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Old 07-06-2005, 09:31 AM
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I can agree with you about people 'cheating' within their own company (sometimes). Even though what Daniel and Benny are doing is fraud and it's highly illegal, there are companies/organisations that have done much, much worse (e.g., Tyco). I think everyone does something to get in 'trouble' with the tax department at some stage; sometimes it's a genuine mistake and other times it's not. Tax and anything related to business, in my opinion, is impossible to understand, so if you can, you have my utmost admiration. :) Tax to me is like cricket; you can tell me a thousand times the ins and outs of it and I still won't get it.

Cissan, I love your avatar. It brings back memories.
Thanks! I love it too.

Regarding tax, I work as a tax lawyer in Sweden and help companies to pay as little tax as possible every day (with legal means of course ). What I have learnt is that the Tax Authority's opinion on which costs are deductible and which is not can be questioned in many many cases. Especially since Sweden joined the EC we have noticed that the Swedish tax authority doesn't really "keep up" with the rest of the EC but instead maintains their very strict rules.

Because of my work, I have a very negative opinion of the Swedish tax authority and therefore I'm not prepared to say that Daniel is the bad guy here.
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Old 07-06-2005, 03:49 PM
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Thanks! I love it too.

Regarding tax, I work as a tax lawyer in Sweden and help companies to pay as little tax as possible every day (with legal means of course ). What I have learnt is that the Tax Authority's opinion on which costs are deductible and which is not can be questioned in many many cases. Especially since Sweden joined the EC we have noticed that the Swedish tax authority doesn't really "keep up" with the rest of the EC but instead maintains their very strict rules.

Because of my work, I have a very negative opinion of the Swedish tax authority and therefore I'm not prepared to say that Daniel is the bad guy here.
You must be highly sought after then. Wow, that would be such an interesting job (I'm being serious). I think every company wants to pay as little as possible. :) I also think that everyone has a negative view of any tax authority. It's certainly not very reliable in Australia as well. I guess I shouldn’t have judged Daniel. I don’t know the Swedish tax system and I don’t know how to run a business.
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Old 07-06-2005, 03:58 PM
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Thanks! I love it too.

Regarding tax, I work as a tax lawyer in Sweden and help companies to pay as little tax as possible every day (with legal means of course ). What I have learnt is that the Tax Authority's opinion on which costs are deductible and which is not can be questioned in many many cases. Especially since Sweden joined the EC we have noticed that the Swedish tax authority doesn't really "keep up" with the rest of the EC but instead maintains their very strict rules.

Because of my work, I have a very negative opinion of the Swedish tax authority and therefore I'm not prepared to say that Daniel is the bad guy here.
So you work on the evil side Well, some would say, that tax authorities are on the evil side. But one canīt deny, that your tax system is one main reason for the wealth of ALL people in Sweden.
But since you are an expert, you can maybe tell us, if businesses (corporations) get through with private holidays or private moves. I know, that you donīt know the details, but maybe you can say, how this is handled usually.
And maybe you can say, if Master Training has now just to remargin the writing-offs, which werenīt accepted...or do they also have to pay some kind of penalty?
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My first post on a roylal board and I never thought it would be in relation to income taxes. Most countries corporate/business income tax laws are more grey than black and/or white. If someone with a multi-million kronors company only gets hit with 90,000 after an audit they have been very conservative in their tax filings. Daniel and his partner's decision not to fight the extra tax is most likely the result of estimting the cost of such fight versus the cost of paying the extra tax. For the government this is just free money.
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:22 PM
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Anyway I am not sure but I do not see why it should be the Gymns problem if Mr. Westling moved flat.
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Old 07-06-2005, 05:24 PM
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My first post on a roylal board and I never thought it would be in relation to income taxes. Most countries corporate/business income tax laws are more grey than black and/or white. If someone with a multi-million kronors company only gets hit with 90,000 after an audit they have been very conservative in their tax filings. Daniel and his partner's decision not to fight the extra tax is most likely the result of estimting the cost of such fight versus the cost of paying the extra tax. For the government this is just free money.
Well normally the one who looses the law suit has to pay the expenses of the other party too. So this is not a good reason. The only reason could be he thinks its wasting time!
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Old 07-07-2005, 04:35 AM
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So you work on the evil side Well, some would say, that tax authorities are on the evil side. But one canīt deny, that your tax system is one main reason for the wealth of ALL people in Sweden.
But since you are an expert, you can maybe tell us, if businesses (corporations) get through with private holidays or private moves. I know, that you donīt know the details, but maybe you can say, how this is handled usually.
And maybe you can say, if Master Training has now just to remargin the writing-offs, which werenīt accepted...or do they also have to pay some kind of penalty?
LOL Yes, I guess I do. I just want to say that my main area of expertise is VAT so please do not take my answers too serious.





I'm sure that more people than me denies that ALL people are wealthy in Sweden





Well, about Master Training. Some of the expenses, like the move and the trip to Majorca, are undoubtedly private expenses unless they had a conference at Majorca or something but it does not seem that way. However, other expenses were expensive gifts to important clients and I think that definitely can be classed as a business expense. However, we have rules about how expensive gifts you can give clients. If you exceed the limits set out in those rules, the gifts can be classed as bribes.



Master Training has to pay a penalty that is 40 percent of the amount that has been "cheated" from the tax authority. (And of course pay the tax they had to pay to start with).





But this is very difficult and it is very subjective if an expense should be considered as made for the business or as a private expense.
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:50 AM
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http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?I...c38744f5c87eb6

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Old 07-07-2005, 10:51 AM
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Old 07-06-2006, 08:24 AM
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The customers abandon Daniels Gym

Daniel is today head of two big gymes in Stockholm, he owns 70% of Master Training and is head of the new gym Balance with Axa. But the business is not going as good as it used to. TV4 can reveal he has big problems with his business, after he bough out his companyon Benny Lennnartson many of the customers has abandoned the gym

- when Benny left and Daniel decided to go in to business instead of beeing a personal trainer many got tired, instead many has moved to Benny Lennartssons gym in Stockholm city

- When Master Training started the essences was good service and the great contact between the customer and the staff, today I know many thinks the gym has changed into daniels Golden-cow (money makeing machine)

But Master training is not daniels only trouble, the attmpt to fill Balance 2500 square meter on short time has failed. That despite the face that Westling has tried to promote the gym to Café Operas VIP customers and giving intervew in Svensk Damtidning**

- Its not enough to work hard and be victorias boyfirend, the business idea must be solid as well and as of now it is not good enough
My translation from http://tv4.se/kandis/474924.html

**Very strange to choose Svensk Damtidning to promote a gym, they are a ladies and gossip magazine, who write about royals and celebreties in Sweden and abroad, and their demographic seems to me to be hahum...older women. BTW has someone read this interveiw?
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Old 07-06-2006, 12:53 PM
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Strange Daniel missed to forbid Benny to found a new gymn in Stockholm for an certain amount of time? Wouldn`t that be common when you buy a company that the ex owner is forbidden to found a new company on the same market for a cetain amount of time? Seems as Daniel had just avarage lawyers imho or is hat forbdden in Sweden? Maybe he should have consulted Jonas :)
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:57 AM
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Star attraction for Daniel's gym...

Expressen's sports section today writes that Sweden's own superstar hockey player Peter "Foppa" Forsberg is planning to set up camp at Daniel Westling's new gym Balance with Axa in a little over one week's time.

After having spent the last few weeks in the USA, doing business and exercising, Forsberg wants to return to Sweden again to enjoy the end of the Swedish summer. Last Monday he got a clear signal from the Philadelphia Flyers leadership to fly in the team's first physical trainer, Jim McCrossin, and family to Stockholm.

- I know Daniel since many years back, so it will be perfect.

- Jim lands in Sweden on 14 August and a day later we'll start our own camp on Daniel Westling's new gym Balance in Stockholm.

So it turns out that Daniel is friends with one of Sweden's national sports heroes, interesting news to me. Expressen mentions that Crown Princess Victoria and Daniel Westling have had dinner with him after they've visited NHL games.

Maybe this can help out Daniel's business crisis at least a little bit.


http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=649723
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Old 08-06-2006, 12:20 PM
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Star attraction for Daniel's gym...

Expressen's sports section today writes that Sweden's own superstar hockey player Peter "Foppa" Forsberg is planning to set up camp at Daniel Westling's new gym Balance with Axa in a little over one week's time.

After having spent the last few weeks in the USA, doing business and exercising, Forsberg wants to return to Sweden again to enjoy the end of the Swedish summer. Last Monday he got a clear signal from the Philadelphia Flyers leadership to fly in the team's first physical trainer, Jim McCrossin, and family to Stockholm.

- I know Daniel since many years back, so it will be perfect.

- Jim lands in Sweden on 14 August and a day later we'll start our own camp on Daniel Westling's new gym Balance in Stockholm.

So it turns out that Daniel is friends with one of Sweden's national sports heroes, interesting news to me. Expressen mentions that Crown Princess Victoria and Daniel Westling have had dinner with him after they've visited NHL games.

Maybe this can help out Daniel's business crisis at least a little bit.


http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=649723
I remember a quote from Foppa, where he said, that it is so embarrassing to fail in a game, where the crown princess is watcher. Is this his way to make up for some bad games, where Victoria was in the audience :P
I guess he knows Daniel from the many visits in stadiums, Victoria and Daniel did in the beginning of their relationship...oh well...nice what a sessan can do for you and your business
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:17 AM
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I have read that Daniels gym has launched a website. Does anyone have the URL of that page?
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:40 AM
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I have read that Daniels gym has launched a website. Does anyone have the URL of that page?
unfortunately, for us, its a members-only site
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:11 AM
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Well, there is still the page of the new and public gym: Balance IMO not an very interesting page.
And thatīs he page, you need a login for:
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Iīve found an interesting entry in a blog. Hard to say, how much is true. At least it doesnīt sound, as if this person would want to run him down (out of jealousy etc.)
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When I was 7, Iīve shot a pea at Daniels left cheek. This wasnīt my intention, but he hated me in all the years after this.
As revenge that day, he hit me with a hockey club in Pers forest.
Me didnīt hate him and Iīm not hating him these days, but it does feel a little strange to see him as Crown princess Victorias boyfriend in every newspaper of the country. The boy with the snub nose, extremely sharp canine teeth and the nasal little whiny voice, who refused to leave me alone in all the years. That Daniel Westling, who never stopped to torment me until he left the town. But this is forgiven now. We have been children and we are adults today. Human beings tend to change.
At Christmas day, home coming day, when all the ppl living in Ockelbo gather in a bar to (under the influence of alcohol) judge hypocriticially each others development, Iīve sometimes seen Westling, surrounded by old ass-kisser buddies from our area. They give ever up. I think nearly all work as personal trainers at Daniels various gyms these days. They have created an own Ockelbo in the big crowd of the capital city.
The funny thing is, that no matter how much they liked to expose me to all kind of crap when we we were little, Iīm part of the "gang" everytime, when it is home coming day. They come and ask me to forgive. One of them cried and said, that all, what he did wasnīt on purpose. He couldnīt stop to hit the Boulé ball at my neck, when we played "bollen i burken" at the nursery in the opposite of my parents home. "Marre, you know, that you are one of us. All can be like before! We can meet in Sholm and can do something nice together? Call and pick me up in front of the gym!" But thatīs just the thing, I donīt want...that all would be as before...and the king of this circus is looking most of all at me with silent bleary calculating eyes and Iīm sometimes wondering, if he does remember these annoying years with him as my bully and me as his victim. We never talk about this...we are just standing there in silence and look at each other, nodding full of understanding and he is squirming everytime the old times become a topic-and they always do-when is home coming day.
I know, that he does remember. He knows about this time and what he did. Our friends also remember, what happened. They donīt forget. But this is nothing we are talking about, because these were painful years, that all want to forget. Because thatīs, how it is done in Ockelbo. A community with a population of 2500 with all knowing each other. One is sweeping all things, that donīt look great in daylight, under the carpet...but one does remember. There is enough one is remembering with pain and horror.
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as far as i an see he has taken his logo offline
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er, is this Swedish humor? I really dont get it.
well hes making fun of Daniels misfortune with hisy gymns
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It is only March this week so there could be an engagment by April with a wedding around July/August time. If not I think a spring or summer 2008 wedding.
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I doubt they would have announced an engagement before King Harald's Birthday celebrations so I am hopeful that means a spring announcement.
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