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Old 08-02-2006, 07:50 AM
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I hope she has a safe delivery and the child is well.
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:38 PM
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I hope Naruhito doesnt abdicate and that during his reign policy will change. What would happen then? - if Kiko has a son and its named the heir can it be reversed at a later stage if the IHA decided females could also ascend?
Nonetheless, I hope everything goes well for Kiko - both for the birth and the future.
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Old 08-02-2006, 08:10 PM
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I think if Kiko has a boy - the IHA as well as the govt will never change the ruling to allow a female to ascend the throne.

For a country that is so modern, i'm very disappointed that they still regard women as second class.
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:01 PM
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My only concern , at least by now, is about Princess Kiko's health. Hope she will no pass through medical treatments that could be dangerous for her or/and the baby (whatever her/his sex will be). If the IHA pushed her to get pregnant with the only design of having a baby boy, shame on them: they could kill the Princess and the little new life she has inside. If not, I don't think we must blame her. My great-great grandma wanted to be pregnant when she was 50 (she could be a mother) and, in despite her other children complaints (she had already nine), she wanted to have one more son or daughter, for she loved little babies. And she gave birth without any problem to a healthy little girl named Helena. If Princess Kiko is experiencing problems with her pregnancy, its not her fault.

All this depends (of course), if she wanted to have this baby, or the IHA obliged her to get pregnant. This last possibility would be highly blamable.

I also hope that the Crown Prince would not abdicate to his dignity, just to pass it to his brother. It's ridicoulous.

However, I'm a little amazed of the feminist fundamentalism I see everywhere (and I'm a woman, adding to this fact that I am with woman rights). People is praying about the baby being a girl, just for Japan would change its laws and become a "modern nation". And the IHA is wanting that the baby would be a boy just to not change the succesion laws. ...Please, people! We are speaking about a woman, whose life could be in danger, a baby whose life could be in danger too. Let Princess Kiko having her baby in peace and we'll discuss the succesion laws later, when the baby and she will be out of danger and all right.

These world is made by men and women. No sex is better than the other. Collaboration, love and friendship between them must be our politic.

So: hope Princess Kiko and her newborn would be O.K. After this, JAPANESE PEOPLE, not us, must decide what to do with succesory laws.

Vanesa.
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:55 AM
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After reading this thread for updates for so long, I have finally joined to post.

I can honestly see a huge list of pros and cons for the baby turning out to a girl as well as a boy. I just hope that both the baby and Princess Kiko stay healthy and safe.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:45 AM
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I think the only thing that matters is that the baby comes in to the world healthy and loved by everyone in his or her family!!
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:01 PM
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I'm sure the baby will be loved no matter the gender but I can already see the grief this baby is going to go through by being born Prince/Princess of this Imperial family. If the baby is a girl then it's going to get some major resentment from the IHA and Kiko most likely will be looked upon unfavorably. If the baby is a boy then his life will be under IHA control guaranteed.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:24 PM
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I agree with SiberiaWinxs, Dutch Royal and SoCal Girl...And I hope the baby (and also Princess Aiko, Kako and Mako) could live their childhood in peace, without any external control , other than their family one.

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Old 08-04-2006, 08:19 AM
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I pray the baby is safe. I also hope that even if it is a boy that the law will be changed for equal succession rights. Not to make japan a modern monarchy but to show respect and equality to masako, aiko and all other women who are judged as of less importance than their male peers.

Will we be alerted to when the birth is taking place? Will there be a thread as we wait for news in a similar way there was a thread while awaiting the births of Ingrid Alexandra and Amalia? Im going on holiday and im afraid it will all occur while im away
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Old 08-04-2006, 12:15 PM
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If the baby is a boy:

Cons:
-CP Masako might be treated even worse.
-The law might never be changed to allow females a chance to succeed.
-The daughters of the family might feel like they were not good enough.
-The pressure on the newborn will be enourmous, plus he would be under constant watch to assure his safety.

Pros:
-Pressure might be lifted off CP Masako now that an heir has been born.
-The family daughters will be spared the structured life of an emporer, but will be forced to give up their home/titles if they marry out of royalty.
-The IHA might finally leave everyone alone.


If the baby is a girl:

Cons:
-The IHA might go to extreme messures to get a male heir
-The pressure/treatment on CP Masako, and now Princess Kiko as well, will get even worse.
-The baby might be looked down upon by the folks hoping for a boy.

Pros:
-The law might get changed, allowing females to succeed.
-Women might finally start being treated as equals.
-Princesses might gain the right to marry commoners without having to give up their title.
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:19 PM
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i agree with the pros and cons. what the IHA doesn't realise is that these are human lives they are messing with. anyway at this rate if the laws dont change, the imperial family might be wiped out altogether in the near future.
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Old 08-05-2006, 12:10 AM
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Well both Kiko and her Husband are pretty high up there age wise and the older you are the better chances that they will have a girl. The IHA freaks me out and I dont know what lenghts they will go to which scares me.
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:36 AM
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Princess Kiko will give birth (by Caesarian section) at or round September 6th.

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Source: http://www.nu.nl/news/797747/62/Japa...mber_baby.html (in Dutch)

Japanese princess wil give birth early September

TOKIO - Japanese princess Kiko will have a baby at or round September 6th by Caesarian section. The medical insure is necessary, because she had complications during the pregnancy said the Japanese television NHK.

etc.
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:00 AM
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From Mainichi Daily News,

Princess Kiko to give birth early next month

Princess Kiko is expected to give birth around Sept. 6, a news report said Tuesday, amid expectations that she will produce a male heir to the imperial throne.

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/nation...na011000c.html
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanesa
My only concern , at least by now, is about Princess Kiko's health. Hope she will no pass through medical treatments that could be dangerous for her or/and the baby (whatever her/his sex will be). If the IHA pushed her to get pregnant with the only design of having a baby boy, shame on them: they could kill the Princess and the little new life she has inside. ...
Surely there is no kind of obstetrical medical treatment that is can be somehow necessitated by any of the IHA's concerns and inherently dangerous to the Princess, and I am sure that she has access to the best that the Japanese obstetrics and gynaecology can offer.
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wlee
From Mainichi Daily News,

Princess Kiko to give birth early next month

Princess Kiko is expected to give birth around Sept. 6, a news report said Tuesday, amid expectations that she will produce a male heir to the imperial throne.

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/nation...na011000c.html
I am not surprised. I am not sure that anyone is surprised.
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Old 08-08-2006, 05:21 PM
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Yes Lillia, we shouldn't be after all these months...
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:08 AM
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I'm happy Princess Kiko will be sourrounded of good medical cares.

But if the baby is a male...Why they doesn't announce it?

Vanesa.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:15 AM
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I'm happy Princess Kiko will be sourrounded of good medical cares.

But if the baby is a male...Why they doesn't announce it?

Vanesa.
In my opinion announcing a child's gender before birth is a bit premature, even if one is not a scion of the Imperial family. Ultrasound is not 100% error-free in determining it. Even if, for medical reasons, invasive methods which reveal fetus's chromosomal set were used earlier in the course of the Princess's pregnancy, it can be deemed inadvisable to announce the news before the birth of Kiko's child.
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Old 08-09-2006, 10:05 AM
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Any knews on the State of the princess' pregnancy. Hope it is going well, considering she recently had a scare.
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