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Old 01-23-2017, 05:30 AM
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We don't know what's actually written in the 2009 arrêté grand-ducal granting Tessy's title. Does it include stipulations on divorce like the 1995, 2004, and 2012 decrees?

GD Henri's press release isn't enough to confirm Tessy was created a princess in her own right. Even if he did grant her the title without stipulations, can't Henri simply issue another arrêté grand-ducal revoking it?
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Old 01-23-2017, 06:04 AM
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We don't know what's actually written in the 2009 arrêté grand-ducal granting Tessy's title. Does it include stipulations on divorce like the 1995, 2004, and 2012 decrees?

GD Henri's press release isn't enough to confirm Tessy was created a princess in her own right. Even if he did grant her the title without stipulations, can't Henri simply issue another arrêté grand-ducal revoking it?
yes but the reality is that we don't know but what we know is that divorce for her doesn't mean that it's 100% confirmed that she will lose her title one that bases but what arrêté grand-ducal does say .
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:51 AM
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That is really something I can't understand. Catholic culture would be nothing if there had been no Incarnation of God into the Christ, no death on the Cross, no Resurrection of Jesus Christ, no Gospels reporting his life and his teachings. If there had been no God and no Christ to adore for His humility, all the pomp and the liturgy, all the magnificent churches, all the hymns, nothing would have ever existed. Christian faith is an incarnated one, not one more religious practice or mystery with no consequences for the daily and common life. That is why I am a catholic. I like liturgy and hymns, but I like them for they make me closer to God, in which I believe.
THANK YOU. You nailed it Sancia.

I am Catholic precisely because of those the points you mention which for me at least are the source of life itself.

If one simply like incense and trappings you can find them anywhere.

Duc, if it's true that 90% of Catholics in Western Europe are indifferent to their Faith, then they have no right to complain about the collapse of of their culture which is taking place as we speak. The immigrants flooding into to replace the empty Catholic churches with mosques are demonstrating that they are NOT indifferent about their beliefs. They do indeed care.

Good for them.
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:07 AM
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We don't know what's actually written in the 2009 arrêté grand-ducal granting Tessy's title. Does it include stipulations on divorce like the 1995, 2004, and 2012 decrees?

GD Henri's press release isn't enough to confirm Tessy was created a princess in her own right. Even if he did grant her the title without stipulations, can't Henri simply issue another arrêté grand-ducal revoking it?
Was it actually a Grand-Ducal Decree? Such decrees are legislation and should be public via Legilux. When it was just a wish of the Grand-Duke, who -after all- organizes his House, then is a courtesy title as wedded wife to a titled gentleman, as is the tradition and social custom. I will try to search Legilux.
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Old 01-24-2017, 03:29 AM
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After re-reading Luxarazzi's post, such a decree hasn't been found (at least online) and apparently the 2012 House Law doesn't have a countersignature so that's also not a decree? I briefly checked Legilux last night and the most recent arrêté grand-ducal was about the GDF's last name in 2006.

Luxembourg's titles are inconsistent and if there's no decree about Tessy's title, then you're right that her title is simply a courtesy.
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Old 01-24-2017, 06:28 AM
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Does anyone know if Princess Tessy has deactivated her instagram account?
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I think she is no longer on instagram.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:05 AM
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Prince Louis and Princess Tessy

If this has already been posted elsewhere, apologies and feel free to relocate.

This is sad. They were so young - only 20 and 21, the Prince admitted to feeling nervous on the day. Ten years later, the relationship is over .....


Princess Tessy of Luxembourg is divorcing Prince Louis | Daily Mail Online
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Prince Louis and Princess Tessy of Luxembourg are granted a 'quickie' divorce in London because of his unreasonable behaviour

Prince Louis and Princess Tessy of Luxembourg divorce | Daily Mail Online
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Is "unreasonable behavior" a standard divorce term or is something else going on?
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:33 AM
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Luxarazzi's post says the term is fairly standard:
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Details on the "unreasonable behaviour" were not given though it's worth noting that this is a fairly standard term that encompasses truly egregious behaviour to what might otherwise be considered minor irritations that lead to ongoing marital difficulties.
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:43 AM
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Well, call me crazy but the often heard "irreconcilable differences" is to me a lot more neutral; this "unreasonable behaviour" seems to lay the blame for the divorce clearly on his side...
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:58 AM
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"Unreasonable behaviour?""

Seriously? Was there no way to divorce with less damaging and inflammatory wording than something that makes Louis sound crazy?

No wonder the gushing tweets on Instagram from Tessy.
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UK divorce application doesn’t have another neutral reason. Tessy had 5 options:
  • adultery
  • unreasonable behavior
  • desertion
  • you lived apart for more than 2 years
  • you lived apart for more than 5 years
https://www.gov.uk/divorce/grounds-for-divorce

There’s a minimum 6 week waiting period to apply for decree absolute after the date of decree nisi.
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Why did they divorce in UK and not in Luxembourg?
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:11 PM
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UK divorce application doesn’t have another neutral reason. Tessy had 5 options:
  • adultery
  • unreasonable behavior
  • desertion
  • you lived apart for more than 2 years
  • you lived apart for more than 5 years
https://www.gov.uk/divorce/grounds-for-divorce

There’s a minimum 6 week waiting period to apply for decree absolute after the date of decree nisi.

Ok thanks. I suppose it was a choice of the lesser of five evils.

Very sad to see the marriage end.
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What is Tessy's title now that they're divorced?
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"Unreasonable behaviour?""

Seriously? Was there no way to divorce with less damaging and inflammatory wording than something that makes Louis sound crazy?

No wonder the gushing tweets on Instagram from Tessy.

The examples of "unreasonable behaviour" given in the UK official site are not neutral at all. Here is what the site says:

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Your husband or wife has behaved in such a way that you cannot reasonably be expected to live with them.
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  • verbal abuse, such as insults or threats
  • drunkenness or drug-taking
  • refusing to pay for housekeeping
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:39 PM
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What is Tessy's title now that they're divorced?
She's still HRH Princess Tessy on the Grand Ducal Court website,but that may not have been updated yet.

La Princesse Tessy - Cour Grand-Ducale de Luxembourg - Famille grand-ducale
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I've thought all along the way she's been saying things it was her way of indicating he's (his actions) the reason for the divorce.


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