General information and questions about Monaco and the Princely Family

[Renata4711]

The Monaco Government has presented the budget to the National Council.

Words like "morosité", "inquiétude" and "fort déficit" were in the air when the 2011 budget was discussed. "La crise" was not totally to blame, though.

[Nathalie Cox]

Does anyone know if there will be any celebrations for tomorrow? I think tomorrow is the 6th Anniversary of Albert II in the throne.

[NGalitzine]

Originally Posted by Nathalie Cox

Does anyone know if there will be any celebrations for tomorrow? I think tomorrow is the 6th Anniversary of Albert II in the throne.

He accended the throne the day his father died, not in July when he had a sort of investiture after the mourning period ended. His reign began the moment Rainier died.

[Nathalie Cox]

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

He accended the throne the day his father died, not in July when he had a sort of investiture after the mourning period ended. His reign began the moment Rainier died.

Oh, i was expecting something for tomorrow.
Well, nevermind.
Thanks!

[Printemps]

I was wondering, does anyone here know about any reactions from Rainier or Albert regarding the 1998 and 2002 books by Cori Kirk?
(The reactions, if any, would have to have been very private, I assume, because there's no sign of them in publicly available resources.)

I should note that I am not particularly gullible - certainly no more than most people appear to be. :)

However, these books name names - very specific names, and very specific events. I have only browsed through the more recent one (Finding Grace in Monaco), and certainly it is no roman a clef. Which is why I find it odd that there seems to have been no apparent - or, more accurately, no recorded - attempt to deny her claims.

I know that, speaking generally, there is no better strategy than absolute stone-cold refusal to even acknowledge the existence of anyone we find unpleasant to the extreme; I know that, my mother trained me well, thank you, mami. :)

However, this is a luxury that few very prominent personalities can afford, especially those who are attached to a very traditional image of themselves in the eyes of the public - such as monarchs.

So, it is my hope that somebody here knows more about this lady and the Grimaldi's possible reactions to her.

If so, I'd be grateful if you'd share this information.
Thank you.


P.S. Believe it or not, I am researching this for perfectly valid (and utterly un-scandalous) purposes. :)

[Renata4711]

Sorry, never heard of it.

[NGalitzine]

Never heard of the author either, but suspect she lives in some sort of fantasy land and her readers may need to suspend belief to finish the book. She claims that Prince Louis de Polignac groomed her to be Prince Alberts wife and that Albert urged her to make Monaco her permanent residence but that she turned him down.

From the Amazon listing for the book: "Cori Kirk's FINDING GRACE IN MONACO is an authentic documentation of the author's extraordinary spiritual quest, and the unforseen turn of events that led to her becoming an unofficial "princess" in Monaco. Kirk shares with readers the intricate workings of royalty from a non-journalistic position in her first-hand account of living amongst the royal family of Monaco. Struggling with personal losses - financial ruin, divorce and raising her young child in Victoria, Kirk took a leap of faith and escaped to Monaco in search of work."

She now apparently lives in British Columbia and is some sort of a nutritional consultant.

[Renata4711]

Some decades ago, Monaco used to have a Carnaval.
The King of the monegasque carnaval was U Sciaratu.

Tomorrow, from 5 pm, the Carnaval will be inaugurated again, with floats, costumes, music..... and at the Palais.

A good idea to move the carnaval from freezing February to the warmest month of the year !

http://www.cityoutmonaco.com/monaco-...o-goes-to-town

[KittyAtlanta]

Oh, how fun!!! People do tend to be more foolish in high summer!

[Renata4711]

Here's a bit more:

Sciaratu prend d'assaut la Principauté | monacomatin.com

[American Observer7]

I am sure that Prince Albert, Princess Caroline, and Princess Stepanie all travel overseas for official duties but how do they travel. Do they each have a royal plane that they use or do that share one as a family. I know Monaco does not have an airport. So, how does that work?

[FanofMonaco]

All have traveled commercial from time to time. I think PA is the only one with a plane. They may also go by private charter sometimes. The Casiraghis are also part owners of a helicopter company based in Monaco. It flies along the riviera, N. Italy and also as far north as Switzerland, but not to Paris.

[iceflower]

In addition to the already given information: as Monaco does not have an own airport, they use the nearby
French airport of Nice. We've often seen pictures of the Princesses and their children at Nice airport and
Prince Albert's private jet has been pitured there as well.

[American Observer7]

I was just looking at the guest list for the Queen Mother's funeral and Prince Albert was there representing Monaco and his sister and her husband were also there but Caroline was there for the House of Hanover not Monaco. However Princess Caroline is still a Monaco Princess but she was not there for Monaco. That is strange. And they had her listed as follows:


HRH Caroline, Princess of Hanover, Princess of Monaco. My question is why? Caroline is Princess born therefore styled by her own name, right? Charlene is supposed to written like this, HSH Charlene, Princess of Monaco but not Caroline. How does that work?

And isn't Princess Alexandra a member of the House of Grimaldi as well as Hanover as she is 5th in line for the Monaco throne? When you read about her articles lists only the House of Hanover and not her mom's family.

[Lumutqueen]

Possible because the House of Hanover, outranks the House of Grimaldi.

[dbarn67]

Rankings is one thing but isn't it more simple to say that royalty is a traditional construct? And as a traditional construct a woman's married status will always come before her maiden status. Heck even Prince Philip is, the Duke of Edinbugh first, a prince of the Greek royal house.

[FanofMonaco]

Agree with the above. Princess of Hanover is PC's married name and Hanover is Alexandra's last name from her father. The Casiraghi's also choose to remain using their father's last name rather than Grimaldi. Any of the above can always switch to Grimaldi if it becomes necessary.

[American Observer7]

HRH Princess Caroline of Hanover

HRH The Princess of Hanover

HRH Caroline, Princess of Hanover, Princess of Monaco


Which is correct? I was told that the same rules apply in Monaco just like Great Britain, a woman not of royal blood cannot be styled as a Princess with her own name. This is the case with Charlene despite what is written. But Caroline like Alexandra is princess born this styled with their own names.

Did Caroline take her late husband's late name when she married him even thoough he had no royal title?

[cdm]

It depends on the country I think.
In Germany the noble titles don't exist anymore so there she is Caroline Prinzessin von Hanover (Prinzessin von Hannover is her last name).
Monaco does recognize the title so there she is SAR la Princesse de Hannovre.

According to the Palace website Charlene is SAS la Princesse Charlène de Monaco.
And she can sign Charlène de Monaco.
I don't think the British style is used in Monaco, but is used a lot by the press and on forums because the british royals are known best?

[Lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by American Observer7

HRH Princess Caroline of Hanover

HRH The Princess of Hanover

HRH Caroline, Princess of Hanover, Princess of Monaco


Which is correct?

Caroline is currently styled, Her Royal Highness The Princess of Hanover, Hereditary Princess of Monaco.

Before her father's death she was, Her Royal Highness The Princess of Hanover, Princess of Monaco.

Before her marriage to EA she was, Her Serene Highness Princess Caroline of Monaco.