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Old 05-08-2006, 01:16 PM
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What is it about Masako that makes the Japanese attack her? Is it that physically she doesn't look like a meek little princess? She is tall and not small boned. Is it that she is so smart the IHA personnel are threatened themselves? Is Japan still that patriarchal that men have a hard time with her? IMO she would fit in beautifully with many of the European Crown Princesses that think for themselves, have their own working agendas, are happily married, etc. In my mind, Kiko probably fits the stereotype of what the IHA wants in a princess: petite, feminine, pretty, does what she is 'supposed' to do and now with the pregnancy -- well, perhaps she is just their idea of an Empress. It seems the IHA may have their woman - now they just need to sideline Masako.
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Old 05-08-2006, 01:41 PM
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I'm not sure what's been going on; Masako was very popular for a while, but now all of a sudden there's this campaign of venom against the Crown Prince's family in general and Masako in particular.
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Old 05-08-2006, 08:36 PM
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Well, I read that the IHA dislikes Masako for a lot of reasons and not just because she hasn't given birth to a boy.

I also wonder why she is having such a hard time compared to the others. Kiko and Hisako seem to have no problems and they don't have sons, either. I guess the difference is that Masako is the CP, has a different background, and has to produce that heir at whatever cost and terms.

If you ask me, it should be the Imperial princes - and not their wives - who should be "berated" for not producing sons or no children at all. Or Prince Katsura can get married and produce an heir.

BTW, thanks, Charlotte, for the info on the Imperial Princesses' lives. I wish we could see more of the younger princesses.
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Old 05-08-2006, 08:55 PM
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The major reason why Kiko has less pressure of being in Imperial family is because she was educated through Gakushuin which was previously strictly made for Imperial family and exteneded royals. School was made to bring up prince and princess through education. Princess. When Empress Michiko was still in process of engagement to Emperor Akihito, the IHA's one of the biggest argument was "she is not Gakushuin educated and brought up in Catholic school". Even after their marriege, the idea of Gakushuin graduated formar-royals has dominated the royal family and dicided to attack her throughout the years. The only major difference between Empress Michiko and CP Masako is Michiko has given birth to a boy the first year of marriege. Her former school University of Secred Heart Principal Mother Brit has believed her prayer has been answered at that time of birth of Naruhito( And IHA had problem with that, too)

Hope Masako feels better...:(
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Old 05-15-2006, 04:28 AM
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I read in a German magazine: it has been confirmed that Princess Kiko is expecting a boy.
Is this true or just one of the usual German magazines' made-up-stories.
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Old 05-15-2006, 07:45 PM
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You might find the Pandora's box articles on this page interesting; I think they've been quite well researched:

http://www.etoile.co.uk/Japan/History.html

I might have linked to them before, but they're worth a read.
These articles were very interesting. In the last one, I believe, it said that in 2003 the IHA "suggested" that Prince Akishino and Kiko should try to have a baby, but they wouldn't. What happened between now and then to change their minds? Were they pressured?
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Old 05-15-2006, 08:19 PM
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These articles were very interesting. In the last one, I believe, it said that in 2003 the IHA "suggested" that Prince Akishino and Kiko should try to have a baby, but they wouldn't. What happened between now and then to change their minds? Were they pressured?
Yes, the head the IHA publicly called for Naruhito and Masako to try for a 2nd child and then for Akishino and Kiko for a 3rd.

I'm not sure how this pregnancy was "arranged" but it was said that they have asked "permission" from the Akihito -said to be fretting about the succession crisis for the past 10 years - to have a third child. They didn't want to before, in deference to the Crown Prince couple. Again, all this may or may not be true. But one thing is certain, it is the triumph of the IHA.
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Old 05-15-2006, 08:24 PM
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The major reason why Kiko has less pressure of being in Imperial family is because she was educated through Gakushuin which was previously strictly made for Imperial family and extended royals. School was made to bring up prince and princess through education. Princess. When Empress Michiko was still in process of engagement to Emperor Akihito, the IHA's one of the biggest argument was "she is not Gakushuin educated and brought up in Catholic school". Even after their marriege, the idea of Gakushuin graduated former-royals has dominated the royal family and decided to attack her throughout the years. The only major difference between Empress Michiko and CP Masako is Michiko has given birth to a boy the first year of marriege. Her former school University of Secred Heart Principal Mother Brit has believed her prayer has been answered at that time of birth of Naruhito( And IHA had problem with that, too)

Hope Masako feels better...:(
Thanks, Kawaiian, for the info/explanation.:)
Oh, but it's not Masako's fault that she didn't attend Gakushuin School . I mean, her dad was a top diplomat assigned elsewhere, working for the nation's best interests, and so she was educated in other schools. How horrible to be "looked down" and attacked just because she didn't go to that elite school.
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If you ask me, it should be the Imperial princes - and not their wives - who should be "berated" for not producing sons or no children at all. Or Prince Katsura can get married and produce an heir.
Prince Katsura had an an accident in 1988 and now moves on a wheelchair. I think he is paralysed from waist down, and for that reason can't have children. Perhaps that's why he didn't marry as this accident has taken place only months after he received a permission to start a new branch of a royal family.
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I hate to say this but here goes. Do you think that they have planned all of this and have some other baby. They could do a switch and just say that this is the baby boy they have be praying for. I really do not put anything pass them. This whole thing is just crazy. Women should be able to take the throne.
That has crossed my mind too. It's like they are so desperate to prevent the little Princess to ever become Empress that I won't doubt the Imperial Household will resort to any trick they can pull to get their way.
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Prince Katsura had an an accident in 1988 and now moves on a wheelchair. I think he is paralysed from waist down, and for that reason can't have children. Perhaps that's why he didn't marry as this accident has taken place only months after he received a permission to start a new branch of a royal family.
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Old 06-04-2006, 10:14 PM
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If the Imperial Y chromosome means as much to them as they say it does, they're not going to be able to do that (unless there happens to be a baby born in the male line of one of the collateral branches of the imperial family). In this day and age of gender selection, there's no need for the elaborate ruse of a baby switch.
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Old 06-04-2006, 10:23 PM
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How about this theory? The Imperial Household has used Princess Kiko's husband to artificially inseminate several secret candidates until at least one of them confirmed she will have a boy. Princess Kiko could be pregnant but, as a safety measure, the back up fallopian tubes are already in the works to to do a switch over. The prize: Kiko and her spouse become emperors and his older brother is forced to abdicate under the excuse he is doing it for the peace of mind of his wife and daugther.

Far fetched? Let's see what happens in a few months if the baby is a boy.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:23 PM
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Yes, I'd say that was very far fetched considering there are easier ways to produce boys. You could probably get into the guild of conspiracy theorists with that one!
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Old 06-05-2006, 12:34 AM
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Prince Katsura had an an accident in 1988 and now moves on a wheelchair. I think he is paralysed from waist down, and for that reason can't have children. Perhaps that's why he didn't marry as this accident has taken place only months after he received a permission to start a new branch of a royal family.
Oh, yes, I read about it after I posted - very sad. Thanks, Jacek-t (and welcome!). It is most unfortunate.

Honestly, though, let's just hope that the new baby will bring peace to the family - and to the nation, as well. Just a few more months.....

I haven't lost hope that the Imperial Succession Law will still be changed. I think this all-girls offspring scenario in the last 40 years is telling the IHA, the Imperial Family, and the conservatives something.
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:34 PM
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Scroll down on Imperial Household of Japan to see the current line of Succesion. Until the rules change there is no mention of any women until the law is amended.
The site also has some interesting information on the Japanese monarchy that is worth reading.
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I hope that the pregnancy goes verry well!!


I just hope that it is a girl and that they have to change the law.

maybe the cp get a boy after they have changed the law??
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i think if it is not a boy she will have another baby in a couple of years..but i just hope that she is not under to much stress and delivers early
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Old 07-11-2006, 10:43 AM
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hopefully, it might be a boy & it might take off pressure from masako... and HOPEFULLY inspire her to have more children! Aiko needs siblings, it doesn't matter if its girls or boys.
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I donīt think Masako is able to have another baby. If so she wouldīve had more children long ago. This might be the reason why her sister-in-law now "helps out" because Kiko can have children without medical problems. And as she turns only 40 in September she can easily have a fourth one if this one isnīt a boy.
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