A Girl for Johan Friso and Mabel: Emma Luana Ninette Sophie

[Alexandria]

This thread is reserved for the birth of Johan Friso and Mabel's first child.

[xxPatrickxx]

HRH Princess mabel have gave birth to a baby daughter. It is the first child for Friso and Mabel. She is born yesterday at 19.17 local time in London.

[xxPatrickxx]

Her name: Emma Luana Ninette Sophie....

They call here Luana...

[xxPatrickxx]

Friso let now that he is Very happy.. Mother and daughter are in great health.. They are very very happy. Luana is the 4th Grandchild from Queen beatrix. Here weight is 3085 gram.

[xxPatrickxx]

official name: Countess Luana

[Ennyllorac]

Congratulations to the happy family: I actually like the name Emma.

[Claire]

Congradulations! :) It's nice to see the universe balancing itself.


Why didn't the couple return to the Netherlands, for liittle Emma's birth?

[sara1981]

what weigh? and what time when Emma's born but im american i hard understand what you said about that Mabel had c-section? or natural birth?

I really like Emma and Sophie really nice!

Sara Boyce

[xxPatrickxx]

There isn't very much information... only the names... the time en the weight

[Genevieve]

Originally Posted by sara1981

what weigh? and what time when Emma's born but im american i hard understand what you said about that Mabel had c-section? or natural birth?

Sara Boyce

Why does it matter if Mabel delivered Luana by c-section or naturally? I think it matters most that the baby is healthy and that she and Mabel are doing fine.

[xxPatrickxx]

What A Nonsense about that everything is a joke for them!!

[GrandDuchess]

Congratulations to the little family! :)

I like all of the names except Luana... It sounds Hawaiian, or at least it makes me think Hawaii...

I would have prefered, when they would have named her Emma Juliana Ninette Sophie officially and would have called her Luana (e.g. as it is with prince Henry, who we all know as Harry)

I agree, if they picked Luana to honour the late Queen Juliana, then why not just make it Juliana! That would've made it clear (if it's their intention), and it's a "better/nicer" name in my personal taste too.

[xxPatrickxx]

I can't wait to see a picture of the Little Countess!!!

[Genevieve]

So why is it that she is a Countess just like her cousin Eloise when her parents did not ask for government permission to marry while Constantijn and Laurentien did?

How is the fact that Johan Friso, Mabel and their daughter are not part of the royal household distinguished now?

[xxPatrickxx]

Because her father.. Friso official is a Count.. So his child is also count/countess

[kwanfan]

Congrats to the new family! I like the name Luana!

[Genevieve]

Originally Posted by xxPatrickxx

Because her father.. Friso official is a Count.. So his child is also count/countess

What is he a Count of?

[Ennyllorac]

Originally Posted by Genevieve

What is he a Count of?

This is from the Dutch Royal Family Official Web Page



On 20 June 2003, the Prince became engaged to Mabel Wisse Smit. The wedding took place in Delft on 24 April 2004.

Through his marriage he is no longer a member of the Royal House. Under the Membership of the Royal House Act (2002), he no longer bears the title Prince of the Netherlands. He still bears the personal title of Prince of Orange-Nassau, and will continue to be addressed as “Your Royal Highness”. The hereditary title Count of Orange-Nassau has also been bestowed on him.

Any children born to Prince Friso and Princess Mabel may use the title of Count or Countess of Orange-Nassau, Jonkheer or Jonkvrouw van Amsberg, and the surname Van Oranje-Nassau van Amsberg. Should they do so, they will be referred to as Count or Countess. Prince Friso’s wife will not become a princess in her own right through her marriage. However, custom allows a wife to use her husband’s titles.

[Genevieve]

Originally Posted by Ennyllorac

This is from the Dutch Royal Family Official Web Page

On 20 June 2003, the Prince became engaged to Mabel Wisse Smit. The wedding took place in Delft on 24 April 2004.

Through his marriage he is no longer a member of the Royal House. Under the Membership of the Royal House Act (2002), he no longer bears the title Prince of the Netherlands. He still bears the personal title of Prince of Orange-Nassau, and will continue to be addressed as “Your Royal Highness”. The hereditary title Count of Orange-Nassau has also been bestowed on him.

Any children born to Prince Friso and Princess Mabel may use the title of Count or Countess of Orange-Nassau, Jonkheer or Jonkvrouw van Amsberg, and the surname Van Oranje-Nassau van Amsberg. Should they do so, they will be referred to as Count or Countess. Prince Friso’s wife will not become a princess in her own right through her marriage. However, custom allows a wife to use her husband’s titles.

Thank you Ennyllorac.

I am still confused about how it is that Johan Friso and Laurentien didn't ask for permission to marry yet still seem to have most of the same priviliges and rights that Constantijn and Laurent who did ask permission to marry do. But that is for another thread I guess.

I guess with the couple being in London we can't expect too many royal visits to see Mabel and Luana at the hospital. But I hope we'll see Uncle Constantijn and Aunt Laurentien visiting their new niece when they are in London for Charles and Camilla's wedding.

[juliamontague]

I like the name.
It sounds a bit exotic, but why not.
I think it's better than a name, which everyone has.

Luana means content and happy.

Julia