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Old 08-09-2010, 06:56 AM
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Well in the UK, there has been talk of Camilla being the Princess Consort when Charles becomes King.

I would imagine in some cases he would, and in others he wouldn't.
Such as in the UK sometimes Princess Anne ranks higher than Camilla or Sophie because she is the natural daughter of the Queen, in others she ranks lower because she is a female, and Sophie and Camilla are spouses of male children.

If that makes any sense?
Camilla ranks higher than Anne, she is the Princess of Wales, wife of the heir to the throne. When Charles becomes King, Camilla will become Queen, thats the constitution.
It her her business though how she wants to be known. Even though technically she is the PoW she decided to be known as DoC. Maybe one day she is technically Queen but decides to be known as Princess consort.
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Old 08-09-2010, 07:01 AM
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That's true but 'King' is automatically associated with the head of state by a majority of people and thereby as outranking the Queen. A possible solution would be Prince/Princess Consort for the spouse of the monarch but I don't know if that would catch on.
Just like a son has been automatically associated with being heir apparent. Things change. Wouldn't it be weird if Daniel is left as prince consort during Victoria's reign and then their hypothetical daughter-in-law becomes queen upon their hypothetical son's accession as king?
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Old 08-09-2010, 07:14 AM
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Just like a son has been automatically associated with being heir apparent. Things change. Wouldn't it be weird if Daniel is left as prince consort during Victoria's reign and then their hypothetical daughter-in-law becomes queen upon their hypothetical son's accession as king?
Yes it would! Well, I guess changing times bring a degree of awkwardness. Maybe there wouldn't be so much of a problem with a King Consort in the next generation? It may be even stranger if their hypothetical daughter's husband becomes King.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:47 AM
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Same thoughts here. I don't think Victoria will let him walk 3 steps behind her, at the most only 1. Once he goes with the flow I believe she is more than happy to give him the space he deserves.
When i am out shopping with my mom i am perfectly happy with walking 3 steps behind her. That way i know what stores she thinks are best for our purpose. I dont think Daniel cares if he have to walk 3 steps behind his love, he will have a better wiew of her then after all
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:52 AM
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Just a random question, shouldn't be Daniel referred to as HRH Prince Daniel?
I was reading SRF calendar on this board where he is referred to simply as Prince Daniel, but on the website of SRF he's referred to as HRH Prince Daniel, so which one is correct?
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:00 AM
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Just a random question, shouldn't be Daniel referred to as HRH Prince Daniel?
I was reading SRF calendar on this board where he is referred to simply as Prince Daniel, but on the website of SRF he's referred to as HRH Prince Daniel, so which one is correct?
Daniel's style and title in full: His Royal Highness Prince Daniel of Sweden, Duke of Västergötland.
It's probably easier to call him Prince Daniel.
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:00 AM
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Daniel's style and title in full: His Royal Highness Prince Daniel of Sweden, Duke of Västergötland.
It's probably easier to call him Prince Daniel.
Thank you, that's what I though!
It just caugh my eye, since both Madeleine & CP were referred to as HRH, but Daniel not.
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:38 AM
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In the forum calender, Daniel is referred to as HRH - just in conjunction with Victoria as 'TRH':

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Old 08-22-2010, 01:05 PM
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Daniel will continue his "prince school" - the induction programme in the mid September.
His mentor Jan Warren said that anybody can see that Daniel thrives in his new role, you can see it from his good mood.
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I think it is excellent that Daniel is publically given credit for approaching his princely duties in a professional way. I also applaud the fact that his mentor is given credit for the continuing transformation as well.
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Old 08-22-2010, 02:00 PM
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Only the inner circle really know Daniel. As a Prince without a military background, he urgently needs to obtain a major charitable purpose - he needs a very big role in a very important good cause to give him a role in life.
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Daniel's Title

I had questions about Daniel's Duke of Vastergotland title. I believe that he does not hold the title in his own right he just has it because he is Victoria's husband right? Thus, say if Victoria and Daniel were to divorce and he to remarry his new wife would not be the Duchess of Vastergotland?

What happens in the case Victoria dies before she accedes the throne? As her widower would he still be styled HRH The Duke of Vastergotland? In this situation could a new wife become HRH The Duchess of Vastergotland?

What happens when if Victoria becomes Queen and he is not granted any other titles? Since The Duchess of Vastergotland title no longer exsists will he simply be Prince Daniel
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I had questions about Daniel's Duke of Vastergotland title. I believe that he does not hold the title in his own right he just has it because he is Victoria's husband right? Thus, say if Victoria and Daniel were to divorce and he to remarry his new wife would not be the Duchess of Vastergotland?

What happens in the case Victoria dies before she accedes the throne? As her widower would he still be styled HRH The Duke of Vastergotland? In this situation could a new wife become HRH The Duchess of Vastergotland?

What happens when if Victoria becomes Queen and he is not granted any other titles? Since The Duchess of Vastergotland title no longer exsists will he simply be Prince Daniel
Others might be able to answer better but my belief is if they were to divorce he would forfeit the title (since she is the Duchess and he is only Duke due to their marriage) or be given something less a la Alexandera in Denmark who is now a Countess (especially were his child to be future monoarch). Though I suppose he could keep it a la Sarah, Duchess of York.....if Sarah remarries she'd lose the DoY so thus probably would Daniel....

Were Victoria to die my guess he would still keep title (again especially if they've had children) not sure about future spouses....but my guess would be no he couldn't pass it to his (new) wife and would lose it if he remarried

Once she is Queen I believe he'll remain a Duke a la Queen Elizabeth and the Duke of Endinburgh- even as Queen Victoria would still be Duchess of Vastergotland she would just use high title....

Again, these are guess based on other Royal families....not sure how Swedish Royal Family do it but good question
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I had questions about Daniel's Duke of Vastergotland title. I believe that he does not hold the title in his own right he just has it because he is Victoria's husband right? Thus, say if Victoria and Daniel were to divorce and he to remarry his new wife would not be the Duchess of Vastergotland?
Yes, he does not hold the title in his own right, but was granted to use his wife's title. If they divorce I think he'll lose it.

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What happens in the case Victoria dies before she accedes the throne? As her widower would he still be styled HRH The Duke of Vastergotland? In this situation could a new wife become HRH The Duchess of Vastergotland?
Based on the case of Bertil and Lilian, where she's still styled HRH Princess Lilian, Duchess of Halland I think it would be the same for Daniel. I don't think his new wife could use the title.

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What happens when if Victoria becomes Queen and he is not granted any other titles? Since The Duchess of Vastergotland title no longer exsists will he simply be Prince Daniel
No, he'll still be HRH Prince Daniel, Duke of Västergötland, nothing changes for him, if he's not given any more titles.
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HRHofNothing- The Duchess of Vastergotland title stil exists it has only merged with the crown. In a way, Victoria would stillbe the Duchess of Vastergotland, but since she will be the Queen, it outranks any other titles.
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A recent Divorce example is the Infanta Elena of Spain,Duchess of Lugo,the Dukedom was granted in Elena for life.

Her husband Don Jaime de Marichalar was styled His Excellency The Duke of Lugo during their marriage.When they divorced in 2009 Jaime de Marichalar was no longer permitted to use his former wife's ducal title, and the styles Grandee of Spain and Excellency and he is no longer considered to be an official member of the Spanish Royal Family.

As the son of a Spanish Count he is still styled Don Jaime de Marichalar .
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Perfectly said MRSJ.
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Is he a prince???

I was talking in another thread about the Duchess of Cambridge who is not a Princess she is HRH, Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge so is Daniel HRH, Daniel, Duke of V. or is he HRH, Prince Daniel, Duke of V. I know it is probly different in Sweden then in England but I was just interested to know. Thanks
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I was talking in another thread about the Duchess of Cambridge who is not a Princess she is HRH, Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge so is Daniel HRH, Daniel, Duke of V. or is he HRH, Prince Daniel, Duke of V. I know it is probly different in Sweden then in England but I was just interested to know. Thanks
He is Prince Daniel Duke of V I believe. So either husband can take wides rank in Sweden or the King made him a prince....I thought on the official website he is listed as Prince Daniel bur maybe I'm wrong....
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I was talking in another thread about the Duchess of Cambridge who is not a Princess she is HRH, Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge so is Daniel HRH, Daniel, Duke of V. or is he HRH, Prince Daniel, Duke of V. I know it is probly different in Sweden then in England but I was just interested to know. Thanks
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