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Navy fraud suspects have different stories
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Prince Laurent goes to court
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so, is he just a witness, or could he get into big trouble?
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I translated an article from Humo about prince Laurent:

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Next week in Hasselt several naval officers will be on trial. They are accused of having embazzled 2.2 million euros of public money from 1998 to 2000.
Among them is captain (on-sea) Noel Vaessen, who was an advisor of Prince Laurent for six years. Through him Laurent is supposed to have taken his share to: 187500 euros for the decoration of his Villa Clementine and for his 'Foundation Prince Laurent'. Vaessen, who is also accused of embazzlement for personal use, will have to account for himself, the prince doesn't. Humo has gotten into the matter and has become aware that whatever his father may say in his christmas speech, the prince has been standing above the law for years. A portrait of a 'schnabbel'-king: 'maybe we have to make clear to him that there is nothing wrong with working for a living'.

Shall we start with a confession? For years we thought Laurent was the coolest member of the royal family. He made out in discotheques, came terribly late for family gatherings was speeding with his sportscar on the lane to Laeken Palace and had an adversity to any protocol or ceremony. If the 21st century ever started at the palace, that would largely be because of him.

Unforgetable are the images of Laurent dressed as santa-claus who tried to squeeze himself on a dark winter night, into the far to small car of Francois-Xavier de Donnea, to make Brussels unsafe ('Hohoho, who are we? Santa-Claus? No, the Prince!'). Sadly another image of the prince also appeared to us: not the sympathetic comic-figure but a guy with a chronical lack of money who is constantly looking for a hole in the market and to people who can be of use to him. And if this goes wrong, monseigneur just gets away.

In the courttrial in Hasselt, Noel Vaessen, former advisor of the prince has to account for the illegal use of 187500 euros for the prince. Marc Rubens, procureur of the king already said before the trial: 'the prince knows nothing about this'. The prosecutors office even didn't found it necesary to question Laurent at all. And Vaessen? He went craazy and in doesn't leave anything standing of the Prince in three long articles in 'Het Laatste Nieuws'. In essense he says this: the Prince is a spoiled brat who thinks he can get away with anything. Or in Vaessen's words: 'On a day the prince stepped into a bakeryshop in Chaumont-Gistoux and ordered a cake of 12 euros. Without embarrasment he asked the baker if he could have it for 10 euros to. The baker awnsered that the price was the same for everybody, prince or no prince. When the baker packed the cake the prince put 8 euros on the counter and said he did not have more money and left.

A secret abortion
Prince Laurent is longer then today the 'free electron' of the Royal Family. He is capable of anything, the worst and the best. You don't know what to expect from him. He suffered more then his siblings Phillipe and Astrid from the turbulent lovelife of his parents: home was everything but a warm safe haven. He was rarely there and if it was possible they would let others take care of him. When things with the rebelious nephew seemed tp turn out wrong, King Baudouin tried to take care of him personally. But this also turned out wrong: the serious monarch did not have any understanding
for the frivolous life of the prince, they never made amends again. In 1991 Baudouin changed the Salic law: from now on women could also ascend the Belgian throne. Officially as a response to the changed role of women in modern society, but unofficially as a way to definately get rid of Laurent. 'La Derniere Heure' claimed to know what caused the definate rift between Baudouin and Laurent: an abortion from a girlfriend of Laurent. Rudy Bogaerts, teacher of the prince in the 80-ties doubts that: there were more things going on between uncle and nephew, 'but the abortion happened, no doubt about that'.

Rudy Bogaerts: 'Boudouin asked me personally to settle the case. That wasn't that easy for me as I am a member of Pro Vita, a movement against abortion. But Boudouin insisted: 'Le cardinal est d'accord'. And so I did what was asked. The girl, a daughter of a doctor from a provincial city in Flanders underwent the abortion in a catholic hospital at the Belgian coast.

In the beginning of the 90-ties the prince did internships in several places: Battele, Disney, the worldbank, the european commission. He was fairly proud of that untill he heard that his uncle paid his salery everywhere. As if he wasn't capable to do anything; the ego of the insecure prince got another severe blow. Laurent doesn't have it financially easy in those days. The prince lives in a small appartment of the Walloon family Solvay in Terhulpen. He doesn't get a dotation buyt 75000 belgian francs a month from his father.
With that he had to satiffy his hunger for pretty women, fast cars and exclusive watches. Vaessen says: 'Usually at the end of the month he was not able to afford food anymore. He lived on a diet of Cola and dry bread.
My wife and I gave him food, at our expenses.

Bogearts: 'Baudouin decided that Albert had to pay Laurents 75000 a month from his own dotation 'c'est assez'. Not only Laurent was angry about this but so was Albert, he was furious to pay that amount of money each month!
It seems to be a small amount for people on that level, but believe me, at the palace they are 'd'une avarice folle'. They turn around every penny twice, I once heard them having a fight over 1 liter of milk!' 'But ok, Laurent now was in trouble as he could not live from 75000 a month. He had to go somewhere else and he was surrounded by scandrals who were prepared to do anything'.

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On july 31st 1993 Baudouin dies. Seven days later - Albert hasn't even been sworn in- Laurent gets due to his mother the grand cross in the order of Leopold, the highest decoration possible. Paopla also insists that her son
gets sufficient possibilities to develop himself. Two months later the royal foundation gives him a nice place: Villa Clementine in Tervuren. Has the prince, after the death of Baudouin, come back into grace within the palace? Or are other things going on? Vaessen says the second was the case. The prince blackmailed his parents. 'Laurent wanted revenge. 'If they throw me down I will drag my father with me, he said to anybody who would listen. He did research about untidy businesses within his family. He was helped by Rudy Bopgaerts, private teacher of the Prince. Laurent collected documents against his father. A source in the palace seconds that story. 'Laurent has written a book, in Ductch: 'the nail to Baudouins coffin'. Rudy Bogaerts has that book.

'I have written a book' says Bogaerts, 'not Laurent. How would he do that? He is not capable to get two sentences on a paper. No, the book is mine - and I am not publishing it!'.
Humo: Didn't your information come from Laurent?
Bogaerts: He didn't know about anything. I heard these things of people at the Royal Golf Club in Tervuren for example. According to Vaessen, Laurents research was mainly directed to the then unknown extra marital daughter of Albert: Delphine Boel, and to the contacts of Albert with con-man Jean Pierre van Rossum.
'In those days my daughter and Prince Laurent frequently met' says Delphine's mother Sybille de Selys Longchamps. 'but the contacts were cheerfull and kind, you don't have to think any negative thing about that'.
Humo: do they still see each other?
Sybille dSL: 'No, not anymore, no'. 'The last time I met Laurent was at a cocktailparty by accident. Where is your wife, I asked. 'Elle s'occupe de mes enfants'(laughs), that is him'.

That Laurent did research finds Boagaerds to strong worded. The Prince did some naughty things, that he did. Then he would open magazine 'L'Evetail, where they had a picture of Delphine, and put it on Alberts desk on that fatal page. It was a way to get attention, to say 'I exsist'. He was the 5th wheel of the weagon, right? once when he arrived in Laeken Phillipe asked him 'QUe viens-tu faire chez nous?' Laurent didn't belong to them.

Jean Pierre van Rossem start in old-testamentish anger when we inform after his connection with the Royal Family. Wasn't he the member of parlament that said 'Vive la republique' when Albert said his oath? WHy would I, as a republican, want to have anything to do with that 'crapuul' of Coburgs? I never even saw Baudouin or Albert!
Humo: Didn't you inform Albert about the possibilities that your stockmodel Moneytron offered?
van Rossem: Albert? No. I gave his halfbrother advice once, but apparently that wasn't supposed to become public knowledge. Some dayys before my trial two men came to me, noticable for their innoticibility, with the announcement: 'One word about the halfbrother on the trial and you will be put away in prison for 20 years. If you remain silent you will be released after 1/3 of your punishment. The two men did not identify themselves.
Humo: Who was that halfbrother?
Van Rossum: I don't say any names. I don't want to have anything to do with that crap. But you would be shocked if you knew how many halfbrothers and -sisters the King has. Leopold III was productive!
Humo: Lord Willoughby de Broka, does the name say anything to you?
Van Rossum: The name isn't unfamiliar to me.
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Two green guys
In october 1993 Laurent leaves his appartment in Terhulpen for his villa in Tervuren. A villa that isn't exactly finished after the builders stopped working on it. Vaessen writes down 88 hidden defects: 'One can not live in this house'. The Royal Foudation repairs the damages
for the prince.

Vaessen coinsidently came into service of Laurent. He was actually meant to join the staff of the prince of Liege/Luik: he would succeed the private secretary of Albert. Only, when in july 1993 Baudouin dies, Albert wants to keep as many familiar faces around him as possible.
As a king already a high number of new people will be forced upon him.
Vaessen, who sometimes sleeps in the stables with the horses, then was detached to Laurent, under the assumption that things will work out between the two green guys. Vaessen gets the difficult task to reconsile Laurent with his parents en to bring meaning and structure in Laurents life.
Togetehr with the kings cabinet chef Jaques van Ypersele de Strihou , prime minister Jean-Luc Dehaene and governor of the national bank Fons Verplaetse he comes up with 'KINT', the Royal Institute for natural resources and the promotion of clean technology, and gives the prince the
chairmanship. The prince will earn 1 million francs a month (aprox. 25.000 euros), bruto that is, the prince will be tthe first member of the royal family that pays taxes over his income. The agreement is that the three districs and private sponsors will have to deliver the money. In exchange
the prince guarentees that he will give 9 accomplishments a year, 3 for each district. He also will make a report of each accomplishment. The prince gets two employees, one director and one secretary. Belgacom delivers the infrastructure, the Brussels intercommunale for watersuply
takes care of the printing.


'We received the request to co-found KINT' says Jean-Luc Dehaene. 'And that we did, it was especially the work of Fons Verplaetse - call it a kind of dotation for the prince'
Humo: Did the question come from Jaques van Ypersele?
Dehaene: I won't give any names
Humo: Because the prince was showing an embarrasing file around?
Dehaene: No comment
From Fons Verplaetse we hear nothing at all. He refuses any comment.But our source in the palace says: 'The prince received an advance payment on his salary from Verplaetse, it was always a part of the money because the ministery of finance hesitated for a long time how much taxes the prince
had to pay. In the end they decided 33%. One wonders with what right Verplaetse payed these advance payments'.

Vaessen also takes care of the prince in another way. Villa Clementine still has to be decorated. The navy takes care of all the costs, that is possible because of an easy tric: KINT and Villa Clementine are both registered at the same adress. Money, intended for KINT can easily be used for the villa
of the prince.

Vaessen in 'Het Laatste Nieuws': 'I ordered works in the villa for the amount of 20 million francs. The decoration of the villa and the security were done completely with public money. For me that seemed legal. An important sponsor was the army. Admiral Willy Herteleer was very kind to
the prince and had the opinion that the prince, as a former officer of the navy, was entitled to a chique life. Herteleer also refuses any comment.

For all clarity: the court doesn't do any research to trace down the origin of all these millions, for some reason they do not find that interesting. The court only does research after fraud from 1998-2000.

Very violent
The prince has a roof above his head and a filled wallet and more work then he likes. Everything to live a more 'meaningfull and structured' life, but he still sometimes derails. More then once he hits his then girlfriend 'D.', both in Terhulpen as in Tervuren. Desperate, D. files a complaint with the police
of Terhulpen but later withdraws it again: she realises that it wouldn't change anything.

She does not regret that she didn't go on with the complaint, she does regret that she didn't leave the prince earlier -two years can be long. She loved him: that is why she stayed that long. Vaessen told her that Laurent had 5 other girlfriends at the same time, she didn't want to believe him.
To friends she complained about the double character of Laurent, one moment sweet and thoughtfull and another moment violent.

The story of this girl is known in the better circles of Brussels The loose hand of the prince are that to. Humo knows about two other girls that were hitt by Laurent, before and after D.
Bogaerts: 'I had to comfort a lot of girls because they were hit by the prince. And their mothers were still encouraging them: bite your teeth for a while longer, you will become princess. People get crazy when they get close to the royal family!'.

Fictional association
In 1996 the Prince Laurent Foundation is founded. Together with his good friend doctor Jean Bastien the prince profiles himself as the defender of animal welfare. He doesn't get paid for this but he can claim back his costs. The agreement ios that laurent, as chairman of KINT keeps away from any commercial ventures. He doesn't succeed.Regularly he hides behind KINT to make some extra money.For example, in 1995 there was a balloon journey planned of the Turkish part of the famous silkroute.. Wim Verstraeten is the balloontraveller.

'In 1995' Verstraeten says 'the Kurds and the Turks were fighting again. It wasn't that easy to start an expidition at that location.Our foreign minister, Frank Vandenbroecke was against the idea. It wasn't tolerable he said: Turkey violated human rights. But Laurent, who knows a lot of aristocratic families in Turkey went ahead and received, due to his contacts with these families, within 14 days a 'topbudget', chapeau!
Humo: Did he fly in the balloon to?
Verstraeten: For that the case was much to sensitive. He stayed away with pain in his heart.
Humo: Why did the prince want this balloon journey that much?
Verstraeten: He was completely taken by the beauty of the landscape. That couldn't beruined by mafia or real estate agents, he thought. The silkrout is beautiful'.

The journey was, according to Verstraeten, organised by KINT. the landscape architects of the landscape foundation and by the Institute du Monde. A small problem: the Institute du Monde, that publishes a book and a movie, doesn't exsist. According to Graydon (a bureau specialised in business information) it never exsisted. It is a fictional association of the prince and a lawyer from Brussels, who makes over money that was intended for KINT to his own bank account.

The case gives some uproar in the palace when the Turkish ambassador gives some very positive remarks about the coorporation with prince Laurent and the Institute du Monde to the king. The king is shocked by what he heard: it is the first time he hears anything about the institute. The Institute du Monde is dissolved in haste after this conversation.

The balloon voyage over Turkey is not an isolated case.When the prince travels abroad for KINT he tries to do business en pasant. In Qatar for example, where he just doesn't get the chairmanship of the international tennistournament. Or in Mauretania, where he negociates with the local
goverment about a concession in the local fishtrade. Vaessen's diplomatic carreer is tried more then once. The last straw was Laurents attempt to start a company for the production of new catalisors for gasturbines with a lower use and higher profit. Russia, a country with 300 electricity plants is a dreamed market for Laurent.

'Only during the meeting on the royal estate of Ciergnon' says Vaessen 'did I hear that it was about the foundation of a business. Laurent wanted half of the stocks. He had to pay 15 million francs for that, the other partners would also pay 15 million. That money was necesairy to get 70 million from the Walloon community. The subsidy was arranged by a member of the cabinet of defence. The project was defended at KINT by the head of the scientific commission, that had to remain silent about the huge commercial consequenses that were aimed at. In exchange for my 'diplomatic task' I would receive 2.5% of the stock'.

Another possibility was, according to Vaessen, that the prince would try to get a Astazou turbine from the navy. Such a turbine is also worth 15 million francs. Vaessen immidiately informs the palace. As a result the Russian dream of the prince ends there and Vaessen leaves the prince's service.

Friends of the prince
Vaessen returns to the army in the beginning of 1999, where he ends up in the general staff after a month. In the mean time he receives from the king the commandorship in the order of Leopold: for emminence in advice to the prince. He becomes head of the acquirement-service for the navy, he doesn't belong to the navy where 2.2 million euros mysteriously disappeared. According to the prosecutors office in Hasselt Vaessen had made decorations for the Prince for the amount of 150.000 euros through a system of fake bills. That isn't impossible but it isn't logical either, Vaessen left the prince with a row, why would he give him any gifts?
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The prosecutors office also claims that Vaessen used 200.000 euros to restore his own house in the Hoge Venen. Vaessen denies and points to somebody else. Vaessen reproaches the researchers that they do not know the law on public assignments well enough. The story in the press that he used end-years credits falsely by the use of fake bills, he calls insane. (...) And about the 150.000 euros of the prince, the price for the alarm instalation of Villa Clementine falls also under that amount and those costs should be listed under the 'discretionairy capacity' of the highest person in the nave, admiral Michel Verhulst. 'Verhulst involved himself in that matter: I was covered. says Vaessen 'and I signed'. Verhulst denies. Mr. Vaessen took care of the money for the prince. I don't know anything about that.'
Humo: You are a good friend of Laurent. Your ex-cabinetchef, Georges Vanlerberghe, has succeeded Vaessen as advisor of the prince.
Verhulst: 'That doesn't have anything to do with this, I wish you a happy new year and goodbye.'
Who speaks the truth will get clear during the trial.

Immo Laurent
Back to Laurent Since the purple goverment started the prince has a true dotation, almsot 300.000 netto he gets from the goverment nowadays. The deal is that the prince does not start any commercial activities. But what is the case? A few months ago it became known that the prince sold the first pictures of his twins to the societypress. Weekly magazine 'Story' paid 15.000 euros in exchange for exclusiveness on the Flemmish market. And more stories reach us that the prince entered the real estate market with his foundation.

'A while ago' says businessman Aldo Vastapane, 'Laurent came to visit me to do business. I told him, you can't do that! I explained him that for a prince it is not suitable to be a executive for a commercial business. I assume they told that him at the palace to. I gave him the advice that, if he wants to make some extra money, he could start in real-estate. That is not really 'doing business', but I am not involved in that in any way.'

Doctor Bastien, spokesperson for the foundation Prince Laurent refuses any comment. The prince in real estate? Scandalous rumours, that is what they are!' Our source in the palace: 'The prince buys with his foundation houses in Brussels, restores them and sells them again. Just recently Brussels Prime Minister Charles Picque could just stop him from receiving subsidies for those renovative works. But the prince is unstopable, always his own profit, dotation or no dotation! ' Picque refuses to give comment on any member of the royal family.

Vaessen: 'They suggested to Laurent several times to give up his royal priviliges and become a businessman, like Prince Jean of Luxembourg did. But he refused that each time. Laurent eats from both sides, that is the problem.
Dehaene: 'In the light of recent developments we can ask ourselves the question if such a dotation to all the kings children is still justified. (...) Maybe we have to make clear to them that there is nothing wrong with working for a living. In other coutries like Luxembourg and The Netherlands princes and princesses already do that.
Bogaerts: I think I will involve myself in the topic Laurent again. Maybe I can persuade him to study again and to stand closer to his family. The demonisation of him should stop, Laurent isn't a bad guy, only weak.
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According to the Dutch news Prince Laurent will pay the 175.000 euros back with which he redecorated his Villa.
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Thanks for translating and posting the articles, Marengo . So Laurent is [basically] being left off the hook (but he just needs to pay a fine).
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Thanks for translating and posting the articles, Marengo . So Laurent is [basically] being left off the hook (but he just needs to pay a fine).
My guess is that Prince Laurent will be forced to pay back the circa € 185.000,-- of profit from the fraud via the Belgian Navy, which seems to have been committed without the Prince's knowledge and involvement.

But all this also caused a discussion about the lavish royal dotation for Princess Astrid and Prince Laurent. Many members of the Chamber and the Senate wonder if Belgium should not go to a comparable system like in the Netherlands (only a dotation for the present, the future and the former King and their eventual spouses, fixed by law).

This might lead to an end of the dotations to Princess Astrid and Prince Laurent. Both receive each some € 300.000,-- (some $ 400,000.--) netto a year as personal income, which is quite lavish for Princess Astrid (number 5 in the line of succession) and Prince Laurent (number 11 in the line of succession).
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Prince Laurent claimed that at the end of the week, he had hardly any money to buy food even though he was on €500,000. Now I find that very odd - I mean, what is he doing with his money? Where's it all going? If he can't afford to buy food then that's a serious money management problem.
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Prince Laurent claimed that at the end of the week, he had hardly any money to buy food even though he was on €500,000. Now I find that very odd - I mean, what is he doing with his money? Where's it all going? If he can't afford to buy food then that's a serious money management problem.
It looks like a money management problem indeed. No Belgian understands the problem the Prince has to meet ends. The villa in which he lives, Villa Clémentine, is given to his disposal by the Dotation Royale, a foundation established by King Leopold II in which many properties of the Belgian royal family have been placed.

The Prince lives for free in that villa. Yes, it looks like to be a money-management problem indeed which can be blamed on his troubled youth and adolescence and the 'neglect' which happened to him, leaving him lonely and alone in his guilded cage without any understanding about the real world. We see that with more rich kids. Princess Stéphanie de Monaco or Paris Hilton comes to mind.
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Prince Laurent to pay everything back
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Yes, it looks like to be a money-management problem indeed which can be blamed on his troubled youth and adolescence and the 'neglect' which happened to him, leaving him lonely and alone in his guilded cage without any understanding about the real world. We see that with more rich kids. Princess Stéphanie de Monaco or Paris Hilton comes to mind.
I think you indeed hit on the crux here. Having read Marengo's translation above (wow Marango, you did us an amazing service, karma points for you!!) I can only say that my sympathy for Laurent has even increased. The black sheep of the family.
As I see it, for years during his youth, when his parents were busy with themselves and their respective mistresses and lovers, they left their youngest son to his own devices. Of course, one is responsible for his own life eventually, but all the same, his was a dysfunctional family good for a Jerry Springer or Dr. Phil episode, sadly.
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Prince Laurent claimed that at the end of the week, he had hardly any money to buy food even though he was on €500,000. Now I find that very odd - I mean, what is he doing with his money? Where's it all going? If he can't afford to buy food then that's a serious money management problem.
The food-problem was a problem from before Laurent received that money. He only received 75000 BEF a month in the early 90-ties, which is aprox. 1500 euros.

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I read in a dutch newspaper that Laurent will probably only pay back the amount spent on furniture etc. and the Royal Foundation will pay the rest (alarmsystems, paint etc).

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And I agree Olga, probably all children suffered under the troubled marriage of Albert and Paola but Astrid and Phillipe at least were in favour with their uncle and aunt, Laurent had to miss their support to (though they probably tried). But he is over 40 now, so also responsible for his own decisions.
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...a slight diversion from the troubled life of Laurent....at one time someone had posted pictures of Louise with Laurent and Claire inside their home, Villa Clementine. I think those have been deleted from whatever thread had them because I have gone through everything trying to find them. Does someone have these photos and if so, can you post them here? Louise was just a baby -- a couple months old -- when they were taken. I'd be grateful for any help. If they aren't appropriate on this thread, can you PM them to me? Thanks.
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And I agree Olga, probably all children suffered under the troubled marriage of Albert and Paola but Astrid and Phillipe at least were in favour with their uncle and aunt, Laurent had to miss their support to (though they probably tried). But he is over 40 now, so also responsible for his own decisions.
You're right in that Astrid and Philippe came out well (as far as we know) considering the family circomstances they grew up in (parents quarreling on the brink of divorce). Still I get the sense that we only know the tip of the ice berg here. King Albert seems so amicable a guy. Why did he not get along with his youngest, to the extend where Laurent, in desparate attempts for attention, went off the deep end a bit? And do you all think that Paola perhaps wasn't the best of parents? Too self involved, seemingly? That's the impression I get from reading up on this. I could be totally wrong of course. She seems to be humble, at least these days. Ah, I'm going off topic here, sorry!

Also I wonder, back on topic, how you all see Laurent's future at this point. Does he still have some goodwill, at least enough for him to continue the great work he did (and he did!) fighting for animal rights (a not-so-popular topic, mysteriously, among royals at least)? Can he continue his charitable causes or will these organizations choose to distance themselves from him now that all this navy stuff has come out? Any news and opinions on this from our Belgian members?
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:29 PM
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...a slight diversion from the troubled life of Laurent....at one time someone had posted pictures of Louise with Laurent and Claire inside their home, Villa Clementine. I think those have been deleted from whatever thread had them because I have gone through everything trying to find them. Does someone have these photos and if so, can you post them here? Louise was just a baby -- a couple months old -- when they were taken. I'd be grateful for any help. If they aren't appropriate on this thread, can you PM them to me? Thanks.
wow that would be great indeed, I've never seen pictures of him and claire at their villa with baby Louise either!
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After reading some of these preceding posts, I wasn't aware that Albert and Paola's marriage was that strained. I guess you learn something new every day here.
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After reading some of these preceding posts, I wasn't aware that Albert and Paola's marriage was that strained. I guess you learn something new every day here.
yes it was and it is amazing that they reconciled if you consider what happened (illegitimate child, lots of affairs on both sides, etc.) But word is they are born again christians (Catholics!) of sorts, that, or, their faith helped them through the dark times and re-appreciate the other. As far as I've read.

Paola was on record recently saying something along these lines: "Albert and I had our problems but nowadays, we think we were made for each other." So cute! Wish Laurent hadn't been a victim of their darker marital days however.
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