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Old 05-24-2010, 05:39 PM
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Okay this Nina lady needs to be demoted to housecleaning because my little brother can release better statements than she does! She should get it right the first time. This is going in cirlcles.
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:17 PM
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This is very confusing! On SVT:s site it says that the descission is made that the King will escort Victoria down the aile - but at expressen it says that they are still discussing it Can they quote Nina Eldh from her interview in tv4 sunday morning? - there she was a guest and said that discussions where taking place and that nothing was descided...

Anyway i think that as soon as the wedding is over they should fire her - she is definatly not good at her job
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:00 PM
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In reading the Google Translation of the announcement, further down the page there is a reference that the priests want to refuse Victoria when she arrives at the altar!

I cannot believe the fuss that is being made over this! Is it a LAW that brides cannot be escorted by the fathers? If it is a tradition does this mean NO ONE is allowed to do differently? CP V is a young woman who obviously adores her father. Is she the ONLY woman in Sweden who has ever made this decision?
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:53 PM
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In reading the Google Translation of the announcement, further down the page there is a reference that the priests want to refuse Victoria when she arrives at the altar!

I cannot believe the fuss that is being made over this! Is it a LAW that brides cannot be escorted by the fathers? If it is a tradition does this mean NO ONE is allowed to do differently? CP V is a young woman who obviously adores her father. Is she the ONLY woman in Sweden who has ever made this decision?
I seriously hope that it not true I don't think they would dare to refuse her.

To me this debate is silly and while the archbishop can support tradition this is not his decision.

Tradition or not, every young girl dreams about their big day and what it will be like. Princess or not, Victoria has worked hard for her country for years and continues to do so and if the people begrudge her this one happiness I think it is disgraceful.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:45 PM
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Is it me, or does this sound like severe media spin? Not being in Sweden and knowing very little of Swedish culture and traditions, but this whole ruckus on her father walking her down the aisle sounds like the Royal Family wanting to bring some kind of "suspense" to the whole day.

It's pretty clear the whole day will be filled with love, joy and romance, but now it sounds like they want to spice things up by making a mountain out of a molehill regarding the entrance procession and the Crown Princess and the King.

If, indeed, this is a contentious issue, perhaps the Church should see it in the manner that this is the first future Swedish regent Queen in a) modern times who is b) marrying for love and c) holds a close relationship with her Regent Father, the King of Sweden. It has nothing to do with ownership, but rather the strong bond between a father and his daughter.

I am from an Italian heritage, and in my parents' village, the bride and groom arrive at the church and walk down the aisle together. When my mother and father were married, it was in Australia, and my mother walked down the aisle with my grandfather. Traditions are what you make them.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:18 PM
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I'm glad to hear CP Victoria will be given away by her father, as to her wishes! Maybe she'll start a new trend in Sweden.
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Old 05-24-2010, 11:35 PM
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Does anybody know where we might purchase official wedding souvenirs online?
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:00 AM
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The church (or at least one of the priest that will be marrying them) must have brought the issue public in hopes that public opinion and pressure will force them to change their minds, and it seems to be working since court seems to have back tracked saying it hasn't be decided yet. The issues isn't just confined to the Swedish press, so it may make them want to rethink the issue.
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Well Expressen is saying the wish hasn't been granted. Svenskdam is congratulating Victoria on getting her wish. Kind of confusing...
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This issue has turned into a powerplay. The swedish church has lost much of its influence since the separation of church and state. They are finally in an important position again thanks to the wedding and are capitalizing on it. I have had several occassions to deal with the church in the last year and to assume they are suddenly concerned about the "proper" way to do a ceremony rings very hollow. A year ago in my former home town there was a six weeks waiting period in order to conduct a funeral. Six weeks to wait to bury a family member is simply cruel but the church said they were very backlogged and could not speed it up. To assign priests from other parishes to help out or to conduct more funerals in a day was not an option. So the church's sudden concern about following protocol and tradition sounds insincere.
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How awful grevinnan! You are right priests should look more in the essence of things, not to mention that ,when it comes to Victoria, she is marrying in free will the one she trully wants and not her family's choice, so I gather that in essence , she is doing what the Church wants
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I'm glad to hear CP Victoria will be given away by her father, as to her wishes! Maybe she'll start a new trend in Sweden.
That's the very thing the priests are afraid of, Victoria starting a new trend IMO and that's why they have been fighting about it so hard.
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In Finland, if you don't want to do as the priests and church say, you can always get married elsewhere! I don't see why Victoria should have her own way if all the other brides don't.. never mind she is the crownprincess, in this matter.
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In Finland, if you don't want to do as the priests and church say, you can always get married elsewhere! I don't see why Victoria should have her own way if all the other brides don't.. never mind she is the crownprincess, in this matter.

She should have her own way because no matter what all other brides so this is her and Daniel's day and she should have her perfect wedding. And if that means having her father, who she loves and respects, escorting her then thats the way it is. If other brides wanted to walk up the aisle with their father they should be allowed too.
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A year ago in my former home town there was a six weeks waiting period in order to conduct a funeral. Six weeks to wait to bury a family member is simply cruel but the church said they were very backlogged and could not speed it up. To assign priests from other parishes to help out or to conduct more funerals in a day was not an option. So the church's sudden concern about following protocol and tradition sounds insincere.
That's disgusting!! And they simply get away with that? Doesn't the law require them to conduct the funeral within a certain priod of time?
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:39 AM
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Whatever the outcome of this is, I feel sorry for CP V. Planning a wedding is stressful enough but the Swedish Lutheran Church is making this an ordeal for her. Her whole life has been dedicated to Sweden and it's people and the church is making a circus out of her wedding. I hope that as the wedding day gets closer all parties involved will realise that in the end this is a wedding between two people who love each other very much.
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the UK is one of the 25 countries that will broadcast this wedding
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In Finland, if you don't want to do as the priests and church say, you can always get married elsewhere! I don't see why Victoria should have her own way if all the other brides don't.. never mind she is the crownprincess, in this matter.
So the couple has to do what the priest says or else? This is bulll. Nobody, not a priest or archbishop, would be telling me what to do. I think it's right for Victoria to have what she wants. She has to marry in Sweden, so suggesting she should do it elsewhere is wrong. Victoria works way too hard for the country. Give her some leeway.
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Hello has a new page about the wedding:
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So the couple has to do what the priest says or else? This is bulll. Nobody, not a priest or archbishop, would be telling me what to do. I think it's right for Victoria to have what she wants. She has to marry in Sweden, so suggesting she should do it elsewhere is wrong. Victoria works way too hard for the country. Give her some leeway.
Really? Then try to marry in a catholic wedding!
But really if all the brides have to follow the tradition why not her too?
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Really? Then try to marry in a catholic wedding!
But really if all the brides have to follow the tradition why not her too?
Well the good thing is I'm Christian and not catholic. But the question is "Do they all have to follow this tradition?" Like I said in a earlier post, Victoria summed it up well when she said

"- We have tried to seek an alliance between history and contemporary wedding day while still should feel personal, "says the Crown Princess
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