the royal forums

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Reigning Houses > Dutch Royals > Prince Friso and Princess Mabel and family
Portal Royal Articles Royal Calendar Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read




Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #101  
Old 12-07-2005, 07:51 AM
ysbel's Avatar
Heir Apparent
New York - United States
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,389
Default

I think some Americans exaggerate anti-Americanism. I lived abroad for a year and most people were very pleasant to this American regardless of their political leanings.

A lot of political leaders get heavily criticized by citizens of their own country. Its an occupational hazard. I'm not so naive to believe that someone critical of Bush is by default anti-American.

I never heard of an anti-Australian phenomenon except when asking a New Zealander. :)
Reply With Quote
  #102  
Old 12-07-2005, 09:04 AM
Warren's Avatar
Administrator
Sydney - Australia
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 6,636
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ysbel
I never heard of an anti-Australian phenomenon...
Ysbel, I think they are still getting us confused with those troublesome Austrians. :)
__________________
The Forum's Community rules and Member FAQs.
Seeking information? Have a look at the TRF's extensive Royal A-Z.
Reply With Quote
  #103  
Old 12-07-2005, 09:09 AM
Courtier
Vienna - Austria
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 628
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ysbel
I think some Americans exaggerate anti-Americanism.
I think it's something the American administration uses to get the people to side with them against all those evil foreigners who dare to criticize the American government.
Reply With Quote
  #104  
Old 12-07-2005, 09:22 AM
ysbel's Avatar
Heir Apparent
New York - United States
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,389
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smilla
I think it's something the American administration uses to get the people to side with them against all those evil foreigners who dare to criticize the American government.
Nah, I think its mostly because most Americans don't have a lot of contact with non-Americans. Its a pretty big country and unlike Europe, its unusual for Americans to speak a foreign language or travel abroad to the extent that Europeans do.

My European friends travel quite frequently to other European countries, sometimes for vacation, sometimes for business, and sometimes for family. Even the teenagers go on a lot of school field trips to other countries. That's just not practical in America.

An American isn't likely to hear a lot of anti-American sentiment in their daily life among other Americans so when any foreigner newscast is critical about something in the U.S., it takes them by surprise. Of course, we all know, that bad news sells newspapers so its no wonder that most Americans are not going to hear what foreigners like about the U.S.

Last edited by ysbel; 12-07-2005 at 09:25 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #105  
Old 12-07-2005, 09:33 AM
Heir Apparent
- Canada
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,364
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by susan alicia
Mabel only wants to score with herself, she is a career woman
At least Mabel is trying to further a career with a good cause behind it. Mabel didn't make a contentious speech that could've potentially damaged the Dutch royal family's reputation or Dutch/American relations to further a career that would say increase her personal wealth or for other much more selfish reasons.

I don't imagine that people working for such social organizations make a lot of money, not as much as say CEOs or multinationals. So if Mabel is trying to further her career, I hope that with it she brings great attention to the cause of AIDS and brings in greater funding for research or resources to help those living with AIDS.
Reply With Quote
  #106  
Old 12-07-2005, 09:44 AM
Maxie's Avatar
Serene Highness
The great city of N. - Netherlands
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,456
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ysbel
Nah, I think its mostly because most Americans don't have a lot of contact with non-Americans. Its a pretty big country and unlike Europe, its unusual for Americans to speak a foreign language or travel abroad to the extent that Europeans do.

My European friends travel quite frequently to other European countries, sometimes for vacation, sometimes for business, and sometimes for family. Even the teenagers go on a lot of school field trips to other countries. That's just not practical in America.

An American isn't likely to hear a lot of anti-American sentiment in their daily life among other Americans so when any foreigner newscast is critical about something in the U.S., it takes them by surprise. Of course, we all know, that bad news sells newspapers so its no wonder that most Americans are not going to hear what foreigners like about the U.S.
I was thinking exactly the same thing earlier when reading some of the messages in this thread. I was born just six miles from the belgian border and just one from the german. I always consider myself as being a real european girl and as a matter of fact i think i really grew up in three countries when it comes to that. From an early age in made various trips into the neighbourhood and very soon I learnt there were others out there who had different ways of life and different visions (and different languages, of course). You won't believe how different the same piece of earth can get within 45 miles. For me that's what Europe about, so many different countries and some many different visions to which you adopt at an very early age. You make jokes about the other countries and the other countries make the same jokes about you. And after some time (when you grow older) you come to realise that some of these jokes actually consist of some thruths, whether you like it or not. And that people who make those jokes or have something to say about your goverment and it's policies are not necessarily 'anti-yourcountry'. I think that's the main ground why I have been so supportive of Mabel's venturing her opinion (next to the fact that I feel everybody has a right to venturing his or her opinion): it's just another voice of an European crowd who is doing what we're doing over here for centuries: talk too much and meddling in eachother's business. By which I don't mean to offense anyone, btw. I just love the variaty of so many different people on one message board.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #107  
Old 12-15-2005, 02:31 PM
Courtier
- United States
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 840
Default

i have to say just one thing of the subject of americans traveling to europe. it is easier for an american to travel here in american because its much cheaper to drive to another state vs flying over the ocean to visit europe. im sure its just as cheap to drive to another country in europe than to travel to american, i think.
__________________
ain' no sunshine when i gone
Reply With Quote
  #108  
Old 12-15-2005, 02:38 PM
pollyemma's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
Washington,DC - United States
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,144
Send a message via AIM to pollyemma
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by semisquare
i have to say just one thing of the subject of americans traveling to europe. it is easier for an american to travel here in american because its much cheaper to drive to another state vs flying over the ocean to visit europe. im sure its just as cheap to drive to another country in europe than to travel to american, i think.
sad but true. only 5 percent of americans have passports.
Reply With Quote
  #109  
Old 12-15-2005, 03:35 PM
Courtier
Vienna - Austria
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 628
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warren
Ysbel, I think they are still getting us confused with those troublesome Austrians. :)
Yeah, genuinely a part of the axis of evil, those troublesome Austrians. Always trying for world domination... :)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Johan Friso and Mabel, News and Pictures Part 2 Anna_R Prince Friso and Princess Mabel and family 193 09-03-2006 12:10 AM
Danish Royal Family Current Events 1: May 2005 - April 2006 Mandy Current Events Archives 179 04-17-2006 02:32 AM
Royals Ballet Patron? or President? sara1981 Royal Life and Lifestyle 5 12-02-2005 11:28 AM
Royals Red Cross Patron or President? sara1981 Royal Life and Lifestyle 11 11-18-2005 12:18 PM
State Visits Torkel Imperial Family of Japan 4 01-07-2004 11:35 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:46 PM.



Other Social Knowledge forum communities:
Cooking Forum - Sailing Forum - Early Retirement
Airstream Trailer Forum - Aquarium & Reef Forum
Royal Forum - Book and Reader Forum - Yoga Forum
Volkswagen Touareg Forum - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Whitewater Kayaking & Rafting Forum - Yoga Forum
Interference - U2, Pop Culture & Social Responsibility - Fashion Industry Forum
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2008
Jelsoft Enterprises
eXTReMe Tracker

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0