Daniel's Future: Discussion (his role, title, orders, pressure etc.)

[Madame Royale]

HKH is the exact equivilant of HRH.

For example...

Hennes Kungliga Höghet - Swedish
&
Hendes Kongelig Højhed - Danish

I'm not sure of the Norwegian translation, but I imagine it's something quite similar.

 

[CrownPrincessJava]

HKH is the exact equivilant of HRH.

For example...

Hennes Kungliga Höghet - Swedish
&
Hendes Kongelig Højhed - Danish

I'm not sure of the Norwegian translation, but I imagine it's something quite similar.

Ahhh, thanks for that Madame Royale I am glad he will be receiving the title of HRH Prince of Sweden. However, from the photos of the both of them together, I don't think he would have cared for any of the titles...he just wants to spend the rest of his life with Crown Princess Victoria He wants to be there supporting her in a role she takes incredibly seriously. They are a unit, and you can visibly see that.

I admire his love and loyality to the Crown Princess and also his loyality to the Crown.

 

[Karisma]

Ahhh, thanks for that Madame Royale I am glad he will be receiving the title of HRH Prince of Sweden. However, from the photos of the both of them together, I don't think he would have cared for any of the titles...he just wants to spend the rest of his life with Crown Princess Victoria He wants to be there supporting her in a role she takes incredibly seriously. They are a unit, and you can visibly see that.

I admire his love and loyality to the Crown Princess and also his loyality to the Crown.

HKH is the exact equivilant of HRH.

For example...

Hennes Kungliga Höghet - Swedish
&
Hendes Kongelig Højhed - Danish

I'm not sure of the Norwegian translation, but I imagine it's something quite similar.

Hennes Kongelige Høyhet - Norwegian

 

[SwedQueen]

I'm delighted for him and that he got HRH as a title.
I think he is charming young man.

 

[HRHofNothing]

I am a bit confused now. Isn't there a tradition in Sweden to style married Princesses of the blood royal as Princess X, Mrs. X?

So how will Victoria be styled Crown Princess Victoria, Mrs. Westling if Daniel is legally no longer Mr. Westling? Unless they style her Crown Princess Victoria, Princess Daniel like they do in the Uk?

 

[grevinnan]

I am a bit confused now. Isn't there a tradition in Sweden to style married Princesses of the blood royal as Princess X, Mrs. X?

So how will Victoria be styled Crown Princess Victoria, Mrs. Westling if Daniel is legally no longer Mr. Westling? Unless they style her Crown Princess Victoria, Princess Daniel like they do in the Uk?

The only Princess titled as such is Princess Christina. She was in a unique situation at the time of her marriage and remained very involved as a royal person as there we no other royal women to help with the representation. She was recognized for all her work and probably also a delayed wedding in order to be available as the highest ranking swedish royal female.

Crownprincess Victoria will not become Mrs Westling. Daniel will become Prince of Sweden instead.

 

[Soli Deo Gloria]

OK, this is not about Daniels futute, but about his (familys) past. Björn Engström has done some research on Daniels family and found out that Daniels family got ansestors named Svinhufvud - that´s an old noble family of Sweden
Google Översätt

 

[LadyFinn]

OK, this is not about Daniels futute, but about his (familys) past. Björn Engström has done some research on Daniels family and found out that Daniels family got ansestors named Svinhufvud - that´s an old noble family of Sweden
Google Översätt

About the new book of Daniel:
Daniel descended from aristocracy: new book - The Local

 

[Harald]

OK, this is not about Daniels futute, but about his (familys) past. Björn Engström has done some research on Daniels family and found out that Daniels family got ansestors named Svinhufvud - that´s an old noble family of Sweden
Google Översätt

If one really wants to get know one's ancestors, marry a princess and all will be dug up.

This is, however, not too surprising since countless commoners have nobles and/or royals among their ancestors.

 

[LadyFinn]

Seven out of 10 Swedes believe that Daniel Westling will do a 'good job' as a prince of Sweden.
Swedes think Daniel will do good job: poll - The Local

Daniel Westling leaves the board of luxury home project Brasil Development. In conjunction with Daniel Westling marries Crown Princess Victoria, he will have left all directorships.
Westling lämnar Paulssons lyxhusprojekt i Brasilien - Ekonomi - Sydsvenskan

Johan T Lindwall about Daniel:
Johan T Lindwall: Daniel kommer att klara sig med bravur - Expressen
Google Translator

 

[CPV_Rules]

Nice article in the Local (although the comments are pretty brutal).

I like the last paragraph:

quote

"Engström had comforting words for Westling’s new in-laws: Daniel’s family has a high moral standing:

“If you look at his ancestors as a whole, they’re an unusually honest family. There are very few criminal convictions."

Distant political connections aside, that's a nice thing to know!

 

[LadyFinn]

Daniel Westling gets a wife, and he also gets a "boss". In the future, it is Crown Princess Victoria, who gives him pay - even though Daniel retains ownership of several companies. In recent years, Daniel declared a monthly income of approximately SEK 40 000 (over 4000 euros).
How much he earns in the future will be determined by his future wife. Despite the fact that Daniel now becomes Prince he may not have his own budget by the king. Instead, Victoria shares her appanage with Daniel.
Daniels lön bestäms av - Victoria - Bröllopet - Allt om kronprinsessan Victorias och Daniels bröllop | Expressen
Google Translator

 

[Lumutqueen]

So he becomes a Kept Man. How interesting.

 

[LadyFinn]

But as long as he retains ownership of several companies, he will still get annuities from the companies.

 

[AshleyAthena]

It sounds odd at first, but I thought about it and it makes sense-does Victoria's appendage go up after the wedding? I would assume it would to pay for two people, and that the reason is that they're a couple, a family, so all the money would go into one household anyway. I just hate that they're making it seem like he's less of a man, when the same thing happens when a woman marries a prince or crown prince and no one says anything.

 

[SwedQueen]

I wouldn't take articles from Aftonbladet or Expressen seriously. Nobody in Sweden do that. They love to speculate and they will try their best to create drama just in time for the wedding as well as after it.

Aftonbladet is a socialist paper who does not approve of the Swedish monarchy.

 

[LadyFinn]

About Daniel´s "prince school":
Så ska Ockelbosonen bli fullfjädrad prins - DN.se
Google Translator

 

[Lola]

I wouldn't take articles from Aftonbladet or Expressen seriously. Nobody in Sweden do that. They love to speculate and they will try their best to create drama just in time for the wedding as well as after it.

Aftonbladet is a socialist paper who does not approve of the Swedish monarchy.

In the past 1-2 years it was wiser to believe Expressen and Aftonbladet than the court

 

[LadyFinn]

The Swedish Royal Court presented today Daniel Westling’s official coat of arms and his monogram:
Herr Daniel Westlings vapensköld och monogram offentliggörs - Sveriges Kungahus
Coat of arms
Monogram

 

[CasiraghiTrio]

The only Princess titled as such is Princess Christina. She was in a unique situation at the time of her marriage and remained very involved as a royal person as there we no other royal women to help with the representation. She was recognized for all her work and probably also a delayed wedding in order to be available as the highest ranking swedish royal female.

Crownprincess Victoria will not become Mrs Westling. Daniel will become Prince of Sweden instead.

So does this mean that together they will be HKH Kronprinsessan and Prins Daniel of Sweden" (or TRH Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel of Sweden)... and w/o names, more formally, The Crown Princess and Prince of Sweden? I think Daniel is only Prince Daniel and not Crown Prince, or kronprins Daniel, right?

 

[Karisma]

Titles

So does this mean that together they will be HKH Kronprinsessan and Prins Daniel of Sweden" (or TRH Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel of Sweden)... and w/o names, more formally, The Crown Princess and Prince of Sweden? I think Daniel is only Prince Daniel and not Crown Prince, or kronprins Daniel, right?

At the wedding Daniel will be HRH Prins Daniel of Sweden, Duke of Västergötland as Victoria, HRH The Crown Princess, already are the Duchess of Västergötland. In the future when Victoria will be Sweden's Head of State, a rouling Queen, then will Daniel have the title HRH The Prince Consort, Daniel of Sweden. (See Denmark for ex).

 

[CasiraghiTrio]

^Yeah, that makes sense. It's like it was for Prince Henrik. Only Prince Henrik was from an aristocratic family and a strong diplomatic background. In light of the huge change for Daniel, I guess it was good for him and Victoria to have a long "courtship," if I can be forgiven for using this outmoded expression. I doubt they consider their relationship at all like a courtship. However, I think the longtime relationship and even the long engagement has given him time to feel his way into the system. I mean, it's a heady change from being a private citizen, owning his own business, and then being a public figure, royal consort, etc. Thanks for the answer to my question.

 

[Charlotte_Aster]

The Royal Court announced Daniel's new coat of arms and monogram.
Mr Daniel Westling's coat of arms and monogram are unveiled - Sveriges Kungahus [NS4 version]

 

[Karisma]

Mr Daniel Westling and modern times.

^Yeah, that makes sense. It's like it was for Prince Henrik. Only Prince Henrik was from an aristocratic family and a strong diplomatic background. In light of the huge change for Daniel, I guess it was good for him and Victoria to have a long "courtship," if I can be forgiven for using this outmoded expression. I doubt they consider their relationship at all like a courtship. However, I think the longtime relationship and even the long engagement has given him time to feel his way into the system. I mean, it's a heady change from being a private citizen, owning his own business, and then being a public figure, royal consort, etc. Thanks for the answer to my question.

I do like what You are writing. And that You have a line saying "Dare to be different".

As far as I understand it is unclear whether knighthood now allow themselves to be defined only by custom. At least not in Sweden, allegedly the world's most egalitarian countries. Is there now any more legal or legal definition of whether a person is a gentleman or not? My guess is that if you saddle ointroducerad included in the list of ointroducerad nobility and aristocracy introduced if it is in the saddle with the calendar.

About the right to ennoble this ceased in Sweden according to the conventional way of looking at things, the end of 1974/1975. Gustav V could explained the earlier Prince Lennart Bernadotte Count as if he had so wished.

Thus, the nobility and the commoners now, given that I understood correctly, only a matter of custom. I may be wrong, because the nobility were abolished priviligier last couple of years ago and it is therefore reasonable in some way joined to make a difference in the nobility and commoners.

If I'm trying to call me Earl, I do not hindered by anything other than that the environment will find that he makes me ridiculous? Is the title of Count legally defined? Is there some kind of "protection of title '? In Sweden there are names protected titles, eg physicians. But I do not think you can not be called Duke if you want.

Sweden's King has obviously, by the Parliamentary state, the right to give Daniel Westling his title HRH Prince Daniel, Duke of Västergötland. "For Sweden in time" i Carl XVI Gustafs motto ". It is well that modern man has the same status and title as Mette-Marit of Norway and Alexandra of Denmark? I do not know that Daniel did something that would disqualify him in compared with spouses of neighboring Royals? No, I think it can bring an exciting new art all organizations to renew life and Royal houses.

 

[principessa]

Will he get tomorrow the surname Bernadotte or remains he as Westling?

 

[Cory]

Prince Daniel will be "His Royal Highness" or not?

 

[Skippy]

Prince Daniel will be "His Royal Highness" or not?

Yes, he became "His Royal Highness" yesterday.

 

[Cory]

Do you have a link to a royal decree giving the right to be "HRH" to prince Daniel?

 

[kirillovec]

Herr Daniel Westling blir Prins av Sverige
Vid Kronprinsessbröllopet den 19 juni 2010 kommer Kungen att förordna att Herr Daniel Westling förlänas en prinstitel.
Efter vigseln kommer Herr Daniel Westling att vara Prins av Sverige och medlem av det Kungliga Huset, det vill säga Kunglig Höghet. Han tituleras därefter H.K.H. Prins Daniel. I samband med vigseln blir han också Hertig av Västergötland, eftersom H.K.H Kronprinsessan Victoria är Hertiginna av Västergötland

Herr Daniel Westling blir Prins av Sverige - Sveriges Kungahus [NS4 version]

 

[Catharina]

I'm a bit puzzled... Yesterday on the Swedish Royal Court's homepage on Prince Daniel's biography he was referred to as 'Prince Daniel Olof', today the page has changed and he is referred to as 'Olof Daniel, Prince of Sweden, Duke of Västergötland' on the English page (it says H.R.H. Prince Daniel elsewhere on the page) and as 'Olof Daniel Westling Bernadotte, Prins av Sverige, Hertig av Västergötland' on the Swedish page...

I thought he was supposed to have no last name from now on, so how come he now has two? And yesterday he was called Daniel Olof, now Olof Daniel. I am aware of the same convention as is used in Finland where you can choose the name you are to be called officially regardless of the order your names are listed in the official papers but still... At least in Finland the official order of the names doesn't change if you choose to be called on your second name for example unless you change your name permanently. So which is it, Daniel Olof or Olof Daniel? Could he be called 'Prince Olof Daniel' officially? Also, is it significant whether he is called 'Prince Daniel of Sweden' or 'Daniel, Prince of Sweden'?