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Old 05-25-2004, 08:36 AM
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I completely agree Totally Marianne. While change is inevitable and indeed necessary, it occurs ideally when it happens via well-thought-out checks and balances. The older generation taking an active role in the preservation of Monaco is something to be revered.

Oh, & Thank You Totally Marianne for replying! :flower:

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What I like the most about MRF are their charitable activities. Their involvement with humanitarian organizations made awareness of those organizations to bigger public. Caroline became last year goodwill ambassador to UNESCO. Albert and Stephanie contributed to the awareness of AIDS and fight against AIDS. MRF are helping a lot to those who are less privileged. They organize many different events to raise money for good causes. They do really good job.

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Old 05-26-2004, 04:04 AM
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Yeah&#33; Even Marianne, my roommate, had to admit to me that The Royal Family does do a lot of nice things with their charity work. And that is nice too&#33;

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Originally posted by totally_marianne@May 25th, 2004 - 3:49 am
i think the most right thing with monaco is the older inhabitants demanding that someone in charge keep up the traditions & heritage in spite of... gotta remember... the older people of that region are really très parochial... and... they want to keep that heritage more than they want too much more change too quickly... the old-timers really don&#39;t want the corporate or &#39;club med&#39; image to overshadow their past... there&#39;s something to be said for heritage... justa thought...

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Old 05-30-2004, 08:14 AM
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Well from what i have read and heard Monaco seems to be a rather wealthy place a haven for the rich and famous so finanically they must be doing well so they must manage their economy well ^^

Oh and they have a really famous and wealthy casino too...and that is run well as well ^___^
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Originally posted by hillary_nugent@May 30th, 2004 - 8:14 am
Well from what i have read and heard Monaco seems to be a rather wealthy place a haven for the rich and famous so finanically they must be doing well so they must manage their economy well ^^

Oh and they have a really famous and wealthy casino too...and that is run well as well ^___^
...and many bars, clubs…I don’t know anything about those places.

Monaco is the right place for fun and pleasure.
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An article from the Scotsman today:

Can medieval Monaco survive the 21st century?


IN A quirk of time and space, a motorist can leave France’s A8 motorway near Nice and, without seeing so much as a welcome sign, downshift into a jet-age version of the 12th century.

But the 900-year-old enclave of Monaco is an anachronism at risk as a different sort of Europe takes shape. Medieval Monaco, with its storybook palace looming on a rock above the high-roller casino of Monte Carlo, is in some danger of melting away into France.

Rainier III, the ramrod-straight prince who spent 50 years turning an oddment of history on a speck of barren Riviera coast into a sparkling hideout for the eccentric rich, is 81 and ailing.

For three weeks, he was treated in hospital for "general fatigue" and then spent 12 more days in the hospital for what the palace described as heart problems.

Rainier’s son, Albert, is heir apparent. Though shy and retiring at 46, he is nonetheless popular in the tiny principality.

Still, the world is changing quickly around Monaco. Its French neighbours now belong to a 25-nation European Union bent on eradicating old anomalies. To survive, it is likely to need a tough-minded ruler.

For many close to the inner circle, such as Nadia Lacoste, Albert is plainly up to the job. Lacoste was palace spokeswoman in the heady days of Princess Grace, the actress Grace Kelly, who died in 1982. "Albert will be a wonderful prince," she said. "On his own, he’ll show a dynamic personality and effective leadership."

Other insiders expect Albert to withdraw from public life, although none agree to be named, fearing regal wrath.

If the unmarried prince has no heir, or steps aside, his sister Princess Caroline of Hanover is next in line. Then comes Stephanie, a photographers’ favourite for her serial rebellious liaisons.

French authorities refuse comment on the status of Monaco, but a message was sent in 1962, when President Charles de Gaulle resolved an economic dispute with a bald show of force, and Rainier backed down in a face-saving compromise.

Monaco’s independence is in many ways a state of mind. It issues passports and postage stamps. An elected legislative council drafts bills for the prince to sign. The principality belongs to the United Nations.

But even before the EU abolished checks at French road borders, visitors breezed into Monaco without realising it. The currency is now the euro. And Monaco’s prince chooses his prime minister from among three Frenchmen picked in Paris.

Quietly but increasingly, people speculate that a future French government will be tempted to exert sovereignty in the absence of a strong leader.

Certainly, Rainier’s shoes will be hard to fill. The prince has spent most of his life remaking Monaco. In the 1950s, he wooed and wed Grace Kelly at the peak of her Hollywood fame, taking the little state into the realm of fairytale. When the princess died on a hairpin bend on the road from Nice, he channelled his grief into yet more public works.

Still tiny, with a population of 32,000 that includes only 7,000 citizens, Monaco grew by 20 per cent on reclaimed land.

After high-rise flats climbed up the mountainside, builders dug deep for underground office space and more parking for Ferraris and Lamborghinis.

Old Monaco, atop its rocky bluff, takes in the turreted stone palace, the cathedral where Grace’s remains are entombed, and a few narrow cobbled streets of ministries and tourist shops.

Monte Carlo lies below, spreading beyond a small port choked with the giant white yachts of European industry kings and Middle Eastern potentates.

Official estimates put the gross domestic product near 750 million (£500 million), making per capita income of more than 22,500 among the world’s highest.

France has urged Monaco to crack down on money laundering, and EU authorities have pressed for a loosening of bank secrecy. In December, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) named only five countries as unco-operative tax havens: Andorra, Liberia, Liechtenstein, the Marshall Islands and Monaco.

Monaco’s government clearly feels a need to adapt to this new European order.

Also, it needs a broader tax base. "Without doubt, we must diversify, bring in new industries and businesses that go beyond casinos and tourism," said Frank Biancheri, the economy minister.

The old attraction is waning. Perpetually jammed traffic dampens the Mediterranean mood. Prices are high.

After Italy allowed its countrymen to repatriate questionable fortunes, 5,000 people moved home to Italy.

Monaco’s character has changed dramatically. "Visitors came for an entire season," said Jacques Ferreyrolles, 83, whose family has run the Balmoral Hotel since 1896. "They had style, a sense of class. Now they just come and go in a few days ... The Americans now, they don’t even change for dinner."

For many Monegasques, the Royal mystique is also wearing thin. Caroline’s third husband, Prince Ernst August of Hanover, has been in trouble for punching a German photographer and a hotel owner. Stephanie, with two children born out of wedlock, periodically scandalises Monaco.

On the streets, opinions are mixed. Some are rude about their royalty. Others are enthusiastic.

But nearly everyone defines the principality by its prince, Lucie Rinaldi, a shipchandler at the old port for 40 years, shrugged when asked about a future after Rainier.

"We don’t know much about what happens up on the Rock. But we know what he has done for Monaco. We will miss him and, whatever does happen next, the place won’t be the same."
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Old 07-04-2004, 05:58 PM
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Thanks, for the post. I was about to post the article. I have no doubt that in the future all royal families will have problems to keep to their thrones. I believe Albert has a good change to survive. And if he will able to figure out his personal life, I can tell you for sure he will be around for a long time. I just hope he won’t end up with some dumb beauty.

We simply need Monaco the world wouldn’t be the same place. I had mention earlier about Monaco’s relation with EU. Some work need to be done. Today’s political and economical situation is changing very quickly. We are in a process of globalization and world is becoming a small place.
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Old 07-05-2004, 03:38 AM
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I agree. All royal families must find a way to keep up with the changing world environment while holding on to age-old traditions. It&#39;s a difficult balance to say the least. I guess that&#39;s also true for businesses....they must always find innovative ways to market their products, services, what have you, to stay afloat. Just think of the many ways Coca-Cola and Pepsi have marketed themselves throughout the years. Still the same "great taste" with variations along the way. Or, like Madonna who has gone from pop queen to Material Girl to her Justify-My-Love video days, to yoga fanatic, to Kaballah follower, to children&#39;s books author.

I also agree that Albert has to sort out his personal life. Maybe he already has but still hasn&#39;t met that person. That person must realize that it&#39;s not champagne wishes and caviar dreams every day. I mean, aside from She has got to have the business sense to know how to keep the family enterprise afloat, and be strong enough to take in the challenges ahead with grace.
Old 07-05-2004, 08:35 AM
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Once Albert marries Florence Henderson, everything will be fine.
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Old 07-05-2004, 09:09 AM
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GrandDuchess-Thanks for posting this interesting article.

Independent Woman-I fully agree the world needs Monaco. It is a gem that is getting more valuable as the world around it spurs rapidly into the future.

Rarotonga-You nailed it. While it is imperative Monaco holds tightly onto its history and traditions, it too must evolve in order to effectively work with outside entities.

Grecka- good one. Thanks for the laugh. :P

My two cents-I really do not see a need for Albert to rush into a marriage. He&#39;ll do just fine managing Monaco on his own. Sure it may be more enjoyable with the right woman by his side, but it&#39;s not critical to Monaco&#39;s future. There are plenty of other heirs around to take over should the eventual need arise. Furthermore, I think Monaco is showing its willingness to evolve. It is seeking other avenues to derive income, it remains diligently involved in world affairs, all the while continuing to preserve the qualities that make Monaco unique and special. I don&#39;t think there is any place (even remotely) like it in the world, and for that reason I can&#39;t imagine it falling out of favor.
Old 07-05-2004, 11:50 PM
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Well they&#39;re been around for over 700 years now...they&#39;re survived that long despite many obstacles and people&#39;s doubt there is not reason really that the can&#39;t survive another 700 years ^__^
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Old 07-06-2004, 12:24 AM
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Have any of Caroline&#39;s children shown an active interest in the actual business of running Monaco? It is a near absolute-principality, right? With the PR having a great deal of power.
Old 07-06-2004, 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by Paulina@Jul 5th, 2004 - 11:24 pm
Have any of Caroline&#39;s children shown an active interest in the actual business of running Monaco? It is a near absolute-principality, right? With the PR having a great deal of power.
I haven&#39;t noticed any real active involvement in running Monaco from Caroline&#39;s children apart from the occasional appearance with their mother and step-father at certain functions and celebration but apart from that there most active involvement would be looking pretty and cute and providing the press with their latest gossip :P
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Old 08-25-2004, 08:07 AM
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Australian visit?

Has any of the Monegasque royals ever been to Australia?
Old 08-25-2004, 10:58 AM
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Prince Albert was there before and during the Sydney Olympics. I don't know about the others of the Princely family.
Old 08-27-2004, 08:22 AM
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Ah....when Pierre and i marry there will definitely be MANY Monegasque royal visits to Australia but until then we just hope that another city in Australia gets to host the Olympics again!!! hahaha
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Principalities have no kings, only sovereign princes .. so even when he takes over the crown, he will remain a prince ... but NO longer Hereditary Prince, but Sovereign Prince.

Natalie Portman is wonderful, beautiful and intelligent with her Harvard background.

One has to ask themselves, he has had access to ALL Hollywood women for decades, and he has NOT taken up with ANY of them. He is looking for something else. Something different. He does NOT have the same needs his father did and he does NOT want to see someone's career clipped like his mother's ... the sadness would be too great for him to watch.

Also, he needs someone he loves who can weather the beating she will take from the media and relatives.

He will choose someone flawed with a portable career and who can stand her ground with all those around him.

He will choose someone his sister's love and get along with and he will have some children.

I have heard it said that he will find a woman in a country which ties her to more than one country with French and English-speaking people, this would naturally increase trade and tourism to Monaco; and she will be bright, intelligent, have weathered great ordeals in life which will make her perfect to handle anything which is thrown at her, she will be talented in her own rights, able to have a business/financial conversation with him and others in his circle, but be able to step back out of the limelight and make him shine even more with her modesty.

He will marry someone with a deep spiritual background, remember, he adored his mother who believed in angels, spirits, astrology, fortune-tellers, and Fate more than anyone else around him. He will look for someone who indulges this part of him as few people are centred and deep enough to be open to this and be well-educated.

She will look more like his sisters than his mother, he has had little luck with blondes and is very, VERY comfortable with his sisters.

This is hard to find and he is still looking for these qualities.

But he is STILL looking and he will find her next year! Just wait and see!

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He will marry someone from an exotic location who is well-bred and speaks English and French and who can captivate an audience for more than her looks and acting or singing .. she will be someone who will be changing the world when he meets her ...

He wants to marry someone he feels is better than he is ... then he will be happy having her love him back ...
Old 09-02-2004, 11:58 AM
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so you say he is gay-i guess i would be happy too if i had all that money-lol
but here is a thought-can he really marry whomever he wants;black or white, very poor etc?
my personal opinion is he couldnt,he would have to stay with a certain type of person.

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