of whom live in LA.
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Meg still lives outside of Philadelphia. She has 3 sons-all of whom live in LA.
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Margaret Packer, daughter of Grace's sister Peggy, was a flower girl at Princess Grace's wedding, not Caroline's.
Meg is also the last surviving person that was in the wedding.
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Her sister, Meg Packer, loves playing golf andher name is listed here:
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I can't find much else about her yet

2 of Meg Packer's 3 sons: Rich Roe | Facebook and Gabby Roe | Facebook




Kell's grandson (son of Susan von Medicus) is a model!: Welcome to Facebook | Facebook

Meg was on the cover of Seventeen Magazine during her freshman year of college. Would be early 60's. Maybe someone can find the cover online. She looks just like a young Grace.
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My grandmother is daughter of Margaret Majer´sister, so well that´s all. I´m not very introducing with they because I grew up far of US.
I don't think this could be correct, since Margaret Majer had two brothers (Carl and Bruno) and no sisters. Both men married American women and their families remain in the Philadelphia area, according to Ancestry.com. - Ancestry.com

The information on Ancestry has been verified by five original sources, but if your grandmother really is Margaret Majer's sister who has somehow been overlooked, please provide more information about (dates of birth, marriage, death, husband and children's names) so the database can be updated.
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You´re wrong, look for Patrice "Nina" Majer, she was smaller than Margaret. She appears.
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You´re wrong, look for Patrice "Nina" Majer, she was smaller than Margaret. She appears.
Nope, she's not in the records. No sign of her in the census, the obits, or other resources I found via Ancestry.

Also, if she was younger than Margaret, she must have been born in the United States, but there's no sign of a birth certificate for her.

In fact, she is not in any of the genealogical or public records as far as I can see, nor is she in the Majer family trees other family members have filed.

If you can provide more details about her, perhaps it will be possible to trace her. If your grandmother really was Margaret's sister, it would be a shame to see her and all her descendants left off the family trees.
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