A Girl for Johan Friso and Mabel: Emma Luana Ninette Sophie

[Danielle]

Congratulations to Johan and Mabel! :) While I don't necessarily love the name Luana, I think it's the parent’s choice to name their child whatever they like (within reason). All that really matters is that their daughter is healthy and happy. I am a little confused; if her name is Emma Luana .... why is she going to be called Luana when her first name is Emma?

[kil]

Congrats to Friso and Mabel ! what a great news !! :)

[xxPatrickxx]

Left Mabel Now and mabel as baby... Right Friso now and as baby

[MoonlightRhapsody]

This is turning out to be a big baby year for the Netherlands, not to mention two weddings also...Congratulations to the country!

[samitude]

Well, Luana's dad's name is like that. His name is Johan Friso and he goes by Friso.

[xxLindaxx]

from BRMB:

Friso will wait with releasing a picture till his mother has had a chance to visit. That is expected to happen today or tomorrow.

DOCHTER VERRAST MABEL EN FRISO MET VROEGE KOMST
LONDEN (GPD) - Prins Friso heeft het voorbeeld van zijn oudste broer, vader en
opa niet gevolgd en nog geen foto vrijgegeven van zijn zaterdag geboren dochter
Luana. Hij breekt daarmee met een koninklijke traditie die wil dat de vader van
een nieuwgeborene meteen de camera ter hand neemt. De prins zal willen wachten
totdat zijn moeder koningin Beatrix in Londen langs is geweest alvorens hij
foto's van de baby vrijgeeft.
Emma Luana Ninette Sophie, gravin van Oranje-Nassau en jonkvrouwe van Amsberg,
is drie weken te vroeg geboren. Het dochtertje van prinses Mabel en Friso woog
bij de geboorte zaterdagavond om 19.17 uur precies 3085 gram. Moeder en kind
maken het uitstekend, zo liet de gelukkige vader via de Rijksvoorlichtingsdienst
weten. Het is niet bekend wanneer en waar de prins aangifte doet van de
geboorte.
De ouders werden door de vroege komst van Luana verrast. Ze hadden voor de
komende dagen nog afspraken staan. Mabel werkte de laatste tijd vanuit huis,
omdat ze vanwege de zwangerschap niet meer mocht vliegen. Drie weken geleden
waren Mabel en Friso nog in Amsterdam voor de galavoorstelling van de film Hotel
Rwanda. In februari had de prinses nog de halve wereld rondgereisd om projecten
van haar werkgever Open Society Institute te bezoeken en vergaderingen bij te
wonen.
Mabel was van plan de laatste weken voor de geboorte thuis in Londen met hulp
van e-mail en telefon door te werken. Maar dat niet alleen. ,,Er komt heel wat
kijken bij de voorbereiding voor de komst van een baby", constateerde ze. De
komende maanden zijn dan ook voor Luana, zo liet de prinses toen al weten.
Wanneer de niet als stilzitter bekend staande Mabel weer aan slag gaat, is
ongewis. ,,Ik zie wel hoe het loopt. Een baby verandert je leven enorm."
De naam Luana betekent "gelukkig en tevreden" in het Hawaiiaans, maar niet
bekend is of haar ouders dat ook in gedachten hadden bij hun keuze. De namen
Emma - de naam van de betovergrootmoeder van Friso - en Sophie hebben
waarschijnlijk een koninklijke achtergrond, Ninette duidt op een link met Mabels
familie.
Het meisje is het eerste lid van de koninklijke familie die sinds 1943 in het
buitenland wordt geboren. De laatste was prinses Margriet, die tijdens de
ballingschap van de koninklijke familie in de Tweede Wereldoorlog in de Canadese
hoofdstad Ottawa het levenslicht zag.
Omdat Groot-Brittannië automatisch het staatsburgerschap geeft aan baby's die op
Brits grondgebied worden geboren, kan Luana behalve op de Nederlandse
nationaliteit ook aanspraak maken op de Britse. Ze is overigens geen lid van het
koninklijk huis en komt niet in aanmerking voor de troonopvolging. Dit omdat
haar vader zijn rechten verloor toen hij vorig jaar april zonder parlementaire
toestemming huwde.
Koningin Beatrix, die op 29 oktober de zwangerschap van Mabel wereldkundig
maakte, wordt vandaag of morgen in Londen verwacht voor een bezoek aan haar
jongste en vierde kleinkind. Later dit jaar hoopt ze op verdere
familie-uitbreiding, wanneer prinses M xima haar tweede kind krijgt.

[didem]

Congratulations Prince Johan Friso and Princess Mabel

wellcome to baby Luana

[Lena]

Originally Posted by Danielle

if her name is Emma Luana .... why is she going to be called Luana when her first name is Emma?

I´ve asked myself this already in connection with Catharina Amalia. Why is she called Amalia and not Catharina? Maybe the young generation of dutch Royals wants to establish a new tradition.
I can only say, that I´m glad, that Luana can always choose "Emma" as older girl, when she isn´t happy with her fancy name.

[Danielle]

Originally Posted by Lena

I´ve asked myself this already in connection with Catharina Amalia. Why is she called Amalia and not Catharina? Maybe the young generation of dutch Royals wants to establish a new tradition.
I can only say, that I´m glad, that Luana can always choose "Emma" as older girl, when she isn´t happy with her fancy name.

Oh good. I am not the only one wondering. :)

[Alisa]

Originally Posted by Lena

I´ve asked myself this already in connection with Catharina Amalia. Why is she called Amalia and not Catharina? Maybe the young generation of dutch Royals wants to establish a new tradition.
I can only say, that I´m glad, that Luana can always choose "Emma" as older girl, when she isn´t happy with her fancy name.

I've been wondering about the scenario as well. However the analogy with Catharina-Amalia is completely different.

In the Amalia's case Catharina-Amalia is one name connected with a hyphen, and while she is often called Amalia her official name is Princess Catharina-Amalia.

Mabel and Friso's name choices don't make much sense to me as the names are different names Emma Luana Ninette Sophie.

Her first name is Emma, but her official name is Countess Luana van Oranje-Nassau.

[Alexandria]

Originally Posted by Alisa

Mabel and Friso's name choices don't make much sense to me as the names are different names Emma Luana Ninette Sophie.

Her first name is Emma, but her official name is Countess Luana van Oranje-Nassau.

You're right -- it doesn't make sense that that her official name is Countess Luana van Oranje-Nassau rather than Countess Emma van Oranje-Nassau. It would be one thing if her official name were Countess Emma but her parents and family referred to her as Luana but to make her official name Luana, too -- wouldn't it just make more sense to make her name Luana Emma Ninette Sophie van Oranje-Nassau?

One can't even say that Luana is a "nickname" or a variation of the baby's first name is in Prince Maurits and Princess Marilene's daughter whose full name is Anastasia but is referred to as Anna. Or as the example was given of Catharina-Amalia or Henry/Harry.

Very confusing the entire issue of Johan Friso and Mabel's daughter's name!

But very happy news for the couple and for Beatrix!

[Victoria1999]

Congratulations:)

I think the names are beautiful. I really like Emma.

[liv]

It´s not new in the younger generation to use the second name.

Willem-Alexander - called Alexander
Johan-Friso- called Friso

I think every parents have the right to choose the name for their babies themselves.Okay,as the future Queen Catharina-Amalia needed a more traditional and elegant name,but in fact Luana is the decision of Mabel and Friso and obviously they liked these names and should accept....

[xxLindaxx]

Why isn't there any news on the website of the Dutch royal house??? I think it's strange...and i hope there wil be a picture of the little countess soon :(

[Danielle]

Here is an article. I find it strange that the only the Australian media has said anything about the birth of Luana. They couldn't even spell Johan's name correctly.

Princess has baby girl
From correspondents in The Hague
28mar05

PRINCESS Mabel, the wife of Dutch Prince Johan Frisco, has given birth to a baby girl.

The child, named Luana, is the fourth granddaughter of Queen Beatrix.

Prince Johan Frisco, Beatrix's second son, married Mabel Wisse Smit on April 24 last year, a union that caused him to renounce his right to the Dutch throne.

The wedding was embroiled in controversy with revelations that the prince's fiancee had a past relationship with a major drug trafficker, Klaas Bruinsma.

Finding that the couple provided "incomplete and erroneous" information about the bride-to-be's past, Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende refused to ask parliament to sanction the marriage.

Johan Frisco was third in line for the Dutch throne after his brother Willem Alexander and Willem's daughter Amalia.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...5E1702,00.html

[Alexandria]

Originally Posted by xxLindaxx

Why isn't there any news on the website of the Dutch royal house??? I think it's strange...and i hope there wil be a picture of the little countess soon :(

I think it was discussed at the time of the wedding that without having asked for permission, Johan Friso and Mabel are no longer part of the Dutch royal house even though they are part of the Queen's family. And as I understand it, the website of the Dutch royal house is only for members of the royal house, which would exclude Johan Friso and Mabel and the birth of Luana.

[HMQueenElizabethII]

This's really great news.Congrats the parents,Queen Beatrix,the Royal Family and the Dutch.A great year for them.

[moosey60]

Luana sounds lovely...however I picture a typical southern hillbilly (forgive me), reminds me of a Mary-Lou-type girl. Would've preferred Emma.

[KatieLouise]

Many Congratulations to Friso and Mabel and welcome young Luana!

[nina86lila]

Congratulation to the new parents !:p
.........and log life for the new little princess !