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Where have you got this info from? A website?
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I know little stories...
Oleg Cassini said that "the time he spent with Grace in Cannes during the filming of "To Catch a thief" was the most beutiful and nice time that he lived ever".
Grace´s favourite meat was freeze chicken. It als was her favourite breakfast. She asked for it to US and then the chicken was sending to Monaco. I think it´s funny because it´s an american details in a french palace.
In the school, Caroline, Albert and Stephanie were called "Grimi" or "The Grimis".
The last thing that Princess Grace said was to her daughter Steph, afther the crash and meanwhile they were waiting for the ambulance, it was "I am sorry".
Grace lost her virginity with one of her best friends´s husband. Gracie was 18 and it was in Philadelphia. Grace went to visit her friend but she wasn´t at home, however the husband was. He said to Grace to stay and wait for her: "My wife will arrive soon". Few minutes later they were in bed.
Grace was called "Graciebird" or "Gracie" by family and closed friends.
In the Barbizon, meanwhile she was studying in the NY Academy of DA, she was one of the most funny girls. She usually drink a lot when she went out with her colleages and she usually go nude by the residence trying to don´t be discovered by the residence´s supvisor. I think it was exciting for her.
Grimaldi family were closed friends of Franco Family (Spain dictator Francisco Franco´s wife, daughter, son in law and grandchildren) and they also had relashionship with the Borbon family. Grace admire Queen Victoria Eugenia a lot and she asked her to be the godmother of Prince Albert in 1958. In 1979, Duke and Duchess of Cadiz (Alfonso and Carmen of Borbon and Dampierre) went to Caroline´s wedding with Phillipe Junot.
Grace last single apartment was located in 955, 5th ave. NY. But I don´t know exactly what was the flat number.
The friendship between Grace and Jackie Kennedy broked in 1963, the day that John F Kennedy was killed. That day there was a party in the MonteCarlo´s Casino and Princess Grace didn´t cancelled it. This fact annoyed Jackie a lot and she never forgot it to Grace who was american and due Jackie think it was not patriotic.
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-"Grace Kelly: An American Princess" TV Documentary for BIOGRAPHY CHANNEL.
- "Grace Kelly: The Secret Life of a Princess" by James Spada.
- Grace Kelly Online Website ( www.gracekellyonline.com).
- Life Images.
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08-08-2010, 02:52 PM
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Where have you got this info from? A website?
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Oh, my sources:
- book by J. robinson
- book by D. Ducruet
- various recent interviews
- friends/relatives
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... Stephanie loves to watch Law & Order
...some of Stephanies favourite casual brands are Abercrombie and Fitch, Morgan and Adidas.
... Stephanie has a house on Mauritius Island and the last time she was there with her kids they couldn't get back because of the volcaniv ash problem.
... Rob Lowe dated Stephanie in the 80s and before their first date he took a shower 4 times and started to prepare himself over and over again.
...that Grace had the idea for the design of the AS Monaco Football Club jerseys in the 1960s.
...Stephanie swims 1,5 to 2 km every morning.
...Camille loves the theatre - she has drama lessons... so behold her futur...
... about the Caroline and Stephanie - toilet- inceident ?
When Caro was 10 and Steph was 2/3 , Caro was playing with friends and found her little sister a tad too anoying she took her to the bathroom and tried to lower her head into the toilet ... ( Seriously Caro, have you gone bonkers      )
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Re: Camille: do we see the future Grace Kelly, perhaps? Since they say that talent like that skips a generation....  either her or Jazmin, I'm guessing...I'm not seeing Charlie, Alex or Liney taking on the task of constantly being compared to their grandmother like that.
Re:Caro: that's even funnier than the biting story....haha. And really...I guess someone didn't enjoy having two younger siblings....
Re: Mauritius Island: wasn't there pics of that trip somewhere? a photo op with her, her kids and some of their friends who came along on the trip, with an article? And wasn't one of her music videos filmed there as well?
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[QUOTE=Thtregoddess11;1122463]Re: Camille: do we see the future Grace Kelly, perhaps? Since they say that talent like that skips a generation....  either her or Jazmin, I'm guessing...I'm not seeing Charlie, Alex or Liney taking on the task of constantly being compared to their grandmother like that.
Re:Caro: that's even funnier than the biting story....haha. And really...I guess someone didn't enjoy having two younger siblings....
Re: Mauritius Island: wasn't there pics of that trip somewhere? a photo op with her, her kids and some of their friends who came along on the trip, with an article? And wasn't one of her music videos filmed there as well?[/QUOTE]
I'll fill in for Seb here. Yeah, you're absolutely right about that.
Guess I have some more.
... in another gameshow Stephanie took part in she couldn't remember how many times Albert took part in the Olympic games. She said 4, it was 5 times.
... Camille was a fan of french singer Shy'm for a while. Don't know if she still is.
... Louis is/was a fan of the NRJ radio show "MIKL - Sans Interdit"
... Pauline and Charlotte are both fans of "Greys Anatomy",
... Albert was so mad at Daniel for cheating on Stephanie that he had to be held back by friends. He wanted to go after him and punch him.
( it's alright now - Daniel is Louis and Pauline's father, they love him and it should be that way)
... Caroline and Stephanie both love Coke Zero.
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[QUOTE=michelle;1122481]
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Originally Posted by Thtregoddess11
Re: Camille: do we see the future Grace Kelly, perhaps? Since they say that talent like that skips a generation....  either her or Jazmin, I'm guessing...I'm not seeing Charlie, Alex or Liney taking on the task of constantly being compared to their grandmother like that.
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Originally Posted by Thtregoddess11
Re:Caro: that's even funnier than the biting story....haha. And really...I guess someone didn't enjoy having two younger siblings....
Re: Mauritius Island: wasn't there pics of that trip somewhere? a photo op with her, her kids and some of their friends who came along on the trip, with an article? And wasn't one of her music videos filmed there as well?[/QUOTE]
I'll fill in for Seb here. Yeah, you're absolutely right about that.
Guess I have some more.
... in another gameshow Stephanie took part in she couldn't remember how many times Albert took part in the Olympic games. She said 4, it was 5 times.
... Camille was a fan of french singer Shy'm for a while. Don't know if she still is.
... Louis is/was a fan of the NRJ radio show "MIKL - Sans Interdit"
... Pauline and Charlotte are both fans of "Greys Anatomy",
... Albert was so mad at Daniel for cheating on Stephanie that he had to be held back by friends. He wanted to go after him and punch him.
( it's alright now - Daniel is Louis and Pauline's father, they love him and it should be that way)
... Caroline and Stephanie both love Coke Zero.
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Thought so. Thanks.
A few more:
-In the 15th century, John Grimaldi, lord of Monaco, formally established in his will (1454) the Rules of Succession. source
Claudia, a granddaughter of John, happened to have no brothers to ensure the succession. Following the succession rule, she therefore married (1465) her cousin Lambert Grimaldi of Antibes, which legitimately kept her dynasty on the throne. source
-Prince Albert is a fan of House.
-Monaco's name comes from Ancient Greek and means Single house. A Phocaean Greek colony near Monaco's present location was known as "Monoikos". Its name comes from two Greek words, "monos" which means one or solo, and "oikos" which means house. However, archaeological evidence has shown that Monaco has been inhabited for over 300,000 years - certainly a very long time. The first permanent settlement of the area was by tribes from Italy called Ligures.source
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I wish i knew the sources of your posts guys. Really interesting info about the Monaco family.
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08-09-2010, 11:15 AM
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Expanding a little snipped from the previous post:
Mono is Greek and means single. Remember records in Mono and Stereo ??
Monoikos comes from Mono and from oikos whose basic meaning is "house", but is also the root for all words starting with eco, e.g. ecology, economy.
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I wish i knew the sources of your posts guys. Really interesting info about the Monaco family.
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Expanding a little snipped from the previous post:
Mono is Greek and means single. Remember records in Mono and Stereo ??
Monoikos comes from Mono and from oikos whose basic meaning is "house", but is also the root for all words starting with eco, e.g. ecology, economy.
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Azure, most of mine are sourced right there. The tidbit about Albert and House, I read in an article somewhere. I think he said something about it "being a good way to relax" in an interview recently somewhere.
A few more, that may already be here:
- Prince Albert has his look-alike puppet in the French show "Les guignols de l'info" (1988). (his IMDB.com page)
-Prince Albert:"I'm afraid my dance moves are not all they might be as I have a bad leg. My favourite music is R&B, and I love to dance to Beyonce." (imdb.com again...)
-PA, PC and PS's (and the elder De Massy clan as well-Elisabeth, Christian and Christine)'s great-great-great-great grandmother was Yolande Martine Gabrielle de Polastron, duchesse de Polignac, who has been played, among others, by Rose Byrne, Claudia Cardinale, and Ruth Hussey. (all three of their imdb.com pages)
And this one's probably here somewhere:
-Did you know that Andrea, Charlotte, Pierre, Louis, Pauline (and probably Camille) were all born in the same private room at the Princess Grace Hospital in Monte-Carlo? (ovbiously at different times) (source: I read it a while back in some interview Daniel did or was it a book...?)
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This thread is simply wonderful !
Does anyone know why the Duchesse de Polignac was so often immortalised on the silver screen??
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I know little stories...
Oleg Cassini said that "the time he spent with Grace in Cannes during the filming of "To Catch a thief" was the most beutiful and nice time that he lived ever".
Grace´s favourite meat was freeze chicken. It als was her favourite breakfast. She asked for it to US and then the chicken was sending to Monaco. I think it´s funny because it´s an american details in a french palace.
In the school, Caroline, Albert and Stephanie were called "Grimi" or "The Grimis".
The last thing that Princess Grace said was to her daughter Steph, afther the crash and meanwhile they were waiting for the ambulance, it was "I am sorry".
Grace lost her virginity with one of her best friends´s husband. Gracie was 18 and it was in Philadelphia. Grace went to visit her friend but she wasn´t at home, however the husband was. He said to Grace to stay and wait for her: "My wife will arrive soon". Few minutes later they were in bed.
Grace was called "Graciebird" or "Gracie" by family and closed friends.
In the Barbizon, meanwhile she was studying in the NY Academy of DA, she was one of the most funny girls. She usually drink a lot when she went out with her colleages and she usually go nude by the residence trying to don´t be discovered by the residence´s supvisor. I think it was exciting for her.
Grimaldi family were closed friends of Franco Family (Spain dictator Francisco Franco´s wife, daughter, son in law and grandchildren) and they also had relashionship with the Borbon family. Grace admire Queen Victoria Eugenia a lot and she asked her to be the godmother of Prince Albert in 1958. In 1979, Duke and Duchess of Cadiz (Alfonso and Carmen of Borbon and Dampierre) went to Caroline´s wedding with Phillipe Junot.
Grace last single apartment was located in 955, 5th ave. NY. But I don´t know exactly what was the flat number.
The friendship between Grace and Jackie Kennedy broked in 1963, the day that John F Kennedy was killed. That day there was a party in the MonteCarlo´s Casino and Princess Grace didn´t cancelled it. This fact annoyed Jackie a lot and she never forgot it to Grace who was american and due Jackie think it was not patriotic.
Source:
-"Grace Kelly: An American Princess" TV Documentary for BIOGRAPHY CHANNEL.
- "Grace Kelly: The Secret Life of a Princess" by James Spada.
- Grace Kelly Online Website ( www.gracekellyonline.com).
- Life Images.
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Some of this is speculation rather than fact. For example the story about the Princess losing her virginity cannot be accurately verified.
Also Princess Grace was unconscious from the time of her accident until she died. She would not have been able to speak to her daughter.
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Roderik,
All that I have posted here has got a source.
The first thing is from James Spada book, in wich he talk about that as a fact. He talk with Grace´s friend. Not everybody loved Grace, that´s sad but true.
And about the accident It based in "Grace Kelly American Princess" by the BBC so I think it´s true, it´s a prestigious TV channel.
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08-10-2010, 11:03 PM
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Once a person dies you can say anything about them you want and the family can't collect for slander. At least that's the law in the US.
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Well, if James Spada told about that I think he ventured too much, no?
But anyway that is a details that I don´t mind so much, if she lost her virginity with a friend husband or not isn´t of my interest, i admire her in every conditions.
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08-11-2010, 11:53 AM
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here you have a part of the chapter about this thread:
"She allegedly lost her virginity to a friend's husband. The story goes she was visiting a friend who wasn't home. She was made welcome by the friend's husband and they decided to sleep together. This was before she enrolled in the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in October 1947. She claimed later to have engineered the liaison, not wishing to arrive at college inexperienced in the ways of love. Later when her prospective marriage to Prince Ranier required her to be virgo intacta she was examined by the Royal Monegasque surgeon and allegedly claimed her hymen had been broken while playing hockey at school."
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=es
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08-11-2010, 05:27 PM
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Because an author has written something in a book does not prove authenticity. There are many published books particularly biographies on royal personages that are riddled with errors.
Prince Rainier refuted allegations that Princess Grace submitted to a virginity test. He said she did not even have a health check up before they married as far as he knew.
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We can be sure for nothing actually. So, digging up old stories or rumours is not a big deal for me. I mean, we will never learn the truth about it. What's the point of all this speculation. Someone may believe in this story, someone skeptical may not. :)
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Wow... this conversation is getting a little creepy.  Why is it so important whether Grace was a virgin or not? She was no saint, that's for sure.
However, I would like to point out that just because Rainier says something, it doesn't mean it's true either.  Unless the truth is blindingly obvious. In this case, I would hope that it isn't.
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Wow... this conversation is getting a little creepy.  Why is it so important whether Grace was a virgin or not? She was no saint, that's for sure.
However, I would like to point out that just because Rainier says something, it doesn't mean it's true either.  Unless the truth is blindingly obvious. In this case, I would hope that it isn't. 
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you are in my mind  same thoughts here.
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I have never said that the virginity lose of Grace with a friend´s husband was a true fact. It´s only a fact that a writter told in a book. I really don´t mind anything about grace´sex life so don´t think it´s an attack to her. I admire her as a saint or not. And I admire her like you.
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