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Old 05-28-2004, 11:42 PM
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Another reason to be thankful not to be royal.....every vice is examined, caught in photos, written about by "friends" or former staff. Smoking and alcohol are seen differently in Europe and the royals who partake are doing pretty much what everyone else does. Although, with Princess Diana's hatred of smoking, I do wonder what kind of discussion she and Harry would be having as he has been caught on camera smoking quite a few times.......This is one area where I think she would've put her foot down--on his cigarette box--and read him the riot act!
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Old 05-30-2004, 08:26 AM
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come on people...Royals are human too...let them smoke....at least they aren't committing crimes and stuff....it could be worst like abusing harmful drugs, raping, etc. etc.....so let them have their little share of pleasures ^^
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Old 05-30-2004, 02:17 PM
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I'll never get it, the pleasure of smoking. I even tried to take it up when I was about fifteen. It didn't work. I had to shower and brush my teeth afterward. I accept that Europeans really like it and don't consider it harmful in any way to themselves or to those inhaling the secondhand smoke nearby. But I really have to sigh when I read on Princess Caroline's board that she smoked and drank during her pregnancy with Alexandra. Maybe Europe needs a Surgeon General to warn about the dangers of cigarettes to babies and young children, not just the smoke, but the burning embers of a cigarette or the hot ashes falling on the kid. Or someone falling asleep with a cigarette and catching the bed and house on fire. I do think it is as bad as other drugs in terms of addictiveness. Nicotine is supposed to be worse than heroin. Such a shame. But I realize Europeans love their cigarettes. It will always be a mystery to me. *sigh* Fine with me to drop this topic. I read further that it has been much discussed already.
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:36 AM
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does Caroline still smoke
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Old 11-17-2004, 12:20 PM
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sorry, josephine I had to laugh when I read your question... YES YES YES Caroline still smokes... lol
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Old 11-23-2004, 07:50 PM
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it is a bad habit and not easy to break..some of my friends do smoke and they made resolution almost every year to break the habit..but never succeeded. as i do not smoke, i asked them sometimes why they do it..trend, to be in the circle, they said... it baffles me because i managed to be in their circle without me having to smoke!!

i never quit understand why people smoke
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Old 01-15-2005, 11:50 PM
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Let's see...

Why is that people continue to pour toxics (alchohol or nicotine) into their bodily systems? Why is that people continue to eat "foods" that toxify their bodily systems (saturated fats)? Why is it that people continue to believe in behaviorial systems that are detremental to their survival?

The simple answer is (royal or not) is that it feels "right" and/or feels "good".

If something feels "right" or "good" wouldn't you partake in the action (other than the forewarnings of the "experts")?

Are these people just doing what you are I would do (i.e., partaking in something that society or some other belief system says we shouldn't?) It really isn't a matter of nobility or royatly.

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Old 01-16-2005, 01:11 AM
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up to 50 Winstons/day, Bunte Magazine (Germany), early 80's
GollY! 50 cigarettes a day? Whoa i'm surprised she doesn't have any serious lung problems...
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Old 01-16-2005, 03:21 AM
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GollY! 50 cigarettes a day? Whoa i'm surprised she doesn't have any serious lung problems...
besides considering stopping for health reasons, a friend of mine stopped a 2 pack a day habit and his skin lost a greyish tone and became healthy looking. wonder how caroline manages to remain so beautifull, it also is not good for your teath and makes your gums shrink and gives you vertical lines on your upper lip
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Old 01-16-2005, 06:28 AM
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she can afford the best of skin treatment lucky duck! ^___^
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Old 01-22-2005, 12:37 AM
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Yes, when you have access to the best aestheticians and skin care specialists, it helps, doesn't it? Also, there are many teeth whitening products out there so grey teeth is no longer an issue. I am American but have friends who are european who find it no big deal to smoke. It's much more of an issue here. I think Caroline's father smoked heavily and Grace did smoke when under a lot of stress (but not often). Perhaps she uses it as a way to control her weight. And, as her husband smokes, well, it would be very hard to break the habit when one's partner is lighting up all the time. It clearly has health implications but Caroline strikes me as having such a not dark but perhaps bleak view of the world (tough childhood by her own admission, divorce, being widowed, losing her mom,.....one thing after another) that I suspect smoking is the least of her worries--in her mind. Yes, the worst part is that her kids are taking it up as well but they may have done so even if she did not smoke herself.
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it's amazing how bad habits can catch-up as you grow and mature. and certainly, andrea casiraghi has proven so. i've seen pictures of him starting smoking at a very young age(i think around 15 or 14), regardless if that smoking of his was a practice of habit or not, or it being a european thing or him trying to maintain his weight, even so, his appearance right now as young man of 22 years of age has drastically changed to that of his past chiselled looks. i agree with most commentators here that he has, somehow and apparently, become too laid-back where his attitude and behavior borders that of irresponsilibity when it comes to personal hygiene.

and what i find sad most importantly are 2 things:
a) that he chose to continue to smoke even until now regarding the full-blown warning and dangers that smoking can cause to your health and it's consequences not only to himself but to his family as well
b) that his family(don't know 'bout his girlfriend), in my own opinion, somehow support not only his but also his brother pierre's habit of smoking.

in this modern day and age, apparently somehow, reason when it comes to decision making has, for me, undoubtedly taken a backseat. big time.
there is no doubt in my mind that his smoking habits have affected his looks. we all know that smoking has it's negative effects and andrea is somehow the embodiment of it.

i may sound judgmental or negative or whatever opinion may come to your mind in reaction to this comment, but whatever it is, whether you agree with it or not, whether you are hurt one way or another or you completely think i'm crazy or something, i will fully respect your opinion just as my opinion is as free as yours and everyone else in this world, but i have never drank, smoked or gambled in my life because i chose not to and have seen first-hand the effects of such things not only to the person close/closest to you but to the people that surrounds you as well. i even discourage most of my friends who would think about any of these things, and if any of my friends did really do it(and they did) i would ask them to be careful and most importantly, to consider their future with the consequences that comes along with it.
but just as my bestfriend says, "you are old enough to know and determine which is right or not, but it is your decision."
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Old 04-07-2007, 05:25 AM
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Any person will grow older.

With or without sun tanning,
with or without a healthy diet,
with or without drinking,
with or without smoking....

Any person will become older, loose hair, get wrinkles, become less athletic, the eyesight and the hearing will decrease, etc.

It says not so very much. The ascetic King Baudouin is already dead for 15 years while his flamboyant drinking, eating and smoking brother is still reigning Belgium.

Queen Fabiola, the Nun-Queen, is still alive, looking very ascetic alike the personification of Saint Teresa de Avila, but she is one of the most aged, wrinkled and frail looking royals of all, whereas the gin-tonic slurping, food-loving and smoking Queen-Mum reached the blessed age of 101 in remarkably well physic condition.

So my advice to young mister Casiraghi is: la vie est un cadeau, enjoy.
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Old 04-07-2007, 08:54 AM
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There are always exceptions to the rule, but smoking will catch up with you in one way or another. Smoking is probably the worst thing you can do to your body above everything else. Smoking is implicated in ALL major diseases, no just the super deadly one of lung cancer (that will take you out very quickly). I know that old habits die hard, but smoking is one of the worst to have. I agree with whoever said Andrea looks like an old man, always puffing away on a ciggie. I hope that the family will kick this most unbecoming and dangerous habit.
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:59 AM
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I hope that the family will kick this most unbecoming and dangerous habit.
The family?

Smoking is an individual choice.

The French are almost born with a Gauloises in their mouth.

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Old 04-07-2007, 10:38 AM
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The family?

Smoking is an individual choice.

The French are almost born with a Gauloises in their mouth.

They are born with Asterix and Obelix in their mouth? !!! Just kidding, I know Gauloises is a brand of cigarettes. And you're right smoking is an individual choice.

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Old 04-07-2007, 05:49 PM
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In London, I was talking to some diehard smokers and there were French and Italians among them and they were all insulting non-smokers. They said non-smokers were [inappropriate word for the forums] They were furious about, I think it's the Labour Party (?) that wants to push through a law to ban smoking in bars. I did not say a word but they got really more angry when I meekly admitted that I do not smoke, ever. hehe.
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Old 04-07-2007, 06:02 PM
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The family?

Smoking is an individual choice.

The French are almost born with a Gauloises in their mouth.

Try not to be so literal! The family meaning members of the family.
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Try not to be so literal! The family meaning members of the family.
No, I'm serious. Smoking is individual. There are smokers in my family as well. I can tell them that it is a bad habit, but any smoker already is very aware. In the entire EU there is a big warning on each box of cigarettes.

But after all it is their choice and their responsibility. Like it is Andrea's choice and responsibility. Family has not so much to do with it.

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It's sad that people who smoke are being inconvenienced more and more for something that is, after all, their personal choice. There are so many rules in life these days, I think buerocracy has gone mad enforcing one rule on top of another, in a lot of cases just because they can. People know that smoking, like a lot of other things we do in life is dangerous, but it is a personal choice.
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