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06-30-2005, 12:39 PM
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 )What would the serious message be? That heīs a business man? IMO the harder he tries, the more ridiculous it seems. He can only lose in that game (for the case he wants to become a prince, for the case not, he has an filled bank account). When he started with the gym and when Madeleine (and later Victoria) joined it, Daniel wasnīt directly on the "mount olympus" of Swedish gym owners. So all efforts he does now to convince us, that heīs a business man, let us think of his connection to Victoria. When he would try to seem more like a modest trainer, ppl would say, that heīs *just* a trainer. So IMO the best would be to come to an end. To marry her. And then ppl at the court could really work with his reputation and could use this magic wand, that the neighbours in Norway have used for Mette Marit (hopefully this wand is able to spirit these nerdy black glasses away  )Last edited by Lena; 06-30-2005 at 04:51 PM. 
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06-30-2005, 08:46 PM
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06-30-2005, 08:56 PM
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 But must it be then not real love...can a couple get any closer than through sharing glasses (hm, at once Iīve to think of D&V Beckham, who also shared underwear :p )?!Well, I think they have both their own pair of glasses (maybe made out of the same plastic). And maybe one of our many Americans on the board could spot now a couple with Osbourne-like glasses , walking hand in hand, when they would look out of the window
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06-30-2005, 09:08 PM
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07-05-2005, 02:00 AM
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Daniel having tax problems
Today I couldnīt sleep anymore since 4am...and while eating breakfast, I came across a headline on Daniel...and that at 7:30 am...so it must be big news. Well, maybe they are exaggerating. Itīs hard to say, because Iīve no clue of taxes. Taxes is the keyword. It seems Danne is a tax dodger. Daniel and his partner Benny should have set off private spendings against tax liability. E.g. when Daniel moved to Östermalm, he has used Master Training to pay a bill of 6480 SEK. His explanation is, that he had much to do for Master Training in this time, and would have lost time (which let me guess, that the 6480 SEK were for a company, which works with removal)
Benny travelled with his girlfriend to Mallorca and has accounted this as business tour. Further a new years party was accounted via Master Training. And Daniel and Benny have made presents to customers (fashion from exclusive labels, equipment for golf and skiing) Daniel has emailed Expressen and has said, that itīs not unusal, that businesses and tax authorities argue differently. He also said, that he wonīt file a protest to the tax authorities. As I get it Daniel has to pay in the future 90000 SEK more of taxes and penalty. http://www.expressen.se/index.jsp?a=311183 http://www.expressen.se/expressen/js...y.jsp?a=311185 Lenaīs snappish comment of the day: Here one has thought to get through with everything. And as soon as the "goldmine" Master Training is threatened, "one" talks to the "enemy" Expressen Last edited by Lena; 07-05-2005 at 02:09 AM.
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07-05-2005, 02:15 AM
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Ooh, this is big news. Tax evasion is a big issue and Daniel and his partner Benny are bad people. :) Well, I am confused with tax issues so maybe I'm interpreting this the wrong way. Don't they have accountants to do this sort of thing correctly? It seems as if lots of criminals travel down to Mallorca (Mr. Skase was one such figure - is Majorca the same place just with a slightly different name?). Anyway, writing off an obvious holiday in the sun is wrong. This isn't going to be good news for Daniel.
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07-05-2005, 02:29 AM
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They surely have accountants, but one should mean, they talk with them about such things and should be at least smart enough to look a bit through the system. I guess the accountants have talked to them and have said, that they could get through with it. And I guess then greediness won over reason. This wouldnīt be a problem for the gym businesses, which donīt manage it to get a positive report in Dagens Industri , but a guy like Daniel should try to avoid all possible traps...otherwise he can be sure to be bashed in the media...especially in glassy Sweden, which is neither like Monaco nor like the Cayman islands.For me this is again a sign, that he hasnīt understood completely, what it means to be a prince. Ok the king also had troubles with traffic laws...but this is IMO a bit stronger AND additionally Daniel also had problems with traffic laws. Further the king doesnīt need to fight for acceptance...
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Still I think breaking traffic laws is way worse, and its not like the King just parked on the wrong spot, King or personal trainer (sorry VD ), you put other peoples life in danger, wich you dont do with tax questions, but it does but some questions on your judgemnet and moral (or the moral of you accountant)
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07-05-2005, 05:31 AM
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I should stop kidding around. Victoria hasnīt deserved such a guy. And I hope this was the last time, that we have heard about Daniel and the law...or even Daniel and Master Training.  BTW I wonder, how the tax authorities really treat Daniel and this case...was this more some kind of "ops, Mr Westling it seems you have forgotten something...please correct that" or was this a case for the police. I guess it would become one, when he wouldnīt pay at once and when he wouldnīt have a good lawyer (???)
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07-05-2005, 05:44 AM
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I would though say, that it takes a bit more "furtiveness" to betray the state, than to press harder at the throttle on the motorway (as much as I know, the king and Daniel "just" drove too fast on the motorway). But you are of course right...when an accident with other ppl involved would happen, than this would be much worse, than a pile of files and some missing money for the state...When you mention the accountant...wouldnīt they go through all the bills together? How should the accountant know, that Benny was in Majorca, where Daniel celebrated New year and that Daniel moved (and what it costed) 
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07-05-2005, 08:09 AM
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If Daniel is really in trouble with taxes, then this is a bad thing - also for Victoria in a way, because she's next to Daniel. I always wondered why they hadn't married yet, but well... maybe Victoria is frightened of getting in really trouble then and don't wish to marry him soon? It is not the best image for a future queen to have a boyfriend who is in conflict with law...
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07-05-2005, 08:42 AM
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If this is true, then it could not speak very well for Victoria. Regardless of the fact that she didn't do anything wrong, her boyfriend did. Maybe she should distance herself for a while.
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07-05-2005, 09:16 AM
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Has this tax evasion story been picked up or confirmed by other news sources? Does it seem to be a very big deal in Sweden?
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I think that for Victoria to distance herself might send a wrong message: That when things get tough for people she cares about in her life, she flees rather than stand by them and support them. And as we are talking about someone who has been in Victoria's life for the past three years, not just a mere three weeks, support is much more needed in this case. It might also set a standard of precedence: If Victoria's other friends get in trouble with the law will Victoria also flee? (Remember when the tsunami hit and rather than come immediately home from her holidays she carried on? It seems that Victoria has for me certainly, left a bad taste about when bad things happen, she ducks and hides rather than faces the music and lead as a future Queen should and must.) And it would look particularly bad for Victoria if these allegations of tax evasion turned out to be false and she had distanced herself from Daniel -- it would mean that she never trusted him at all. I am a big believer in standing by people in your life and being loyal to them, especially when times are tough (as no doubt such a situation must be for Daniel). My friends and I have been friends for more than 21 years and as one of my friends puts it, I would have to murder someone in cold blood in front of her without a sign of remorse before she would give up on me or our friendship. Last edited by Alexandria; 07-05-2005 at 09:22 AM.
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07-05-2005, 09:18 AM
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Oh Daniel is prosecuted by the IRS? Thats surely a no reason for a Prime minister if he gets a criminal record for that! And of course for the state treasurer. Well chances for Dennism
?Hey was this a New Years Party with Victoria? So she is business expenses? sounds interesting... Maybe Vicky was informed in advance by the states secret service and she stated this split up thing for protection....  Last edited by mixer2002de; 07-05-2005 at 09:28 AM.
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07-05-2005, 12:26 PM
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As I get it, itīs not a question, if this happened or not, but how the tax authorities will deal with it. Expressen is a trashy tabloid, no doubt, but one can be sure, that stories about tax evasion, misrepresentations in the tax return etc. are true. Such things are simply to easy to find out. And as Iīve explained once before, statements of persons, mentioned with their names are true as well. So one can be pretty sure, that Daniel has sent Expressen an Email. Further DN a newspaper with a better reputation had the story as well.
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.j...usRenderType=6 Now it really depends on the tax authorities, his advisors, his acountant(s) and his lawyers, how and if he gets away with this. My guess is, that he will get away with back pay and some sort of penalty. But I donīt think, that this would mean any further legal problem (criminal conviction etc.) I also donīt think, that this would be a reason for the government to dismiss him as prince consort. This also wonīt ruin Master Training. The whole story is just bad for his reputation-very bad. I agree with Alexandria, she should go on to support him. But for the case she already had doubts (and sees some sort of potential in Daniel to do such things again), (in her position) I would take this as chance to make a "final stroke" Last edited by Lena; 07-05-2005 at 01:06 PM.
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