Dutch royals edited Wikipedia entry on themselves

[Marengo]

According to the RVD prince Friso and Princess Mabel changed the wikipedia page of Princess Mabel. Apparently they made the changes from Palace Huis ten Bosch. They changed the sentense that Princess Mabel provided untruthfull information to the Prime Minister.

[Empress]

Hey! Where did you find that information?

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Empress

Hey! Where did you find that information?

Teletext and newsreels.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Marengo

According to the RVD prince Friso and Princess Mabel changed the wikipedia page of Princess Mabel. Apparently they made the changes from Palace Huis ten Bosch. They changed the sentense that Princess Mabel provided untruthfull information to the Prime Minister.

It is not like she committed a crime you know.What she did was to make a change in the "incomplete and false information" sentence,she deleted the "and false" in reference to the letter she and Friso had sent to the PM at the time before their marriage in which they stated they had provided him,the PM,with incomplete information,not incomplete AND FALSE.As we all know any kuckoo can add whatever to Wikipedia (reason I never refer to it,as it is often incorrect brabble).

Mabel must have been under the impression no-one would ever notice,if it wasn't for that new thing,the wikiscanner,that can trace any post back to the IP number/address of the PC used.That all and that's it.The original sentence has meanwhile been restored,with reference to the couples letter to the PM,for accuracy 's sake..

[Princess Maxima]

But how did you know that Mabel changed it? :)
(Maybe somebody else did it from Huis ten Bosch)

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Princess Maxima

But how did you know that Mabel changed it? :)
(Maybe somebody else did it from Huis ten Bosch)

The RVD issued a statement this evening in which it said Friso and Mabel changed it.That she changed it,I can understand,it wasn't quite accurate,but it wasn't exactly wise either to use a PC at the private residence of HM.

[Marengo]

I really dislike the way this couple keeps dealing with this matter like sulking teenagers who can not stand it that somebody corrected them. If they think they have been treated unjust and false alligations were made they should either open up about it or be silent. Not secretly changing sentences etc. It was the prime minister himself who said that the provided information was false btw, so this change is rather uncredible. But Mabel likes to 'windowdress' I suppose, I think that was the only reason why she took the surname of her stephfather too (Wisse Smit sounds more impressive than plain Los, though the Wisse was added later and the families surname was actuallty just plain Smit).

I hope in the future this couple will stay away even more from the public eye and live their life as discretely as possible in London, they only make themselves and the monarchy an object of ridicule and bring the Queen in an embarrasing position yet again.

[susan alicia]

I thought it rather undignified when Friso announced or the RVD did (before his marriage) that he was NOT a homosexuel. Really strange thing to publish, no matter how much people gossip about you.

Originally Posted by Marengo

I really dislike the way this couple keeps dealing with this matter like sulking teenagers who can not stand it that somebody corrected them. If they think they have been treated unjust and false alligations were made they should either open up about it or be silent. Not secretly changing sentences etc. It was the prime minister himself who said that the provided information was false btw, so this change is rather uncredible. But Mabel likes to 'windowdress' I suppose, I think that was the only reason why she took the surname of her stephfather too (Wisse Smit sounds more impressive than plain Los, though the Wisse was added later and the families surname was actuallty just plain Smit).

I hope in the future this couple will stay away even more from the public eye and live their life as discretely as possible in London, they only make themselves and the monarchy an object of ridicule and bring the Queen in an embarrasing position yet again.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Marengo

I really dislike the way this couple keeps dealing with this matter like sulking teenagers who can not stand it that somebody corrected them. If they think they have been treated unjust and false alligations were made they should either open up about it or be silent. Not secretly changing sentences etc. It was the prime minister himself who said that the provided information was false btw, so this change is rather uncredible. But Mabel likes to 'windowdress' I suppose, I think that was the only reason why she took the surname of her stephfather too (Wisse Smit sounds more impressive than plain Los, though the Wisse was added later and the families surname was actuallty just plain Smit).

I hope in the future this couple will stay away even more from the public eye and live their life as discretely as possible in London, they only make themselves and the monarchy an object of ridicule and bring the Queen in an embarrasing position yet again.

As to the PM,he added the "and false" himself thus giving his own twist to matters where he shouldn't have,He just messed that up,too.

[princess olga]

Originally Posted by Marengo

I really dislike the way this couple keeps dealing with this matter like sulking teenagers who can not stand it that somebody corrected them. If they think they have been treated unjust and false alligations were made they should either open up about it or be silent. Not secretly changing sentences etc. It was the prime minister himself who said that the provided information was false btw, so this change is rather uncredible. But Mabel likes to 'windowdress' I suppose, I think that was the only reason why she took the surname of her stephfather too (Wisse Smit sounds more impressive than plain Los, though the Wisse was added later and the families surname was actuallty just plain Smit).

I hope in the future this couple will stay away even more from the public eye and live their life as discretely as possible in London, they only make themselves and the monarchy an object of ridicule and bring the Queen in an embarrasing position yet again.

Hear, hear.

This new sorry episode just proves once again that Mabel just doesn't get it. And probably never will. Friso, ditto.

I'm sure the wikipedia pages of, say, Maxima contain factual errors as well, but does the princess go and muck around in what's now already considered the great internet encyclopedia? No of course she doesn't.

All I can say is, for all Mabel's and Friso's combined academic smarts and phd's and whatnot, they sure know how to put their foot in their mouths. Goes to show that university diplomas cannot buy anyone common sense.

I gave Mabel the benefit of the doubt for eons but am starting to fess up to what she really is: a manipulative person who had affairs with dubious men to end up in the family of, of all people, our great queen. I feel Friso made a big mistake.

[Marengo]

The wikipedia page of Princess Mabel now start with this remark:

Editing of this article by unregistered or newly registered users is currently disabled

I am envisioning Toos Balkenende (mother of the Prime Minister) tryng to correct the page

[Marengo]

From expatica:

Royals edited Wikipedia entry

30 August 2007
THE HAGUE (AFP) - Controversial Dutch Princess Mabel and her husband Prince Johan Friso edited a Wikipedia entry about her to take out a reference that she had given false information to the government, the royal information service RVD confirmed Wednesday.

Several media outlets here reported that a computer with an IP address registered to the palace of Queen Beatrix amended a sentence in the entry saying that Mabel had given "incomplete and false information" to the government over her relationship with drugs lord Klaas Bruinsma.

Read the entire article here.

[Mandrake]

It seems Friso and Mabel are the only ones who change Wikipedia lemmas about themselves!
In the past Bernhard and Beatrix called up reporters to state that a story was not true in 'their' perspective. Beatrix was once rumoured to say that they could make an entire page of a newspaper that contained 'rubbish' disappear in this way. Especially Bernhard befriended journalist and so had some power over them to correct their storys. When later this turned out to be impossible, after lockheed when reporters became more critical, Beatrix once remarked 'de reugen regeert' Lies Rule.
Now with the use of internet Lies Rule most certainly and the habit of the Oranges to change story's they find false hasn't changed. What has changed is that this happened anonymous at first, but almost two years after the famous editing it can be discovered.
Wiki is meant to be a forum of discussion ones you disagree about a certain matter. It is fine that they want to change things, they just have to explain why. Make up a profile so people can't trace your IP! Also I don't think that 'false' is the right translation of 'onjuist' False means foutief I would say.

It does become clear that there are a lot of people who still hold a grudge against friso and mabel, and that they are willing to make something horrible out any (very) innocent matter.

[Saphire]

Dutch royals caught revising Wikipedia - Online World - MSNBC.com

All they are doing is calling more attention to themselves...

[princess olga]

it's even reported here in the San Francisco Chronicle:

Dutch Royals Caught Revising Wikipedia

One Chronicle reader's comments is: "Cowardly and deceitful House of Orange....what else is new?"

Boy oh boy. Mabel sure knows how to get bad PR. And you know what: she deserves it. Big time. Mabel, you blew it, with your utter disdain for anyone but the criminal and powerful. Glad you're not in line for the throne.

[Marengo]

Well, the problem is they aren't setting the record straight. The official version of the Prime Minister is that the information they gave was false and incomplete. They removed the remark false. IMHO it would have been better to edit the sentense, saying that the PM called it false and incomplete while in their own version it was just incomplete (sigh). But better still would be if they just left it alone and moved on. Everybody else already had but now this entire issue is back in the press again.

They are really rediculed in the press for this action btw, for two people who are usually referred to as 'very intelligent' they keep making silly mistakes. I repeat that I sincerely hope that they stay out of the public eye as much as possible, which shouldn't be too difficult for Friso (he seems rather socially handicapped and usually looks grumpy), but Mabel might have problems with that.

[Mandrake]

The only reason why this gets so much attention is this: The Dutch Press dislike Mabel, a majority of the Dutch people dislike Mabel. And if nothing a good row unites the Dutch people. Especially a row about people we already dislike.
My god this editing was from januari 2006, and was removed after a few hours.

I'm fed up with this nonsense. They made some mistakes in the past, should have been more open about things. The former and Current PM are to blame as well. Get over it and give them a new chance.
Their both doing good work, they AREN'T retarded or anything, only career driven perhaps.

I feel many people still hold a grudge against the couple because they 'damaged' the reputation of the royal house and hurt Our Queen who we hold in such high esteem.
Forgive and forget shall we say?

[Marengo]

NRC Handelsblad had a rather balanced article today, quoting Peter Rehwinkel in praise of the RVD for their quick response. The quick response ensured that the Prime Minister didn´t have to get involved and HM stayed in the clear. The article ends with the remark that in english ´incorrect´ is a better translation of the PM´s ´onjuist´. ´False´ is too strong.

Read the entire article here (in Dutch only)

[Marengo]

In the mean time, two cartoons from Fokke en Sukke making, fun of the incident:

Cartoon 1

Cartoon 2

[Helena]

Youtube has the NOVA programme online, which deals with the wikipedia page issue of this charming couple.

Look here:

YouTube - Friso en Mabel wijzigden informatie op Wikipedia