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Old 11-20-2013, 04:58 PM
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That seems likely, here a link to Marlene's blog:

Royal Musings: Prince Amedeo of Belgium: gone public?

The lady in question is Lili Rosbach von Wolkenstein. Apparently a granddaughter of the 8th prince of Castagneto, but from the wrong side of the blanket.

It seems that Ms. Rosbach works for Bloomberg.
Interesting. I was beginning to believe the story of the Italian girlfriend was an urban legend. She's attractive, but does look a little older than him.

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I get this news by gossiping with some friends we share. I found out something more: she's a relative of the Caracciolos, princes of Castagneto and so also of the Agnelli-Elkann-de Pahlen family.
She has been referred to before in this forum; see post above from 4 years ago.

Lili's grandfather is Filippo Caracciolo, 8th Prince of Castagneto, making her father's half-sister Marella Agnelli - matriarch of the Fiat clan. Marella's daughter Margherita is the one who married Alain Elkann then Count Serge de Pahlen, and her son John (Jaki) is the head of Fiat. Jaki is married to Lavinia Borromeo, sister of Isabella (wife of Ugo Brachetti-Peretti) and Matilde, (wife of Antonius Von Fürstenberg) and half-sister of Beatrice (Pierre Casiraghi's girlfriend). Jaki's sister Ginevra is married to Conte Don Giovanni Gaetani dell'Aquila d'Aragona, heir to Piedmonte. Another cousin Jacaranda is married to Prince Fabio Borghese.
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:20 PM
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Keeping track of the dynastic intricacies of the Agnellis is exhausting. I had no idea that family was so enormous and so interconnected.
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It seem they are a couple. She attended his graduation from the military academy in 2007

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I know there are 6 years between the two pictures, but the girl on that picture doesn't seem to be Lili to me...

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And who is the girl yawning? Laeticia Maria?
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Old 12-04-2013, 01:56 PM
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Here is an article from Het Nieuwsblad about Amedeo and his supposed girlfriend.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:38 PM
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Here is an article from Het Nieuwsblad about Amedeo and his supposed girlfriend.
What are the noble roots of Lili Rosboch von Wolkenstein
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Old 12-25-2013, 06:06 AM
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Amadeo with Lili attended a wedding together
http://25.media.tumblr.com/4212b8a69...sx5zo1_500.png

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Old 12-26-2013, 07:06 AM
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The latest "Point de vue" has dedicated one article to love story between prince Amadeo and Lili Rosboch. The article is a summary of their story and includes few photos. Recently Amadeo and Lili have attended together a gala organised par la Fondazione.
According to the article prince Amadeo has begun to prepare his MBA who should be finished next june. So there's will be a time to a royal wedding next summer?
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Old 12-27-2013, 12:18 AM
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What are the noble roots of Lili Rosboch von Wolkenstein

See post #262, above
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Rumours about an imminent engagement announcement
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Old 01-12-2014, 10:47 PM
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I've always thought of Amedeo as quite a "catch"...the cream of the crop of young European princes. She's a lucky girl!
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What are the noble roots of Lili Rosboch von Wolkenstein
She is noble from both sides of her family...As Ceallach said Lili is a male-line granddaughter of Prince Fillipo Carraciolo di Castagnieto,Duke of Melito...

Her mother is Countess Anna Maria(Lilia) di Smecchia,who also descends from Italian(Counts di Smecchia),Austrian and German noble families(such as famous bankers and philanthropists Barons Günzburg,von Gutmann,Wimmer von Walpurg,Schwabel von Adlersburg,von Scheller)like Lili's father Ettore...

Although Lili just bears this family name,the family was bestowed a nobility on Italian Senator Ettore Bernardo Rosboch and that's why Lili and her father have this predicate nobile...while von Wolkenstein part of the family name came through Ettore's mother Baroness Elisabeth von Jaworski,whose mother was Countess Anna von Wolkenstein-Trotsburg und Neuhaus...

She and Amedeo are even related in several ways...the closest one is that they both descended from Fürst(Prince) Franz Albrecht von Oettingen-Spielberg:


Here is the line to Nobile Lili Rosboch von Wolkenstein:

Prince Franz Albrecht I von Oettingen-Spielberg(1663-1737)
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Princess Maria Josefa zu Oettingen-Speilberg(1694-1738)
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Prince Hermann von Hohenzollern-Hechingen(1665-1733)
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Princess Maria Christiana von Hohenzollern-Hechingen(1715-1749)
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Count Wenzel Joseph von Thun und Hohenstein(1737-1796)
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Countess Elisibeth von Thun und Hohenstein(1783-1860)
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Count Otto von Westphalen zu Fürstenberg(1807-1856)
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Countess Elisabeth Anna von Westphalen zu Fürstenberg(1845-1907)
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Countess Anna von Wolkenstein-Trotsburg und Neuhaus(1882-1965)
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Baroness Elisabeth von Jaworski(1915-1959)
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Nobile Ettore Rosboch von Wolkenstein(born in 1945)
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Nobile Lili Rosboch von Wolkenstein(born in 1987)



And here is the line to Prince Amedeo:

Prince Franz Albrecht I von Oettingen-Spielberg(1663-1737)
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Princess Maria Franziska von Oettingen-Spielberg(1703-1737)
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Prince Karl Friedrich von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen(1724-1785)
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Prince Anton Aloys von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen(1762-1831)
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Prince Karl Anton von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen(1785-1853)
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Prince Karl Anton von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen(1811-1885)
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Princess Marie von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen(1845-1912)
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King Albert I of the Belgians(1875-1934)
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King Leopold III of the Belgians(1901-1983)
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King Albert II of the Belgians(born in 1934)
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Princess Astrid of Belgium(born in 1962)
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Prince Amedeo of Belgium,Archduke of Austria-Este(born in 1986)
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Keeping track of the dynastic intricacies of the Agnellis is exhausting. I had no idea that family was so enormous and so interconnected.
Well,read this

The Mysterious Heirs of Italian Prince Carlo Caracciolo | Vanity Fair

Rosboch von Wolkensteins are also mentioned among many other noble family names

Ettore even spoke to the journalist...

Lili Rosboch von Wolkenstein was baptized in Garavicchio-the estate in question in the article,property of Caraciollo family...Her father inherited 700.000 $ from his half-brother Prince Carlo Caracciolo,Lili inherited 300.000 $ from him...
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Marlene Koenig is interviewed by the Flemish programme VTM royalty. She suspects that Lili is a nickname and her real name is Elisabetta.

Vriendin prins Amedeo is verre nicht | VTM

via: Royal Musings: Belgian TV: Amedeo and Lili

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Thanks for posting that Vanity Fair article Marc23. It reads like a Fellini movie (or the more recent 'la grande Belezza' by Sorrentino). BTW the article also states: "Ettore Rosboch, heir to a pharmaceutical fortune from his Austrian mother". While elsewhere it was established that Lili is an only child.
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Thanks for posting that Vanity Fair article Marc23. It reads like a Fellini movie (or the more recent 'la grande Belezza' by Sorrentino). BTW the article also states: "Ettore Rosboch, heir to a pharmaceutical fortune from his Austrian mother". While elsewhere it was established that Lili is an only child.
I posted it because it gives more insight about the Rosboch von Wolkenstein family,their relations and connections...

If the wedding is planned,we can assume there will be very interesting guest list
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Indeed it will be, Italian jetset mixed with Belgian/Habsburg Opus-Dei royalty. Judging from the article cousin Jacaranda Borghese won't be invited. I believe her sister-in-law Alessandra Borghese is a good friend of Gloria TuT, a very good friend according to some.

You have to admire the zest for life of these Italian upper classes. They seem to live in a never ending Martini commercial. Though for us middle class dullards it seems rather messy.

BTW, I wonder if there is a closer connection between the two, via the princes Ruffo.
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BTW, I wonder if there is a closer connection between the two, via the princes Ruffo.
So far no :(

Prince Franz Albrecht zu Oettingen-Spielberg is the closest connection of the two...it was also said in the video you posted :-)

I just followed the lines and posted them...it was mainly because of Lili Rosboch von Wolkenstein's ancestors as someone asked about her noble roots...

They are pretty strong indeed from both sides of her family...
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Prince Amedeo and his fiancée Lili received a blessing from the pope today in Rome along with 10 000 other couples. This confirms the rumors about them being engaged (since the pope was blessing engaged couples).

Article and video here
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