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Old 12-26-2018, 04:08 PM
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I've been reading information on Elisabetta's family.
Elisabetta and Amedeo are still cousins.
You can read here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince...tta_of_Belgium
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Old 12-26-2018, 05:55 PM
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I've been reading information on Elisabetta's family.
Elisabetta and Amedeo are still cousins.
You can read here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince...tta_of_Belgium
I hope Wikipedia will stop rehashing untruths about the names, styles and titles of Prince Amedeo and his family.

In every instance - legal documents, the official website, announcements, and so forth:

1. Amedeo and his parents and siblings always use the style of HRH (not HI&RH).
2. Elisabetta is always styled as either "Princess Amedeo of Belgium" or "Princess Elisabetta" (not "Princess Elisabetta of Belgium").
3. Elisabetta did not give up her surname (Rosboch von Wolkenstein) on marriage.
4. Anna Astrid is always styled "Princess Anna Astrid" (never "Archduchess Anna Astrid"), even in her birth certificate.

Official information and sources about the titles of Elisabetta and Anna Astrid are quoted in these posts:
Anna Astrid: Titles of the Belgian Royal Family
Elisabetta: 25th Anniversary of King Baudouin's Death - 2018

How the Royal Court addresses Prince Amedeo and his family can be seen in the official cards they publish:
http://koninklijkepost.punt.nl/categ...medeo-en-lilly

Elisabetta's surname can be seen in the decree of 2015, a year after their marriage, which addressed her as "Mrs. Elisabetta Maria Rosboch von Wolkenstein".
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I've been reading information on Elisabetta's family.
It is also interesting that she also has a connection to Liechtenstein.

Apart from bearing the same name she is related to Fürstin Elisabeth Sarlota (Elsa) von und zu Liechtenstein, born von Gutmann.

In fact, through her mother, Lili is her first cousin 4 times removed.

Elsa's father Wilhelm, Ritter von Gutmann was older brother of Lili's great-great-great grandfather David, Ritter von Gutmann.
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It is also interesting that she also has a connection to Liechtenstein.

Apart from bearing the same name she is related to Fürstin Elisabeth Sarlota (Elsa) von und zu Liechtenstein, born von Gutmann.

In fact, through her mother, Lili is her first cousin 4 times removed.

Elsa's father Wilhelm, Ritter von Gutmann was older brother of Lili's great-great-great grandfather David, Ritter von Gutmann.
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The Christmas card of the couple with a picture of the family!

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I wonder why this has just been made public now (though Amedeo and Elisabetta do seem to be more private members of the BRF), though it's a lovely card nevertheless.
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I wonder why this has just been made public now (though Amedeo and Elisabetta do seem to be more private members of the BRF), though it's a lovely card nevertheless.
There have been occasions before when I have seen a blogger posting a card from the royal family months after the event. I am not sure if it is the bloggers or the Palace who are tardy.

I had wondered if they'd had more children after settling in Switzerland, but if the family photograph is any indication it appears they have not.
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Prince Amedeo and his wife Elisbetta are expecting their second child. They attended the Wedding of Fürst Otto zu Castell-Rüdenhausen and Sophie Mautner von Markhif on last weekend in Austria where Elisabetta was seen with an babybelly. No pictures so far.

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Happy for them….I'd love to see pix !
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Hope it's true. That would be wonderful news for the family!
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A little boy would be a wonderful addition. Name choosing for a child is interesting.
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A little boy would be a wonderful addition. Name choosing for a child is interesting.
If they like the alliteration: Leopold Lorenz (but that seems highly unlikely).
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If it's true, congratulations!
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If the report is true, I wonder if the royal palace will actually announce the pregnancy, birth, or name, seeing as the couple now lives in Switzerland. Even when they lived in Belgium, the announcement of their child's birth was displayed on the official social media but not on the official website. The pregnancy and name announcements were sent to the press and not released to the public at all, though media outlets did share them with the public.

Compared to other European royals in their position, including the Orange-Nassau princes, the York princesses, and Prince Nikolai of Denmark, the children of Princess Astrid have been kept virtually invisible by the palace and the press.


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If they like the alliteration: Leopold Lorenz (but that seems highly unlikely).
According to the palace spokesman, Princess Anna Astrid was named for her grandmothers, so Ettore or Lorenz, perhaps? I am not sure if Ettore Lorenz or Lorenz Ettore would be considered a normal name to Belgian or Italian parents.
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Happy for them….I'd love to see pix !
There will probably pics later as there was some Press at the Wedding.
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I'm happy to hear this news! Congratulations to Amedeo and Elisabetta
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Picture of the happy couple in the Wedding of Fürst Otto zu Castell-Rüdenhausen and Sophie Mautner von Markhif

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According to the palace spokesman, Princess Anna Astrid was named for her grandmothers, so Ettore or Lorenz, perhaps? I am not sure if Ettore Lorenz or Lorenz Ettore would be considered a normal name to Belgian or Italian parents.
From an Italian point of view Ettore Lorenz sounds better than the other way around, but maybe they won't repeat themselves, choosing their fathers' names
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If the report is true, I wonder if the royal palace will actually announce the pregnancy, birth, or name, seeing as the couple now lives in Switzerland. Even when they lived in Belgium, the announcement of their child's birth was displayed on the official social media but not on the official website. The pregnancy and name announcements were sent to the press and not released to the public at all, though media outlets did share them with the public.

Compared to other European royals in their position, including the Orange-Nassau princes, the York princesses, and Prince Nikolai of Denmark, the children of Princess Astrid have been kept virtually invisible by the palace and the press.






According to the palace spokesman, Princess Anna Astrid was named for her grandmothers, so Ettore or Lorenz, perhaps? I am not sure if Ettore Lorenz or Lorenz Ettore would be considered a normal name to Belgian or Italian parents.

Amedeo’s children are not princes of Belgium ( under the most recent royal decree of 2015), so I don’t think their birth has to be announced in any official website.

On the other hand, the Palace maintains that the Belgian Royal Family includes “ all descendants of Léopold III” , which would include Amedeo’s children, so it is a tough call.
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Amedeo’s children are not princes of Belgium ( under the most recent royal decree of 2015), so I don’t think their birth has to be announced in any official website.

On the other hand, the Palace maintains that the Belgian Royal Family includes “ all descendants of Léopold III” , which would include Amedeo’s children, so it is a tough call.
If it was the "of [Country]" that mattered, though, the births of Prince Félix of Luxembourg's children or Princess Margriet of the Netherlands' grandchildren would not have been announced on the official websites of their respective families. Just as Amedeo's children are princes but not princes of Belgium under the royal decree of 2015 (Titles of the Belgian Royal Family), Félix's children are princes but not princes of Luxembourg under the Luxembourg house law of 2012 (Family Bylaws Concerning the House Law of the House of Luxembourg-Nassau). The grandchildren of Princess Margriet are completely untitled.

The Palace does not have to announce the births of any members of the Royal Family, even those of then-crown prince Philippe, but the handling of Princess Astrid's children and grandchildren is an interesting and noticeable difference from royals in the same position in nearby monarchies.
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