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Based on the above article -- Prince Friso is no where near death. He has greater brain function that I had been led to believe. The Prince is no Teri Schavo.
There are clinical trials on treatments - some appear promising.
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He still has massive brain damage due to oxygen deprivation.
I can't imagine anyone wishing to live like that, if s/he had the choice.
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I feel so sorry for princess mabel
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Based on the above article -- Prince Friso is no where near death. He has greater brain function that I had been led to believe. The Prince is no Teri Schavo.
There are clinical trials on treatments - some appear promising.
To which clinical trials do you refer to to treat Brain Anoxia of 45+ minutes? I am not aware of them. Can you share them with us? Thanks!
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:46 PM
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To which clinical trials do you refer to to treat Brain Anoxia of 45+ minutes? I am not aware of them. Can you share them with us? Thanks!
I'm guessing there's wouldn't be many participants in that trial.
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:03 PM
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If you read the Wiki article on minimum consciousness mentioned in the post before mine you would understand my post
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:28 PM
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Actually, I find it even more distressing. He won't die on his own, as he doesn't need machines. Minimal consciousness states are not good. They are just above a vegetative state and below the functioning of any normal infant or even a severely brain-handicapped infant.

What clinical trials are being done? Brain cell/stem cell nerve regeneration? Cortical cells are a long way off from being reproduced, but even if they were, he wouldn't be "himself," those new neurons would have to learn all over again to do everything he's learned since childhood.

It's a terrible situation, very sad. My heart goes out to Princess Mabel, and to him, too. I've never thought that the spirits of the people in hospital who were minimally conscious were still there, but that's a personal belief - it is very hard to let go of a body that isn't functioning. If the spirit is still there, it's sad to think how trapped it is. His heart and lungs are probably still healthy and will last a long time...
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I am not sure he is off a respirator. The minimally conscious are not good candidates for much and are hardly above vegetative states. There is, always, research going on, but I doubt that a man deprived of oxygen for 50 minutes or so would be in that kind of research. I, suspect, he move to Holland was to "bring him home". Otherwise he would be in some "trial" now. There would have been no reason to bring him anywhere, except his next care facility.
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Old 07-24-2013, 06:23 PM
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Based on the above article -- Prince Friso is no where near death. He has greater brain function that I had been led to believe. The Prince is no Teri Schavo.
There are clinical trials on treatments - some appear promising.
If you have read the article then you know that they are using the Disability Rating Scale (DRS) to judge how much the patients can do, and the scale is from 30 (dead) to 0 (no disability). We know that Friso is not a 30, nor a 0, but the public have not been informed where on the scale his abilities are today, so we don't know how much brain functions he has.

As for the recovery rate of patients with MCS, only 3 out of 100 patients have reached full recovery, and all three of them had suffered traumatic brain injuries. In the case of Friso he sufffered a non-traumatic brain injury and as the Wikipedia article clearly states:
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As for the Terri Schavo case, of the five doctors who examined her during the trial, three judged that she was in a persistent vegetative state while two judged that she was in a minimally conscious state.
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If you have read the article then you know that they are using the Disability Rating Scale (DRS) to judge how much the patients can do, and the scale is from 30 (dead) to 0 (no disability). We know that Friso is not a 30, nor a 0, but the public have not been informed where on the scale his abilities are today, so we don't know how much brain functions he has.

As for the recovery rate of patients with MCS, only 3 out of 100 patients have reached full recovery, and all three of them had suffered traumatic brain injuries. In the case of Friso he sufffered a non-traumatic brain injury and as the Wikipedia article clearly states:


As for the Terri Schavo case, of the five doctors who examined her during the trial, three judged that she was in a persistent vegetative state while two judged that she was in a minimally conscious state.
Very perceptive. Also, 3 of the doctors claimed she followed objects, but after autopsy she was deemed blind. This is tremendously difficult material for many, but, I am sure, for the family. That they have fought up until this point to keep him alive, is quite understandable. Perhaps, he can sustain on his own, I do not know. I wish them well and peace, that this tale of "recovery" is spread, discomforts me. As I, believe, IMHO, that where he is now is not reversible.
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