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Old 10-06-2004, 05:55 PM
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Yeah, they visited the Pope twice in the past four years.
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Old 10-07-2004, 07:41 PM
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I agree. Religion is highly personal. My biological mother is Wiccan while my biological father is Islamic. Wicca has a lot of unwritten and unspoken rules but no one person is sitting up there telling you what to do. I don't see why religion plays such a role in ruling a country?
To royals it is consistency if anything.
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Old 10-08-2004, 07:08 AM
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I don't get it either. But yet again, I come from a very tolerant community.
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Old 10-09-2004, 10:35 PM
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Wouldn't bother me, I'm not religious. And besides, what's the point of living if you can't love and be married to the person you're madly in love with. Though I do believe converting for the sake of marriage isn't exactly smart. I mean it's your faith, I think that parliament and all the other people are ridiculous in their beliefs that the boys must marry a catholic. How would they feel if they were told they couldn't marry the person that they loved with all of their heart just because their religion was different. Personally, if I were religious and I was told i couldn't marry the guy I loved because we had different religions I'd be utterly pissed off. But that's just me.
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Old 10-10-2004, 10:13 PM
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Its not just you. It would be me too.
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Old 10-11-2004, 09:19 AM
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I third that ^__^
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Old 10-11-2004, 04:47 PM
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Unhappy

Catholic's are almost punished for marrying someone out of their religion. I was raised Mennonite by my adoptive parents and their are no rules in our church about marrying someone outside of the Christian faith.

I think conversion is stupid because the person was good enough while you were dating them why are they not good enough now that you want to marry them? Even if the guy were rich and handsome and I loved him he will have to deal with me as I am.
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Old 10-11-2004, 05:14 PM
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Are you sure about that? I think it is just if they are married in the Catholic church.
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Old 10-12-2004, 02:00 AM
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Catholic's are almost punished for marrying someone out of their religion. I was raised Mennonite by my adoptive parents and their are no rules in our church about marrying someone outside of the Christian faith.
No, Catholics aren't punished for marrying outside of their religion. As long as one of the couple is Catholic, they are welcome to be married in the Church. And you can always get married by a JOP or something if you don't want the hassle.

The point is, if Guillaume or Felix [or Louis or Sebastien for that matter] were to marry someone of a different faith, it's pretty clear that the girl would probably have to convert. The Church is a huge influence in Luxembourg, a lot like Spain. But then again, Felipe married an agnostic, didn't he? So, maybe not. But I think the Grand Duke and Grand Duchess would severely frown on the boys marrying a non-Catholic, especially since it's their traditional religion.

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Old 10-12-2004, 08:30 PM
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Luxembourg doesn't have a law requiring members of the family to be of any particular faith. The country is estimated to be about 95% Catholic, but it's illegal for the government to gather or publish statistics on religion. Many Luxembourgers are either non-practicing or not devout. While it's unlikely they will marry non-Catholics, it's not illegal and the government can't force conversion.
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Old 10-22-2004, 02:20 AM
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No, Catholics aren't punished for marrying outside of their religion. As long as one of the couple is Catholic, they are welcome to be married in the Church. And you can always get married by a JOP or something if you don't want the hassle.
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Correct, Kara. My mother is Roman Catholic and my father is Church of Scotland (Presbyterian) and they were married in the Church and he was warmly welcomed. Now, it was a given that any children born from the union (me) would be raised a Catholic. :)
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But what happens if you don't have Catholic kids? Does your marrige become null and void?
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But what happens if you don't have Catholic kids? Does your marrige become null and void?
I realize this is an old thread, but I just came across it and decided to add my two cents...

From my experience, the Catholic Church won't do anything to you if a couple doesn't raise their kids to be Catholic. My mom is Catholic and my dad is not, and while I'm sure having Catholic kids was part of the conditions that enabled them to be married in the church my siblings and I never went beyond being baptized, and the church didn't come after them or anything like that. Really, what can they do? Although my parents did get divorced eventually, so now their marriage really is null and void.
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Old 08-02-2005, 10:16 PM
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Well, the royals have connections with the Church.
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Old 08-03-2005, 03:04 AM
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I realize this is an old thread, but I just came across it and decided to add my two cents...

From my experience, the Catholic Church won't do anything to you if a couple doesn't raise their kids to be Catholic. My mom is Catholic and my dad is not, and while I'm sure having Catholic kids was part of the conditions that enabled them to be married in the church my siblings and I never went beyond being baptized, and the church didn't come after them or anything like that. Really, what can they do? Although my parents did get divorced eventually, so now their marriage really is null and void.
Actually, there is no such thing as "divorce" in the Catholic Church. Legally, you could get divorced, but in the eyes of the Church, unless you were granted an anullment (with pretty stringent guidelines and difficult to procure) or are widowed, you are still married. If one was married in Catholic rites once, even if they procured a legal divorce, they cannot marry in Catholic rites for a second time with a different spouse.

I actually am in the same situation. My mother is Roman Catholic and my father is Protestant. However, my brother and I were raised as Roman Catholic. My parents were actually married in a civil ceremony (which is recognized by the Church) and are planning to have a church wedding on their 25th Silver Anniversary. I guess the issue of what my brother and my religion would be was never a point of contention between my parents.

Actually, even if you are married in the Church, you aren't, per se, obligated or forced to have your children baptized and raised as Catholics, as delineate said. Both people don't even have to be Catholic to be married in the Church either, just one spouse is enough, but that spouse have to be baptized and confirmed as a Roman Catholic.

Anyway, to the issue of those gorgeous guys...Since I'm Roman Catholic and have no issue on the religious front, where do I sign up to be eligible to be princess? :p
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Thanks for the info. I never knew that!
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i know many people might disagree with me, but in my opinion, there are a lot of similarities between different religions. pope john paul II called jewish people the 'elder brothers' of catholics. and christians and catholics both follow the bible. the torah, koran, and bible all try to have its people be good.

as a nonreligious person(one of my parents is athiest and the other buddhist), I think that fundamentally, as long as the couple love eachother, religion is not a huge barrier. while its good to attached to your faith, there are many things to learn from 'other versions' of it.
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Dear moonlightrhapsody,

Just to clarify about the catholic annulment: it is not difficult per se. It is however a long and intensive procedure -sometimes costly-. A lot of people find the procedure cumbersome and lose patience or just refuse to go through with it. I know from experience: in my area it takes 3 years, after you are divorced in civil courts.
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.Both people don't even have to be Catholic to be married in the Church either, just one spouse is enough, but that spouse have to be baptized and confirmed as a Roman Catholic. :p
I'm not sure about that one. I always thought that both spouse had to be catholic. Maybe it is differrent depending where you live?
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i know many people might disagree with me, but in my opinion, there are a lot of similarities between different religions. pope john paul II called jewish people the 'elder brothers' of catholics. and christians and catholics both follow the bible. the torah, koran, and bible all try to have its people be good.

as a nonreligious person(one of my parents is athiest and the other buddhist), I think that fundamentally, as long as the couple love eachother, religion is not a huge barrier. while its good to attached to your faith, there are many things to learn from 'other versions' of it.
The Torah and the Old Testament are the same exact thing. Islam and Christianity both stem from Judiaism. But this is just an off topic thing.
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