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Old 07-18-2018, 08:28 AM
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Dismal... are they really in 2018 ?????
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:58 AM
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On July 17th, the IHA issued a letter to Fordham University to clarify that Kei Komuro is not Princess Mako's fiancé. Based on Imperial tradition, the Nosai-no-Gi ceremony formalizes an engagement.

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I suppose that answers my question whether Fordham University is cooperating with the Imperial Household Agency.

When two people intend to marry (as the IHA said they do), it is accurate to characterize them as "fiancé/es" in English. Doesn't the Japanese press even use the Japanese term for "fiancé" to refer to Kei?


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Awkward… I wish the IHA left it alone. News about Kei's law school plans was starting to slow. Now the agency's letter puts the spotlight back on Kei and his limbo status.
Yes, why was the letter issued two weeks after the announcement (infighting once again)?


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This is so awkward... It's like they are emphasising this point as a preamble for the marriage not going forward in the future, because it was never 'formalized'.
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Wow, that's bad. They organized a press conference to announce they would get engaged.

The IHA really wants the two of them to break up. I feel so sorry for the couple who are clearly in love but their powerful surroundings are in attack mode and might not rest until the relationship is broken off.
Agreed. On the other hand, perhaps the letter was intended mainly to blame Fordham University for making the announcement without the consent of the IHA, and/or to make clear before Kei Komuro enters the United States that he is a private citizen and does not speak for the Japanese imperial family.

I wonder how the letter will be interpreted by the university, considering that it is foreign and has never (I assume) engaged with the IHA or the politics of the imperial family. Hopefully Kei Komuro's status at the school will not be affected.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:35 AM
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Wow......what century are they living in? This is not the dark ages here IHA. I have been following this family since the crown prince couple and what goes on in this family with the control of the IHA is not of this world even in the dark ages I suspect....very sad for this lovely young couple that seem so in love. Princess Mako seems like such a well bred lovely young lady to have this happen to her is just sad and wrong ........no escape for her ever from the clutches of IHA.......
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Old 07-18-2018, 06:30 PM
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Oh wow, this is awkward to say the least. So does that mean the wedding won't be happening now? They seemed like such a nice couple and well suited for one another, it's a shame.
The IHA really is going to die out if they continue to have such rigid and outdated laws.
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Old 07-18-2018, 08:29 PM
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Oh wow, this is awkward to say the least. So does that mean the wedding won't be happening now? They seemed like such a nice couple and well suited for one another, it's a shame.
The IHA really is going to die out if they continue to have such rigid and outdated laws.
Unfortunately, the IHA seems to have much more power than the Emperor.
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The opinions of the IHA and the Emperor may or may not differ. Emperor Akihito prefers to uphold the older ways in some matters. While the Koizumi government was drawing up proposals to introduce gender equal succession, he signaled that he wanted to have a grandson to succeed as emperor.
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:37 PM
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What a strange request for want a grandson like get one for me please.....Does he not know that when a person is born it is not anyone's choice on that gender they are going to have? I have always liked him and thought well of him yet that saying of wanting a certain gender is just arrogant to me. Yes I know about the 2nd son's little boy and that has always disturbed me about this family yet gave it a pass and then found the attitude that like women are of no importance except to bear children and heaven forbid if not male........I would not last in a society like that at all......head would be gone quickly no doubt........
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:23 PM
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The opinions of the IHA and the Emperor may or may not differ. Emperor Akihito prefers to uphold the older ways in some matters. While the Koizumi government was drawing up proposals to introduce gender equal succession, he signaled that he wanted to have a grandson to succeed as emperor.
Right you are. Prime Minister Koizumi was chastised for arrogance. I was taken aback by NHK commentators' harsh, even vicious, criticism of Mr Koizumi's suggestions. They said that he forgot his place and was not supposed to initiate a debate on the issue.
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:30 PM
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It's in the New York Times...

Urg... the IHA could have ignored the Fordham University's blog post and let Kei begin his studying aboard quietly. But no, their reactionary behavior made the situation worst. Mako's 2-week Brazil trip would have buried Kei's law school move.

He’s Supposed to Marry a Japanese Princess. Just Don’t Call Him Her Fiancé. - The New York Times
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On Thursday, in response to a request by Japan’s Imperial Household Agency, which oversees the ceremonial functions and protocols of the royal family, Fordham removed a phrase from a news release that had trumpeted Mr. Komuro, a paralegal in Tokyo, as the “fiancé of Princess Mako of Japan.”

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In a statement, Fordham Law said it had decided to amend the news release after consulting with both the agency and Mr. Komuro.

“Out of respect for the long traditions and practices of the Imperial Household Agency, we decided to remove the word ‘fiancé’ from the announcement because the betrothal ceremony has not yet been held,” it said.

Japanese tabloids speculated that either the Imperial Household Agency had nudged Mr. Komuro out of the country or that he had decided to flee to the United States to escape continuous prying by the news media. Commentators on social media were swift to criticize Mr. Komuro’s motives.

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Mihoko Suzuki, an English professor at the University of Miami who has written about monarchies in Europe, suggested that both the Imperial Household Agency and the Japanese public were being far too tough on the couple.

[...] the negative coverage of Princess Mako’s fiancé and his mother seems unfairly aggressive.”

She added that the couple had been "victimized by the scandal-mongering tabloid press, and the Imperial Household Agency is reacting to the avalanche of negative press — apparently since last fall — by walking back on the engagement." [...]

Before there was the whiff of scandal, the Japanese public seemed to warm to Princess Mako’s choice of her college sweetheart, with swoony coverage of the couple describing how they had met and their dating habits.

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In one hint that the princess may be preparing for a long-distance relationship, the Imperial Household Agency’s schedule of her trip this week to Brazil showed a stopover on the way home — in New York.
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That stopover during Princess Mako's return from Brazil to Japan was simply a stopover. Kei isn't in New York yet.

On August 4th, Kei was picked up at Akasaka-Mitsuke station and driven to the Akishino residence. He had dinner with the Akishino family, staying for 2 hours and leaving around 9pm. It seems he saying farewell before his departure. According to stakeholders, he leaves for the U.S. next week and his last day at Okuno & Partners law firm was July 30th.

Sources: news.tbs.co.jp, news.tv-asahi.co.jp, news24.jp
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Kei Komuro was pictured at Narita airport today, August 7, on his way to New York:


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Old 08-07-2018, 01:24 PM
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Hummmmmm, not a very happy man on his way to a great school in the US, in fact he looks quite angry to me. Very sad what has happened to to him and Princess Mako.
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Yea...well, it's understandable. The media attention is daunting on top of postponing the engagement. He needed police/airport security escort to the gate.

I hope the Japanese media will leave him alone in NY. I also feel for his mother. Only child leaving for 3 years.


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I hope so too that he is left alone, and I so feel for his mother for that is a very long way to go to get that education. I also really really hope that the marriage goes through and that they can withstand the time and distance. I have been a fan of the crown princess long before she married into the royal family and it shudders me to think how the IHA controls the family. I just wonder if they, the IHA had anything to do with this postponement of the marriage. And I wonder if Princess Mako has any way to keep in contact with him while he is away....I would not do good in this royal family at all.......would be running for my life real quick if this happened to me.

Thank you for the video and all the info, I will keep reading what is going on with this couple yet will not be surprised if there is no marriage at all and Princess Mako is engaged to another by her own will or an arranged marriage.
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I don't blame Mr. Komuro for looking (very) angry. The atmosphere seems so tense in that airport that one could hear a pin drop...
It all seems very Victorian, sending him halfway across the world because he wasn't a "suitable candidate" or whatever for Princess Mako.
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Poor guy. I guess the IHA sees this as his opportunity to redeem himself but is extremely harsh on the couple. They have been waiting to get married for a long time and now there is another forced separation of 3 years. It is even harsher considering the fact that Mako will have to leave the imperial family upon marriage but still they want to control whom and when she marries.
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I have a Japanese friend and she tells me it is all that people are talking about. Everyone it seems (according to my friend) is appalled at the situation the couple find themselves confronting. Not right.
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I feel he is not good enough for the princess. The fact that he and his Mother were/are members of a infamous cult is bad enough! He’s quite a social climber. In my opinion Princesses of the imperial family should marry good families to compensate for their loss of status and income.
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Interesting perspective. Apparently Mako loves Kei and that's why she wants to marry him, do you really think it is in her best interest to marry someone else just because he has more money or comes from the 'right' family?

It's not that they just met and announced their engagement in a rush (that's what one of her second cousins did but apparently his family is considered more appropriate); Mako had plenty of time to think about it and was able to convince her family that he was the man she wants to spend her life with. But now some people that only care about the imperial family's image (which she is forced to leave upon marriage - so she is disposable but still needs to live up to their expectations) decided that she is just a puppet that has to listen.
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I have a Japanese friend and she tells me it is all that people are talking about. Everyone it seems (according to my friend) is appalled at the situation the couple find themselves confronting. Not right.
I am glad to hear that the Japanese people also see the absurdity of this situation. However, I wonder whether a Japanese man would want to be pitied upon. Isn't that perceived badly?
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