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Old 02-20-2012, 08:39 AM
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I just found the information that prince Friso did not wear an airbag because of the heavy weight of that. Seems that Florian Moosbrugger, his friend, is an active member of the "Bergwacht" rescue team and thus is trained in carrying heavier weights while going skiing, so he took the airbag-equipment while the prince who might not have been so trained, decided against it.
Not be so trained?He was born with ski's on instead of pampers!Friso,as all members of the RF,is an absolutely excellent skiier regardless what slopes.They all rather take the black and off slopes,all of 'm.But hey,an avalange never announces itself.

I can only imagine how awfull FM must feel,poor guy.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:46 AM
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That's something I'll never get... I was in Austria myself last week and all over Tyrol people were warned again and again several times NOT to leave the safe piste.
People were warned via radio, TV, signs at the piste itself etc.. As mentioned before the warning of a descent of an avalache was 4 on a scale of 5. WHY do people have to leave the piste anyway? It's just not responsible.

However: What happened to Friso is horrible. I really hope he'll recover. My thoughts are with his family.
I ski avidly and have since I was a little girl. Skiing off trail (or piste) means an opportunity to ski in the most amazing fresh powder and a lot of times one can be tricked into a false sense of security because the groomed trail are so (relatively) safe, you just sort of forget in the moment.

I wear avalanche beacons whenever I ski, purely out of precaution. If I'm tempted to ski of trail, I at least have the beacons. While I listen to the reports, it's still my decision to go or not and 9 times out of 10, I choose off trail when presented the chance.

I am praying for the Dutch Royal Family and Prince Friso I the aftermath of this horrible accident. And also for the others effected. The other skier who was with him must be in a horrible place right now as far as guilt goes and I do hope he realizes he's not to blame.
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It won't stop speculation I fear (yesterday several medical experts were interviewed if the 'no news' -thing was a good or a bad sign), but at this point very little will stop it.
It's a variation of 'Horror Vacui' - fear of the empty space! We don't like empty spaces and seek to fill them with whatever we have to fill them with. In journalism the filling matter is called speculation, which - by the way - is what a lot of us TRF members are guilty of too !
I suppose it's only human....it's certainly a way of communicating and sharing our interests in all things royal!

Regarding the photos in#363: Now we'll start speculating why Princess Mabel is smiling!

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Old 02-20-2012, 10:59 AM
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Regarding the photos in#363: Now we'll start speculating why Princess Mabel is smiling!

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Maybe she was thinking about happy moments with Prince Friso!
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:07 AM
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Maybe she was thinking about happy moments with Prince Friso!
Maybe that too,but the Princess was smiling at her oldest daughter Countess Luana,and all the other grandchildren of HM The Queen as they were off to the slopes with uncle Alex and aunt Máxima while Mabel herself was off to Friso with HM,her mother and youngest daughter Countess Zaria.....

Alexander & Mäxima,and Constantijn & Laurentien.These four have my greatest admiration for being the enormous wonderfull uncles and aunts any kid could wish for.They keep the children out of the spotlights & misery and into the fun day to day while they themselves are worried and saddened they smile and make fun with the children..Admirable!
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:11 AM
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Lucien, many thanks for all your information and updates. You always do a great job in this forum !!

I agree with you, I think they are admirable trying to keep the kids out of this situation and being with them !! I really love the Dutch Royal Family, I think all of them are really great human beings !!!

My best wishes for Prince Friso, he is in my prayers every day !!
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:11 AM
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Not be so trained?He was born with ski's on instead of pampers!Friso,as all members of the RF,is an absolutely excellent skiier regardless what slopes.They all rather take the black and off slopes,all of 'm.But hey,an avalange never announces itself.

I can only imagine how awfull FM must feel,poor guy.
I didn't want to imply that prince Friso is not an excellent skier. But it's a difference if you are trained to ski with a heavy rucksack like the mountain rescue team members are or if you are out to enjoy the perfect skiing day as a tourist. For untrained skiers carrying the avalanche rucksack takes a bit of the easy going fun out of the experience, that's all I wanted to say.

My son's a member of a medical rescue team and they train regularily to run longer distances carrying their heavy equipment uphill. They couldn't do their job without being well-trained and fit.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:16 AM
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What is the avalanche rucksack?? It is a kind of equipment which might be carried by a "simple" skieur and not only by medical/rescue team??
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:17 AM
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I didn't want to imply that prince Friso is not an excellent skier. But it's a difference if you are trained to ski with a heavy rucksack like the mountain rescue team members are or if you are out to enjoy the perfect skiing day as a tourist. For untrained skiers carrying the avalanche rucksack takes a bit of the easy going fun out of the experience, that's all I wanted to say.

My son's a member of a medical rescue team and they train regularily to run longer distances carrying their heavy equipment uphill. They couldn't do their job without being well-trained and fit.
Don't worry Kataryn,I understood as much..

Yes Fandesacs,it's like a backpack which will work like an airbag if in a avalange and it has a transmitter in it so one is easyer found by emergency units.


This accident involving the Prince brought about a huge discussion in Austria and one of the plans now is to make these ABS rucksacks/backpacks mandatory.Maybe a bit uncomfortable in the beginning,but live-saving just in case.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:26 AM
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They group did not use the main entrance this time, as was to be expected.

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The Telegraaf reports that the Austrian Times claims that Mr. Moosbrugger was the one who saved the prince and dug him out of the snow with his bare hands. Mr. Moosbrugger is a member of the rescue team in Lech.
Skivriend redde Friso met blote handen - Binnenland | Het laatste nieuws uit Nederland leest u op Telegraaf.nl [binnenland]

They say that out of respect Mr. Moosbrugger doesn't talk to the press. He himself lost his father due to an accident in the Himalaya btw.

His mother Kristl Moosbrugger tells an Austrian newspaper that her family is deeply shocked by what happened & tht they can only pray and hope for the best.
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The volkskrant has an article about the media reaction: either go along with the hype or stay behind. Millions are watching, liveblogs have 100.000s clicks per hour BUT: there is no news. The former director of the NOS news calls it all 'disgusting' and gutter journalism. What is obvious is that the media is struggling in the amount of reporting of these kind of events.
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Florian Moosbrugger apparently did give an interview to the Austrian Times in which he tells he himself dug out Friso.So FM did talk to the press himself....hero for a day....for what it's worth......
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Yes Fandesacs,it's like a backpack which will work like an airbag if in a avalange and it has a transmitter in it so one is easyer found by emergency units.
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So, IF he worn this bag he would not be now in such critical condition!

This IF, in accidents is dramatical.
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I don't think I was criticising CNN, Lumutqueen. I first heard about the accident when I logged on to this forum Friday night. In the US, royalty is not such a big topic. Obama gets more coverage. Except for William and Catherine's wedding last April and when Grace Kelly got married, then died 26 years later, royalty has really not been in the news much across the pond. I did see an article in my newspaper about Emperor Akihito having a bypass operation and was surprised to see that. When Joachim and Mare had their second child, there was a picture from the NY Times in the celebrity news section that said: 'Princess Marie and Prince Joachim of Denmark leaving the hospital with their new baby boy'. I guess no one on the Times staff cared enough to change the error. I'm just stating a fact which I think is right as far as coverage of royal visits in my country go. I am aware that Queen Elizabeth has been here from time to time to see Presidents and an occasional horse race, but other royals are hardly metioned.
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Alexej we are aware of all that,don't bother,it's ok.You heard it after all.Good.

I wish they would call him Prince Friso,just Prince Friso.That is what the Princes name is and the only one he uses and how he wants it,without the Johan bit let alone Johan alone...
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Alexej we are aware of all that,don't bother,it's ok.You heard it after all.Good.

I wish they would call him Prince Friso,just Prince Friso.That is what the Princes name is and the only one he uses and how he wants it,without the Johan bit let alone Johan alone...
I just noticed what you said! Prince Friso (where this Johan comes??)

And I noticed into the official website, that he is not a member of the Royal Family. I knew that he lost his rights to the throne, but I thought he still was a member, but apparently not.
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Johan Friso sounds more "royal" than just Friso.
And Johan is a lovely, biblical name.
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I just noticed what you said! Prince Friso (where this Johan comes??)

And I noticed into the official website, that he is not a member of the Royal Family. I knew that he lost his rights to the throne, but I thought he still was a member, but apparently not.
Ofcourse he is still a member of the Royal Family,not of the Royal House thus not in line.The Johan bit I mention is because that was as he was called in that Hello link that was provided by Dazzling.
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I don't think I was criticising CNN, Lumutqueen. I first heard about the accident when I logged on to this forum Friday night. In the US, royalty is not such a big topic.
Indeed it isn't. But you first comment was about not hearing it on the news until that day, when someone mentioned CNN had covered the story previously, you said it just shows how news channels rehash old stories. I assumed you were referring to Prince Johan Friso's accident.

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I just noticed what you said! Prince Friso (where this Johan comes??)

And I noticed into the official website, that he is not a member of the Royal Family. I knew that he lost his rights to the throne, but I thought he still was a member, but apparently not.
His full name is Prince Johan Friso Bernhard Christiaan David. He's known as Prince Friso though. The same situation applies to his daughters who aren't known by their first names either.
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His full name is Prince Johan Friso Bernhard Christiaan David. He's known as Prince Friso though. The same situation applies to his daughters who aren't known by their first names either.
correct. From wikipedia:
Referred to from birth as Prince Johan-Friso, in 2004 the royal court announced that he requested his first name to be simply "Friso" without the prefix "Johan".
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