Prince and Princess Akishino have a son: Prince Hisahito

[Laviollette]

It's a boy!
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/05092006/32...birth-boy.html

[Zonk]

Wow..they did it! Got to hand it to the IHA. Well.....I hope he has a healthy and blessed life.

[Laviollette]

Originally Posted by Zonk1189

Wow..they did it! Got to hand it to the IHA...

This comment, two whole minutes after learning the new born child was a boy, seems very negative to me. But that's just me. Furthermore, while you claim that you are only bashing the IHA, my impression is that there is an implication that the Prince and Princess are part of this conspiracy by the IHA to provide a male heir. jmo.

[Zonk]

Originally Posted by Laviollette

This comment, two whole minutes after learning the new born child was a boy, seems very negative to me. But that's just me. Furthermore, while you claim that you are only bashing the IHA, my impression is that there is an implication that the Prince and Princess are part of this conspiracy by the IHA to provide a male heir. jmo.

Its funny how many people had negative comments about the role of the IHA during this pregnancy....yet you keyed in on mine. Regardless.....you are certainly entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. And while I am sure both parents wanted an additional child and are happy regarding his birth...based upon some of the actions of Prince Akishino and his loyalty to the IHA rather his brother...I would say that both the Prince and Princess Akishino played a small part in this "conspiracy."

[Laviollette]

Originally Posted by Zonk1189

Its funny how many people had negative comments about the role of the IHA during this pregnancy....yet you keyed in on mine. Regardless.....you are certainly entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. And while I am sure both parents wanted an additional child and are happy regarding his birth...based upon some of the actions of Prince Akishino and his loyalty to the IHA rather his brother...I would say that both the Prince and Princess Akishino played a small part in this "conspiracy."

I haven't singled you out. Yours are some of many that I've read since the announcement of the pregnancy last February. Months and months of negative speculation about this unborn child and how it was concocted by the evil IHA. Then the birth finally comes and now pages and pages of negative comments about what a disappointment the birth of a little boy is. I'm expressing my strong opinion just like many have been doing for months.

So what if Akishino is loyal to the IHA? He is also loyal to the reigning Emperor and Empress, his parents who seem supportive of him and his wife. The entire Imperial Family does not rest on one person. It's about the institution. His brother is one person with an admittedly ill wife. Why should the future of the family revolve around them and only them? The Imperial Family will survive without them and go on just like any other royal family should survive after its monarch before moving on to the next monarch.

[kimebear]

Originally Posted by Laviollette

I haven't singled you out. Yours are some of many that I've read since the announcement of the pregnancy last February. Months and months of negative speculation about this unborn child and how it was concocted by the evil IHA. Then the birth finally comes and now pages and pages of negative comments about what a disappointment the birth of a little boy is. I'm expressing my strong opinion just like many have been doing for months.

I find it ironic that someone who can throw around phrases like "barin (sic) Crown Princess", "get out of the way", "poor poor Crown Couple", and, of course, "stop whining" actually has the tenacity to whine about the negative comments regarding the birth of a boy. Are you suggesting by the "get out of the way" comment that Naruhito should give up his birthright and step aside as future emperor just because his sister in law had a son? Nobody has suggested that you should not show happiness for Kiko on the birth of a healthy baby, everyone is happy about the safe delivery. But are you really so void of any compassion for a sick woman that you would take this opportunity to kick her when she is down? Shame!

[foiegrass]

Originally Posted by Laviollette

So what if Akishino is loyal to the IHA? He is also loyal to the reigning Emperor and Empress, his parents who seem supportive of him and his wife. The entire Imperial Family does not rest on one person. It's about the institution. His brother is one person with an admittedly ill wife. Why should the future of the family revolve around them and only them? The Imperial Family will survive without them and go on just like any other royal family should survive after its monarch before moving on to the next monarch.

Well said. Look, it is possible that the imperial family can move on without the CP couple. There's always Prince and Princess Akishino to take over. They are loyal to the Emperor, loyal to Japan and they know where their duties lie. the I am not saying that the CP couple can't do that, but then again, with Masako's illness, the show still has to go on. I do not think that they were forced into having this child as they already wanted to have a child earlier but the Emperor dissauded them from trying for another one out of courtesy for the CP couple.

In Asian societies, you just can't help it if males have more precedence over females. My mom told me how disappointed my paternal grandparents were when I turned out to be female. When females marry, they have to take the surnames of the male. Look at the salaries, generally, males get more than females. Look at Asian militaries, males get drafted, not females. I know everyone's talking about sex equality but admit it, there are things that males can do and females can't. Even Queen Silva said so, in an interview that she admitted that she and the King would rather Prince Carl Phillip acede to the Swedish throne rather than Victoria. In Britain, the Princess Royal was second in line, but was pushed back to fourth when her brothers were born. Look at Luxembourg, Liechtenstein & Thailand (to name afew), females are not even included in succession.

[Sister Morphine]

I'm a little upset that it's a boy. I wanted them to finally change the laws of succession to allow females to inherit.

Also, didn't she have IVF to get pregant this time? They could have manipulated it to insure she gave birth to a boy.....that's wrong, IMO. They should have let nature take its course.

[Shadiyah2086]

Originally Posted by Sister Morphine

I'm a little upset that it's a boy. I wanted them to finally change the laws of succession to allow females to inherit.

Also, didn't she have IVF to get pregant this time? They could have manipulated it to insure she gave birth to a boy.....that's wrong, IMO. They should have let nature take its course.

I totally agree with you that nature should have taken its course. Besides you'd think they know by now that it's the male determines the sex of the child and quit blaming it on the poor women that carry the baby. I too was hoping for a girl so they would change the succession laws, but somthing told me she was going to have a boy. I'm glad things went smoothly and that Princess Kiko and the baby are ok (don't get me wrong) I just think they throne should be inherited by Princess Aiko.

[Nadiah_girl]

First of all, congratulations to Akishino and Kiko, their daughters, the imperial family, IHA and the people of Japan on the birth of the newborn.
It's a little odd when the birth of the boy is not greeted the same way as other royal births in recent years in this forum when forumers would be overjoyed regardless of the sex of the baby.
Well, I share the same sentiments as other forumers who express their dissapointment and the feeling of sorry towards how Naruhito and his family are treated.
It does not matter if the boy will be next in line to the throne after his uncle, the baby and his mother, Kiko, will highly regarded as he is the first male heir born to the Chrysanthemum Throne in 41 years.
Best of luck to the baby boy and again, congratulations!

[Laviollette]

Princess Kiko to donate umbilical cord blood for transplant use

Mainichi Daily News

Princess Kiko has offered to donate the umbilical cord blood from her pregnancy for transplantation to leukemia patients, officials from the Tokyo hospital where she gave birth to a new Prince said Wednesday.

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/nation...na045000c.html

[Benjamin]

How very surprising . Anywho...

Congratulations to the Prince Akishino and Princess Kiko (and the IHA, of course)!

[Zonk]

Sister Morphine..I am not sure what you mean. Manipulated in what way? IVF....using advanced technology to make sure it was a boy?

[kimebear]

While not necessarily legal or ethical, it is medically possible to ensure that only male embryos are implanted during IVF. No suprise here. I'm just suprised that they didn't do that with Masako.

[magnik]

Good that it was safe dalivery for mother and child. Congrats to parents and IHA
They have what they want.
Pitty all CPly family.

Once again - why I'm not surprise?

[Sister Morphine]

Originally Posted by Zonk1189

Sister Morphine..I am not sure what you mean. Manipulated in what way? IVF....using advanced technology to make sure it was a boy?

What Elspeth and kimebear said is what I was talking about.


I don't feel that it's fair. If they wanted only boys from the start and put so much pressure on these two women to produce males, they should have just done it to begin with. I feel part of CP Masako's problems stemmed from the pressure to produce a male child.

[Elspeth]

Pre-implantation genetic diagnosis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preimpl...etic_diagnosis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_selection

[HMQueenElizabethII]

Congratulations to Prince Akishino and Princess Kiko....Glad that they are having another baby.....
However, it's still sad for the Crown Princely family....Although we all know if Princess Aiko becomes the Empress, alot more of duties will fall on her shoulders, but it is still unfair to treat women like that.....although i'm a boy, but i think in the modern 21st century, it's not great with a patriarchal view exist. Yah, and now the baby is third in line to the throne putting Princess Aiko out of the important royal circles.

[Mahoogie]

Originally Posted by HMQueenElizabethII

Congratulations to Prince Akishino and Princess Kiko....Glad that they are having another baby.....
However, it's still sad for the Crown Princely family....Although we all know if Princess Aiko becomes the Empress, alot more of duties will fall on her shoulders, but it is still unfair to treat women like that.....although i'm a boy, but i think in the modern 21st century, it's not great with a patriarchal view exist. Yah, and now the baby is third in line to the throne putting Princess Aiko out of the important royal circles.

HMQueenElizabeth- I thought you were a female ..Back to the topic, I feel happy for the birth of the new prince and future emperor...But I still wish that Princess Masako and Prince Naruhito would have a child again..Well, there are rumors that Modern Technology had helped Princess Kiko to get pregnant and produce a son, if that is true, well Masako might have chances if she would try what Princess Kiko had undergone...but it would only create pressures again and I think that Masako is quite happy and much contented now..but if she and her husband would want to have another child, they could coz nowadays, with modern medicine nothing is impossible..

[Mahoogie]

I must say that I quite believe those rumors that Princess Kiko was helped by technology in order to conceive and give birth to a baby boy, this was carefully planned..As you can see, the Princess had suffered Placenta Previa, meaningthe Placenta is low-lying or located on the lower part of the womb-and this is abnormal..There is a possibility that this is a complication of the artificial implantation or genetic procedures in order for the princess to conceive a boy..These are risky procedures and not all clients conceive and give birth successfully..I must say that it really takes a lot of courage and determination for a couple to try this procedure because of the risks and low success rates..Prince Akishino and Princess Kiko are just lucky..