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Old 05-28-2009, 07:03 AM
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Making a big effort, one could maybe try to find some logic in CP Victoria’s decision to go on the trip to Greenland and stay away until June 1 – though the logic does escape me.
But there’s no logic whatsoever in even spending the eve of her husband-to-be’s surgery not with him, but in Denmark at an uttely unimportant private birthday party for Crown Prince Frederik.
PR chief Nina Eldh’s comment that both the trip and the surgery were scheduled like this in advance makes CP Victoria’s priorities here even more inexplicable to me.

I hope that no further complications will arise for Daniel Westling and that he will recover well, which usually takes about two months. Unfortunately, it’s completely wrong that a kidney transplant and the larger picture of kidney disease are "no big deal anymore".

I also hope that the Royal Court will find a smart way to deal with the issue.
Daniel Westling’s health will continue to be a matter of concern for the rest of their lives, and the Bernadotte PR department has shown very little expertise in dealing with matters and working professionally ever since Nina Eldh took over. Regarding an issue as sensitive as this one, they need to apply both transparency and a good image-supporting spin.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:32 AM
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This hits close to home for me....My father is 11 months post heart transplant.

Daniel will be on life-long medication. While it is true that transplanted organs do not have the life span of the organs we were born with, they CAN last for many a decades-esp. Kidneys. Having said that, IF Daniel needs another kidney transplant in the future-it should come as a shock to no one.

The Royal court is in a catch-22 situation as far as I can tell. I am not this couple's biggest fan but Victoria did the right thing by being away. The prospect of no royal visitors to the hospital prevents the venue from being a media circus. We must remember that Daniel is not the only patient there-infact he probably is not the only one recovering from a kidney transplant right now at the same hospital. So all these patients need to allowed to recover in peace.

Since they have said that this is something he has suffered from a long time, the court needs to be open to the public about the entire history. Sweden and Swedes have a right to know if their future soverign (Victoria's child) might have the possibility of this health problem. Unfortunately for Mr. Westling, there can be no privacy in this matter. There needs to be full disclosure and the faster the better.
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Old 05-28-2009, 09:58 AM
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Oh I hope Daniel gets better soon. It is unfortunate that Victoria is in Greenland at the time Daniel has his operation. I would have thought she would have wanted to be with him.
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:36 AM
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Could they not have had the surgery a bit earlier while Victoria was still around and then announced it while she was on this trip? This way she could have been there for him - and could have hopefully slipped in and out of the hospital quietly without any attention drawn to her so the hospital patients and staff wouldn't be disturbed. Then - when she was on the trip and the announcement was made - some peacefulness could have been maintained at the hospital and she wouldn't get so much negative press for being an unsupportive fiance.
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:58 AM
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I just heard about this in the news. I hope Daniel will recover soon. And his father too of course.
I cannot really understand that Victoria didn't stay with Daniel.
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Old 05-28-2009, 11:05 AM
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Could they not have had the surgery a bit earlier while Victoria was still around and then announced it while she was on this trip? This way she could have been there for him - and could have hopefully slipped in and out of the hospital quietly without any attention drawn to her so the hospital patients and staff wouldn't be disturbed. Then - when she was on the trip and the announcement was made - some peacefulness could have been maintained at the hospital and she wouldn't get so much negative press for being an unsupportive fiance.
Yes it could have been so easy ...

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Boris PR chief Nina Eldh’s comment that both the trip and the surgery were scheduled like this in advance makes CP Victoria’s priorities here even more inexplicable to me.
... and they even confirm this in a statement what is the Swedish Court thinking. But hey, it's Nina Eldh :rolleyes2: so no chance this matter could have been handled in a better way. As usual people are more confused than before after one of her odd explanations.
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Old 05-28-2009, 11:38 AM
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I guess it would be safe to assume that Daniel as a prince might choose to be the patron of some organization dealing with kidney and liver diseases and transplant patients and helping to promote research and medical development in that area. That is, if there is suitable organization lacking a patron at that time. I would love to see him giving a public face to these types of diseases.

What I do wonder is why the operation was done now? Did Daniel have a serious kidney failure? I'm sure he would have had access to top notch medical care even before the engagement so that can't be the reason. I'd also love to know the King and Queen's reaction and opinion on this. Was this something that postponed the engagement?
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Old 05-28-2009, 11:46 AM
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The Royal court is in a catch-22 situation as far as I can tell. I am not this couple's biggest fan but Victoria did the right thing by being away. The prospect of no royal visitors to the hospital prevents the venue from being a media circus. We must remember that Daniel is not the only patient there-infact he probably is not the only one recovering from a kidney transplant right now at the same hospital. So all these patients need to allowed to recover in peace.
As it seems the room of Daniel and father Olle is a bit "off"...so that they (and patients in the regular ward) can have privacy and he came in via the backdoor. Don´t see, why fiancée couldn´t have done the same.
That the Swedish press found out, isn´t very surprising...as some patients or staff would always "twitter"...but they aren´t of the kind, which would dress up as doc or nurse to catch a glimpse of the patient.

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What I do wonder is why the operation was done now?
Maybe the (his) idea was indeed to wait with the engagement until a decision would be made.
If you compare the pix from Frederik´s birthday in early June and the ones of the engagement, the diference is evident. His condition had worsened.
Medication and nutrition can keep things in balance for a while, but somewhen a point of no return would come and then you have to go for dialysis or transplantation.
Unfortunately there is no medication, which is really working against renal failure...
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News Summary Royalblog.nl: Daniel Westling undergoes kidney transplant
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You have to give Kudos to everyone for keeping this under wraps. A man who has dated the CROWN PRINCESS for over 7 years has such a serious condition and no one is the wiser. Compare this to the United Kingdom, where the only thing we don't know about Kate Middelton is how many bowel movements she has in a day. And she isn't even a fiancee...
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That the Swedish press found out, isn´t very surprising...as some patients or staff would always "twitter"...but they aren´t of the kind, which would dress up as doc or nurse to catch a glimpse of the patient....
Perhaps not the Swedish press, if you think they hold to a higher standard of integrity. But I wouldn't give you tuppence for the rest the the paparazzi.

This is BIG new, not a broken bone, but something that impacts on his life forever, and by extention, Victorias. What price a photo of Daniel in his hospital bed wired up to machines?, even more with Victoria holding his hand,

You have to hand it the the RF to be able to fly this right under the radar. It must have been hard for Victoria to not be there but, whenever one of the younger royals tries to act "normal" they tend to get really bad press because they are not normal everyday folk! Damned if the do, damned if they don't.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:56 PM
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But I wouldn't give you tuppence for the rest the the paparazzi.
AFAIK 99.99% of all paparazzi pix of the Swedish Royals in Sweden got done by Swedish paparazzis.
Germany is an other big market for news on the Swedish Royals, but they wouldn´t do such things either.
And they really awful paprazzis, namely the british and us american ones don´t care for the Swedish Royals.
Believe me...such low-taste maneuvers wouldn´t happen in Sweden...

I am doubting anyone would have "damned" Victoria for being on her fiancé´s side. If Madeleine and CP get criticised for "normal" behaviour, because "normal" means hanging out with brats in their case.

And as I´ve said before...I´ve published the news on the Greenland trip here directly from kronprinsparret.dk and that was 2 weeks ago. Until then not many knew about the trip.
They could have changed this trip to one of Haakon and Frederik or Frederik and Mary...and we would have never ever known, she was scheduled as well.
Then someone could have spread rumours on a trip of Victoria&Daniel abroad and in the meanwhile the surgery would have started.

Maybe I would have more understanding, if this trip to Greenland would be really important, but IMO it´s a just a repeat from last year, just telling the things, we all know (climate change)...not changing the climate positively (but actually adding to pollution)
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In the end we will never know what was decided privately between CP Victoria and Daniel. We don't have all the inside conversations. It is not as if she went on holiday. Only Daniel & Victoria know why she was not there.
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I really do not think that it was wise for Victoria to leave. I would not care if my husband told me to leave - I would NOT leave. I would never let my love one go though this without me by their side. NOT NICE at all to leave him!!!! JMO
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Expressen - Westlings operation lockar donatorer
Daniel Westling´s kidney transplantation attracts new donors, several hundred new donors registered on Thursday.
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the karolinska hospital is one of the best (if not the best) in the world. i'm sure victoria knew that everything would be fine.

it is however strange that it all happened now. it's pretty serious stuff that the future prince consort has a transplant. i guess that's why they decided that victoria should be away, it's much easier to handle such a situation without the paparazzi around. however, they announced the illness is not hereditary in the royal court announcement.

how sweet that daniel's father offered his kidney... i guess there's nothing that can get on the way of the love of a parent!
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Daniels father is an angel. I hope that father and son will recover soon and never have problems with their kidneys anymore.

For the discussion of the role of Victoria in this case: I think that the trip to Greenland has been planned a long time ago. Frederik and Haakon are also busy and sometimes it is hard to have time at the same time. IMO Victorias feelings were with Daniel at the time the surgery happened and Daniel has not felt alone.
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Daniel looks so healthy and fit I would have never thought he has a serious health problem.
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:17 PM
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I wondered why we haven't seen him in public for awhile. Wasn't the last time on Victoria Day? Hope he and his father get well quickly!!
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Has anyone considered the following: That the surgery was postponed, even slightly?

From what I know of transplants, if the donor or the recipient have even the slightest hint of a cold, fever or infection, the suregery is postponed until both are given a complete and total clean bill of health.

Say that the surgery was scheduled a week earlier and they had to postpone it due to one of these reasons, and orginally Victoria would have been there?

And frankly, if she were there, I can only imagine the media circus that it would have been. So maybe it is better. Nonetheless I would never have left my husband.. But then again I am a mere mortal!
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