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Old 11-20-2005, 04:56 AM
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Can i just say first of all CONGRATULATIONS TO PRINCE LOUIS AND TESSY!!!!!

While i don't agree with all the opinions in this thread - they've all been very interesting!!! I think that everyone's shocked (including myself) because PL is royal. If he were non-royal this wouldn't make any difference. The issue here is what we expect of royal's in the 21st century. PL is not the first royal to have an illegitimate baby and he won't be the last. But at least the Luxembourg royal family haven't covered up the pregnancy and kept it a secret.:)

I read one comment which suggested that GD H and MT have tried to perfect a certain image of their lives and family as being 'perfect' and i absolutely agree. An illegitimate child sort of (AND I DO MEAN SORT OF - AFTER ALL ILLEGITMACY IS NOT A BIG DEAL) spoils that image. It must be slightly embarrassing for them to have a very young teenage son, having a baby out of wedlock.

The problem for royals now is that they are expected to live and follow rules and morals which the vast majority of the population don't bother with anymore. Like not getting divorced, not having affairs outside of marriage and not having children outside of marriage. Also they are expected to be role models. But i don't think people still look up to royals in the same way that they used to. It's hard for them because they are expected to live up to a certain image of perfection, which few can achieve. We put them on pedistals and get angry or disappointed (or both) when they fall of. Give the guy a break, he is only 19!!! We cannot expect a man of that age to be anybodies role model!!!

Remember that PL has excellent connections and comes from an EXTREMELY wealthy family. So yes the baby will change his and Tessy's life (a baby is ALWAYS a big change in your life no matter what your status is in society), however they will have financial support and nannies etc to help them and make their lives easier. So life won't be that hard. It never is if you have money.

I doubt the baby will inherit unless the couple marry in the future - thus legitimizing it. I wonder though if the baby will have a title? Can someone tell me what does PL do? Where will the couple live?

While i am sure that GD H and MT are happy for their son, they must be disappointed that this happened. Being Catholic monarchs it must be embarrasing for them to have a son having an illegitimate baby. However i doubt that the baby was planned. This was an 'accident' (BUT A WONDERFUL ONE AT THAT) but these things happen and we shouldn't condemn the couple for what has happened. They have not committed a crime and are not harming themselves or anyone else.

As for being Catholic and the issue of birth control and non-marital sex. Lets face it most Catholics now use birth control and the vast majority of people in the western world, religious or not HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE!!!

Like i said remember this is not a tragedy, a baby is going to be born. GD H and MT are going to grandparents. This won't change PL and Tessy's life in the same way as say an 'ordinary' couple. So we shouldn't worry too much.
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Old 11-20-2005, 01:17 PM
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I don't think that anyone said this is a tragedy.....but Louis, fairly effectively, has ruined his young life. Instead of being able to do what he pleases and go where he wants, he'll have to worry about the baby first [and I am assuming that he is going to be a responsible young man and realize that it wasn't just his girlfriend involved in this, and help her out].
Babies are very wonderful and precious and all that, but not, IMO, when you're 19.
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Old 11-20-2005, 01:23 PM
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Any new informations about the furture papa?
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Old 11-20-2005, 01:49 PM
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I really don't see what all the fuss is about! So he and his girlfriend are going to be parents while still in their teens, it's isn't like his life will be changed too much. Most 19 year old men would have to get a jub or even marry their girlfriend. In Louis' case he will have his family's money to help him, so he won't have to quit school or stay home to look after the baby - the baby will have a nanny.

I haven't read about his girlfriend so I don't know who she is or what kind of family she comes from - I admit that I don't even know her name! But, I'm sure the GD family will provide for the child and the lives of the parents will be as easier than they would be for any other young couple.
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Old 11-20-2005, 05:52 PM
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I don't think that anyone said this is a tragedy.....but Louis, fairly effectively, has ruined his young life. Instead of being able to do what he pleases and go where he wants, he'll have to worry about the baby first [and I am assuming that he is going to be a responsible young man and realize that it wasn't just his girlfriend involved in this, and help her out].
Babies are very wonderful and precious and all that, but not, IMO, when you're 19.
My best friend had her first child when she was 19 and she definitely hasn't ruined her life. It changed in ways that were surprising, but she doesn't feel she's caught up in a terrible tragedy. So - no generalisations, please! Having a child at the age of 19 will always be demanding, but it doesn't necessarily mean the person is doomed forever!
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Old 11-20-2005, 06:54 PM
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My best friend had her first child when she was 19 and she definitely hasn't ruined her life. It changed in ways that were surprising, but she doesn't feel she's caught up in a terrible tragedy. So - no generalisations, please! Having a child at the age of 19 will always be demanding, but it doesn't necessarily mean the person is doomed forever!
I apologize for the generalization, but that's my opinion- that children [in effect] shouldn't be having children. And it's not changing anytime soon. Sorry. :o
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:06 PM
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I apologize for the generalization, but that's my opinion- that children [in effect] shouldn't be having children. And it's not changing anytime soon. Sorry. :o
Yeah, but it's done now, so the couple and their families will just have to make the best of it. Yes, children shouldn't be having children, but it won't ruin their lives or destroy their futures in this case.
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:14 PM
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Ok. We all have to understand that depending on when and where you grew up, you will have a different opinion about this whole thing.
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:22 PM
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My best friend had her first child when she was 19 and she definitely hasn't ruined her life. It changed in ways that were surprising, but she doesn't feel she's caught up in a terrible tragedy. So - no generalisations, please! Having a child at the age of 19 will always be demanding, but it doesn't necessarily mean the person is doomed forever!
I agree with you, Smilla.
Maybe Louis can't do now all the things he could do without a baby, but ... that's Life! He made the baby, so he was grown enough to know what could happend. Or was he stupid and still thought tha babies came from Paris?... I don't think so.
Nowadays, people just talk about career, career and career. A baby is seeing as the worst thing in the world.
I think a baby gives great feelings of happiness, joy and usefulness to many parents, and the age (19, 30 or 40 years old) is just an irrelevant thing. What matters is if parents have enough money to raise their children, and this case they have (a LOT!) of money. That's why the only thing I can say is "Congratulations to the future parents!" and my best wishes for the new baby.
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Old 11-22-2005, 08:22 AM
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is there any pictures of the two parents to be?
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Old 11-22-2005, 06:32 PM
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There is one link earlier on in the thread. That is the only pic of Tessy I really know of. There are many of Louis, though.
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Old 11-22-2005, 07:52 PM
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is there any pictures of the two parents to be?
This is the only pic that I can find of Tessy.
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...2&d=1127380104
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Old 11-23-2005, 09:47 AM
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A recent picture from Prince Louis I found on worldroots.com. He's the one who's making grandparents of Grand Duke Henri and Grand Duchess Maria Teresa.

I really hope that we will see many pictures of the young parents and the whole family in March 2006.:)
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:44 PM
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Drimal, where on worldroots did you find that? I haven't seen any recent pics on that site.
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:46 AM
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I think Tessy is pretty, shame we don't get any new pics of her.:( Doesn't she go out in public or does the media avoid taking pics of her for some reason?
Does anyone think that they'll get married at all?
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:23 AM
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She doesn´t go with Louis....but......who knows.....GD Henri said in his Christmas speech that the pregancy of Tessy was a rumor......I think that he was protecting his son..but, how long?
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:28 AM
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"The Grand Duchess and myself are deeply offended by bad rumours going round about our family and which are not true. If we have to communicate something as a family we are doing it, as we proved with our son Louis lately." (<--drimal's translation of the speech in the H&MT thread)

I don't think he meant that the pregnancy was a rumor, but more that they are sticking together as a family.
And if she is truly preggers, anyone know when she's due?
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:13 AM
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He didn't mean that the pregnancy was a rumor.....that was confirmed by the Palace as the truth, and she is due in March of 2006 IIRC.
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he meant that anything said, rumors or otherwise, should it be true, would be addressed directly by the palace.
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Sorry people...this is a misunderstood...........sorry!
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